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footballrun21

ive been wondering for a while, what is the proper/good way to blouse your BDU pants over your boots???
C/2d Lt. Stephen Pettit, CAP
New Jersey Wing

Cmdbuddy



Steps:

1.) Buy some of those.

2.) Put on your socks (which should be just about as tall as your boots)

3.) Step into your pants, but don't pull them up.

4.) Reach from the INSIDE and grab the buttom of your pants leg.  Pull it up to right above your sock.

5.) Strap that elastic band around it.

6.) Pull up your pants normally.  If you did it right, your pants should be bloused to the top of your sock.

7.) Put on your boots. 
Christie Ducote, Capt, CAP

MIKE

Get some of these:



Place them between the first and second eyelets of your boots (toward the top), roll your trousers a few times and tuck them up neatly under these blousing cords.

Link.
Mike Johnston

footballrun21

C/2d Lt. Stephen Pettit, CAP
New Jersey Wing

Pace

When I want a professional bloused look, I use these:


However, I put them on a little differently.
1. Put on your pants.
2. Put on your socks and boots.  Tie your boot laces.
3. Now fold the bottom of the pants legs inside your pants.  The bottom of your pants (the fold) should now hang about even with the knot of your boot laces.
4. Take your pants back down, but inside out.
5. Find the fold (was the bottom of your pants until you turned them inside out) that was even with the knot.
6. Move that fold to where your pants will be above the boot when you pull them back up.
7. With the fold in place above the boot, keep it in place with the velcro blousers. NOTE: Only velcro blousing bands work for this method.
8. Pull your pants back up, and you're good to go.

NOTE: If you don't initially use the knot of your laces to measure where to make the fold, your pants will either be too baggy or they'll be so tight that when you sit down they will move up leaving a 1"-2" gap between your pants and the top of your boots.


Whenever I'm not interested in a super sharp look (in the field/on a mission), I tuck my pants into my boots for numerous reasons.
Lt Col, CAP

Major_Chuck

I hate these.  They cut the circulation off and are uncomfortable after several hours of wear.

-CC

Quote from: MIKE on August 22, 2005, 02:47:42 AM
Get some of these:



Place them between the first and second eyelets of your boots (toward the top), roll your trousers a few times and tuck them up neatly under these blousing cords.

Link.
Chuck Cranford
SGT, TNCO VA OCS
Virginia Army National Guard

Pylon

Quote from: Major_Chuck on August 23, 2005, 03:11:40 AM
I hate these.  They cut the circulation off and are uncomfortable after several hours of wear.

-CC

Quote from: MIKE on August 22, 2005, 02:47:42 AM
Get some of these:



Place them between the first and second eyelets of your boots (toward the top), roll your trousers a few times and tuck them up neatly under these blousing cords.

Link.

I agree with the good Major.  Maybe I just have cankles or something, but they definitely hurt after wearing them for any decent period of time, and feel like they're cutting off blood flow to my feet.  (Disclaimer, Warning!  Do not wear if diabetic!  ::):P
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

MIKE

Quote from: Major_Chuck on August 23, 2005, 03:11:40 AM
I hate these.  They cut the circulation off and are uncomfortable after several hours of wear.

-CC

Quote from: MIKE on August 22, 2005, 02:47:42 AM
Get some of these:



Place them between the first and second eyelets of your boots (toward the top), roll your trousers a few times and tuck them up neatly under these blousing cords.

Link.

The work fine for me provided they stay on the boot and don't ride up onto my leg... That is when they can start to get uncomfortable.  I blouse my trousers seated, so they are a little looser and don't ride up as much... Have to adjust them occasionally though.

I used to use the blousing bands (Have used two different styles.) when I wore side-zip jump boots which were near impossible to blouse over the boots, so I didn't and bloused them at the boot tops... Now I wear Infantry Combat Boots which can easily be bloused properly with blousing cords, so I've gone back to using them again... Got a deal on a bulk pack from www.sportsmansguide.com
Mike Johnston

Westernslope

I have used both types of bands but using my laces has been the easiest for me. 

After putting on my pants and boots, I wrap the boot laces around the top of the boots and tie them in the front. Then I pull the bottom of the pants over the band created by the laces and tuck it in.  Of course, you need long laces for this but I never have to search for my blousing bands/cords.

shorning

I've used both, but I think these make it look better:



Just depends of your objectives.

Greg

I got experimental and tried something new for encampment this year, and it worked out great.  Much, much easier to do and the pants stayed down really well.

I slipped some elastic through the slits on the bottom of each leg of the trousers, then got a clip thingy and stuck it on there and tied it off:



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C/Maj Greg(ory) Boyajian, CAP
Air Victory Museum Composite Squadron

Pylon

Quote from: Greg on August 26, 2005, 11:21:53 AM
I got experimental and tried something new for encampment this year, and it worked out great.  Much, much easier to do and the pants stayed down really well.

I slipped some elastic through the slits on the bottom of each leg of the trousers, then got a clip thingy and stuck it on there and tied it off:



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Now that's a pretty interesting and intuitive idea! 
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

Buzz

Quote from: Major_Chuck on August 23, 2005, 03:11:40 AM
I hate these.  They cut the circulation off and are uncomfortable after several hours of wear.

-CC

Quote from: MIKE on August 22, 2005, 02:47:42 AM
Get some of these:



Place them between the first and second eyelets of your boots (toward the top), roll your trousers a few times and tuck them up neatly under these blousing cords.

Link.

If they are cutting off your circulation, your trousers are too short -- you need to add 2 - 4 inches of inseam length.  If you can wear the trousers with regular shoes, then they are short enough that they will pull up when you sit down.

Blousing bands are to be worn AROUND THE BOOT, not around your leg.

With the newer, cushioned.top boots, the narrow blousing bands hook just under the bulge where the padding is (and under the lace tie).



afgeo4

Hey Buzz...

Although it is much sharper looking, utilitarian, and more comfortable to blouse your pants over your boots, it is NOT how you wear them properly.

The proper wear is to use blousing straps around your leg, just on top of the boot.  Want to argue?  I'll send you the e-mail address of my former MTI (military training instructor) at Lackland AFB, TX.  You can argue with him cause I sure won't.

The blousing bands (wide and narrow versions) are made for blousing your pants inside your boots, Army style although I too have used them to blouse on top of my boots (it is my parade blousing method) just the way others have described it.
GEORGE LURYE

Mac

#14
Quote from: afgeo4 on December 15, 2005, 04:33:21 AM
Hey Buzz...

Although it is much sharper looking, utilitarian, and more comfortable to blouse your pants over your boots, it is NOT how you wear them properly.

The proper wear is to use blousing straps around your leg, just on top of the boot.  Want to argue?  I'll send you the e-mail address of my former MTI (military training instructor) at Lackland AFB, TX.  You can argue with him cause I sure won't.

The blousing bands (wide and narrow versions) are made for blousing your pants inside your boots, Army style although I too have used them to blouse on top of my boots (it is my parade blousing method) just the way others have described it.

I hate to break it to you, but your MTI was mistaken!

Quote from: AFI 36-2903 Table 2.2 item 2BDU trousers: Cotton and nylon twill or Rip stop cotton with button front closure, strap ankle adjustment, and six pockets. Blouse trousers over combat boots. Material of shirt and trousers must match.

And CAPM 39-1 says the exact same thing.

Quote from: CAPM 39-1 Table 2-3 Item 2Trousers: Cotton and nylon twill or rip stop cotton camouflage pattern (woodland green) with button front closure, strap ankle adjustment, and six pockets. Blouse trousers over combat boots. Material of shirt and
trousers must match.
Derk MacPherson, Lt Col, CAP
Vice Commander
Alaska Wing, PCR-AK-001

Five-seveN

lol, outch! so much for the MIT, actly i cant find any CAP manual that says we hafta' bouse out pants over boots, but im still lookin.

happy hunting

Five-seveN

Ooops just found it, CAPM 39-1

Eclipse

We actually issue blousing bands to all attendees at Spring encampment because about 1/2 the cadets show up incorrect - many of them w/ trousers just tucked into
their boots, which is both incorrect and uncomfortable in the field.

I wear side-zip jump boots with a snap-over on the side (ate my feet like a grinder wearing them in, now I love them) - I wear them as above w/ the wide velcro blousers
pulled down over the snap, which once done holds it all in place and looks correct.

I love the pics at CS that show cadets blousing their blues - and a senior showed up at an open house last year w/ his gray pants bloused!

"That Others May Zoom"

shorning

Quote from: Nukem on December 15, 2005, 02:06:05 PM
I hate to break it to you, but your MTI was mistaken!

Maybe, and maybe not.  As one TI put it to me: "Define 'over'." 

Certainly "above" can be "over", but so can "on top of".  In fact I see it both ways in the Rea Air ForceTM.  I've also seen the Army do both.  I know the Marine blouse "on top of" the boots.  YMMV...[/size]

afgeo4

Well, I'll spare you from MSgt Garcia for the moment and remind you that the regs you just read to us describe the BDU pant and the use of that pant's built in blousing cords (those dangling thingies attached to the bottom of your pant that always get in the way).  It is not, I repeat NOT, guidance on how to blouse your pant using blousing straps.   In fact, there is no formal guidance.

It is well known that if you don't want critters in your boots, you will blouse the pant inside your boot and tie the boot real tight to close the gap between the boot and the pant.  You cannot get such tightness using a blousing band or strap.  If you want to keep sand out of your boots, you will blouse over your boot.  It's just what makes you happy and...

Although an MTI can be wrong (he is sort of human), all MTIs at Lackland cannot be wrong at the same time.  ALL trainees were blousing in this manner when I was at BMT in Sept-Oct 2001.   No matter who tells me what in CAP or even the active duty Air Force, excluding an Air Force HQ staff officer, I will believe an MTI.  Why?  Because if you've ever met one, you'd believe him too.  They are the BEST of what Air Force has.  They are the shining example of how a uniform should be worn.  How an airman should behave.   I wish more of them joined CAP.
GEORGE LURYE

c/LTCOLorbust

They also have the nice metal once at the BX, I have never tried them but, just letting ya know
1Lt. Joshua M. Bergland
Yakima Composite SQ.
WA Wing

SarDragon

Quote from: c/LTCOLorbust on December 16, 2005, 05:59:42 PM
They also have the nice metal once at the BX, I have never tried them but, just letting ya know

Only once, and not twice or thrice?   :o
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

Cam89

How long do they last? Do they get old worn out soon?
Carrisa Marinshaw
    C/Amn

MIKE

Quote from: Cam89 on December 17, 2005, 01:41:36 AM
How long do they last? Do they get old worn out soon?

They should last you a while before they get stretched out... It's always good to have a few extra pairs anyway in case you lose them... Plus you can find many other uses for them like securing ponchos to LBE... I've even known some female cadets and SMs who have used them in their hair in an emergency.

Mike Johnston

CAP428

Why not just use a rubber band?  That clippy hook thing on the blousing straps has come undone on mine before.

Pylon

Quote from: MIKE on December 17, 2005, 02:45:04 AM
Quote from: Cam89 on December 17, 2005, 01:41:36 AM
How long do they last? Do they get old worn out soon?

They should last you a while before they get stretched out... It's always good to have a few extra pairs anyway in case you lose them... Plus you can find many other uses for them like securing ponchos to LBE... I've even known some female cadets and SMs who have used them in their hair in an emergency.



I've used them to hold the battery pack to the back of my Icom HT when the plastic clip broke.  They come in extremely handy and take up no space in your gear!  :)
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

Dustoff

Quote from: shorning on December 15, 2005, 06:53:00 PM
Quote from: Nukem on December 15, 2005, 02:06:05 PM
I hate to break it to you, but your MTI was mistaken!

Maybe, and maybe not.  As one TI put it to me: "Define 'over'." 

Certainly "above" can be "over", but so can "on top of".  In fact I see it both ways in the Rea Air ForceTM.  I've also seen the Army do both.  I know the Marine blouse "on top of" the boots.  YMMV...[/size]

My TI when I went through Lackland (March-May'89) was pretty emphatic that he didn't want to have ANY laces showing.  (This included low-quarters also, had to tuck the bow down in so he couldn't see it).  As a result, to this day, I still blouse below the boot laces.

By the way, have you all noticed how the "pre-shrunk" BDU's shrink?  Makes it more difficult to keep the bloused part where it belongs.  Either that or I'm getting taller........ :D

Jim
Jim

Hawk200

Quote from: c/LTCOLorbust on December 16, 2005, 05:59:42 PM
They also have the nice metal once at the BX, I have never tried them but, just letting ya know

If you're talking about the metal blousing springs that the Marines use, I would advise against those. I tried some for about two weeks. I figured I'd get used to them, but I never did. Those things hurt after a while.

ELTHunter

I've had the wide Velcro blousers for years.  I gave up on wearing them a long time ago because I didn't see the need as long as my BDU's had the little sewn in thingys.  Turns out I didn't know HOW to wear them until I read this thread.  Tried them tonight, makes a world of difference when you put them on right.  Much better than cramming the laces and the ties into your boots.

THANKS!
Maj. Tim Waddell, CAP
SER-TN-170
Deputy Commander of Cadets
Emergency Services Officer

RiverAux

As long as there are ticks in the woods, my BDU pants are going to be tucked into my boots. 

Hawk200

Quote from: RiverAux on November 18, 2006, 03:29:23 PM
As long as there are ticks in the woods, my BDU pants are going to be tucked into my boots. 

If you're worried about the ticks, wrap some 100 mph tape around the pants leg, too. Looks stupid, but it works.

RiverAux

Though I'm not afraid of looking stupid (just ask anyone who knows me), tucking the pants in has always worked well enough for me. 

In any case, when your basic uniform is camoflage you already look pretty stupid wearing a bright orange vest while walking around in the woods....

Hawk200

Quote from: RiverAux on November 18, 2006, 04:56:27 PMIn any case, when your basic uniform is camoflage you already look pretty stupid wearing a bright orange vest while walking around in the woods....

Hmm, so that's what that feeling was..... :-[

DNall

Quote from: CAP428 on November 13, 2006, 06:56:15 AM
Why not just use a rubber band?  That clippy hook thing on the blousing straps has come undone on mine before.
Again, these suck & will cut off your circulation just in the short term. They are like the $15 cheapo jungle boots that come apart instantly. Just don't do it ever. A rubber band is an even worse idea.



Whereas these bands cost about $2.50 or so & work great.

Never tried the marine metal. It looks good, but more than I'm looking for.

Quote from: RiverAux on November 18, 2006, 03:29:23 PM
As long as there are ticks in the woods, my BDU pants are going to be tucked into my boots. 
Blousing done right gives much better overlapping protection actually, which was the original point, however, do diferentiate btwn a utilitarian set of field BDUs & a squared away in-garrison set.

Hawk200

Quote from: DNall on November 18, 2006, 06:09:41 PM

Again, these suck & will cut off your circulation just in the short term. They are like the $15 cheapo jungle boots that come apart instantly. Just don't do it ever. A rubber band is an even worse idea.



You know, I keep hearing people say that, but I've been wearing those for 18 years now, and never had a problem with them.

CAP428

Well, I agree with Hawk200.  While I have had the blousing bands' hook come undone once or twice, I've used them for quite a while without much problem.  I couldn't find them today when I had to go to a CAP event, so I tried a rubber band.  I had no problem; they did not cut off my circulation.

SarDragon

#36
Quote from: Hawk200 on November 18, 2006, 08:53:22 PM
Quote from: DNall on November 18, 2006, 06:09:41 PM

Again, these suck & will cut off your circulation just in the short term. They are like the $15 cheapo jungle boots that come apart instantly. Just don't do it ever. A rubber band is an even worse idea.



You know, I keep hearing people say that, but I've been wearing those for 18 years now, and never had a problem with them.

Same here. The trick is to put them over the top of the boot, not directly around your leg, although, now that I think about it, I never had any circulation problems with  the too-short pair of pants with the bands around my leg.

YMMV.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

CadetProgramGuy

1. Take those blousing bands, the wide ones, put them on a table.
2. Put your pants on.
3. Sit down at the table, pull your pants up enough for you to sit confortably.
4. Bend over, take your pants and fold the excess to the rear of your leg, in essence, wraping your pants around your leg.  Be sure to keep the front of your pants straight though.
5. Put blousing band around pants, about 2 inches above the bottom of your pants.
6. Put on your boot.
7. Repeat for the other leg.
8. When you stand up, your pants will blouse automatically for you.

Army style......

flapsUP

Cutting off circulation....have we become a slave to high CAP fashion?

capcadet101

Quote from: CAP Safety Dude on August 23, 2005, 03:11:40 AM
I hate these.  They cut the circulation off and are uncomfortable after several hours of wear.

-CC

Quote from: MIKE on August 22, 2005, 02:47:42 AM
Get some of these:



Place them between the first and second eyelets of your boots (toward the top), roll your trousers a few times and tuck them up neatly under these blousing cords.

Link.
they dont cut off the circlation if you put them on the very top off your boot
Cadet Ryan W. DiGiuseppi
Lake St. Louis Missouri 63367
ges,set, certified

capcadet101

what i do is that i put my socks on then my pants next i put on my boots lace them up and then put the blousing cords on that way they dont cut off your circulation but you have to put them between the first and second eye holes on the top of the boot
Cadet Ryan W. DiGiuseppi
Lake St. Louis Missouri 63367
ges,set, certified

brasda91

Quote from: footballrun21 on August 22, 2005, 02:05:10 AM
ive been wondering for a while, what is the proper/good way to blouse your BDU pants over your boots???

Per 39-1  23 March 2005
Cotton and nylon twill or rip stop cotton camouflage pattern (woodland
green) with button front closure, strap ankle adjustment, and six
pockets. Blouse trousers over combat boots.

or

Trousers Dark blue, cotton, with button front closure, and six pockets. Trousers may be
bloused over combat boots. If not bloused, drawstring at the bottom of trouser
leg should be removed. Summer weight trousers are also authorized, but shirt
and trousers must match.
Wade Dillworth, Maj.
Paducah Composite Squadron
www.kywgcap.org/ky011