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Started by Archer, January 20, 2014, 01:52:07 AM

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Panache

Quote from: CyBorg on January 20, 2014, 05:58:59 AM


You owe me a new keyboard, CyBorg, to replace the one I just spit iced tea all over...

a2capt

<These aren't the uniforms you're looking to wear.>

These aren't the uniforms we're looking to wear.

<He can go on about his manual analyzing.>

You can go about your manual analyzing.

<Next thread>

Next thread... next thread.

Mustang

Except for the fact that the new CSAF wore that banded collar WWI-style jacket when he was sworn in as CSAF.
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MSG Mac

Quote from: Mustang on January 20, 2014, 07:18:13 AM
Except for the fact that the new CSAF wore that banded collar WWI-style jacket when he was sworn in as CSAF.

The outgoing officer sets the rules for the ceremony.
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flyboy53

I was impressed with how thorough the current change is and the fact that the Air Force has gone to a informal polo shirt uniform.

Although I had seen the thing about US military societies before, I wonder if this means that the Air Force, hence the CAP, now recognizes the SGAUS MEMS program and badges.

Guess that's a NHQ question.


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Eclipse

Yep. Not the one seen wearing the fancy custom workup.

"That Others May Zoom"

abdsp51

The AF suspended alot of programs to include uniform changes until things straightened out.  And they will usually incorporate changes every couple of years too. 

Shuman 14

Quote from: Archer on January 20, 2014, 01:52:07 AM
So with the new Air Force uniform manual being effected, I'm curious to see how(if at all) the changes to the USAF uniform will influence CAP's iterations of them, especially with the new 39-1 creeping in.

Some of the key changes I noted are:
-Morale patches on flight suit
-Morale shirts
-CIB and others now permitted on all combos
-Army Ranger tabs..... + all other tabs to be worn on the shoulder

http://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a1/publication/afi36-2903/afi36-2903.pdf

It is something that makes you go... Hmmm... Isn't it?
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Shuman 14

Quote from: flyboy1 on January 20, 2014, 01:18:26 PM
I was impressed with how thorough the current change is and the fact that the Air Force has gone to a informal polo shirt uniform.

Although I had seen the thing about US military societies before, I wonder if this means that the Air Force, hence the CAP, now recognizes the SGAUS MEMS program and badges.

Guess that's a NHQ question.

The Instruction seemed pretty clear to me, if you're attending a societies' (i.e. SGAUS) meeting, you can wear their awards and badges (i.e. MEMS Badge) to the meeting.

Once the meeting is over they come off.

So unless you are attending the SGAUS Annual Conference, that will most likely be the only time you will get to wear a MEMS Badge on a USAF or CAP USAF-style uniform.

Just as an FYI, I am a Life Member of SGAUS and have been awarded a Basic MEMS Badge.
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
INARNG: 1992 - 1993, 1998 - 2000      Active Army: 2003 - 2005                                       USCGAux: 2004 - Present

abdsp51

Quote from: shuman14 on January 20, 2014, 06:29:35 PM
Quote from: flyboy1 on January 20, 2014, 01:18:26 PM
I was impressed with how thorough the current change is and the fact that the Air Force has gone to a informal polo shirt uniform.

Although I had seen the thing about US military societies before, I wonder if this means that the Air Force, hence the CAP, now recognizes the SGAUS MEMS program and badges.

Guess that's a NHQ question.

The Instruction seemed pretty clear to me, if you're attending a societies' (i.e. SGAUS) meeting, you can wear their awards and badges (i.e. MEMS Badge) to the meeting.

Once the meeting is over they come off.

So unless you are attending the SGAUS Annual Conference, that will most likely be the only time you will get to wear a MEMS Badge on a USAF or CAP USAF-style uniform.

Just as an FYI, I am a Life Member of SGAUS and have been awarded a Basic MEMS Badge.

You do know this doesn't apply to CAP right?

Shuman 14

Quote from: abdsp51 on January 20, 2014, 06:43:05 PM
Quote from: shuman14 on January 20, 2014, 06:29:35 PM
Quote from: flyboy1 on January 20, 2014, 01:18:26 PM
I was impressed with how thorough the current change is and the fact that the Air Force has gone to a informal polo shirt uniform.

Although I had seen the thing about US military societies before, I wonder if this means that the Air Force, hence the CAP, now recognizes the SGAUS MEMS program and badges.

Guess that's a NHQ question.

The Instruction seemed pretty clear to me, if you're attending a societies' (i.e. SGAUS) meeting, you can wear their awards and badges (i.e. MEMS Badge) to the meeting.

Once the meeting is over they come off.

So unless you are attending the SGAUS Annual Conference, that will most likely be the only time you will get to wear a MEMS Badge on a USAF or CAP USAF-style uniform.

Just as an FYI, I am a Life Member of SGAUS and have been awarded a Basic MEMS Badge.

You do know this doesn't apply to CAP right?

I thought the whole purpose of the new "draft" CAPM 39-1 was to bring it "more in line with" the actual Air Force Instruction?  ???

That being said, did you not notice my caveat most likely be?  Notice I did not say may or can::)
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Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police

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abdsp51

Oh I read it and your insinuating CAP will follow suit.  Sorry that's bad business to wait to publish an overdue reg because ma blue has revised its own reg. 

Shuman 14

Quote from: abdsp51 on January 20, 2014, 07:24:02 PM
Oh I read it and your insinuating CAP will follow suit.  Sorry that's bad business to wait to publish an overdue reg because ma blue has revised its own reg.

Can't say I disagree with you, the draft needs to be re-written in incorporate the changes in the actual Instruction before they actually publish it.
Joseph J. Clune
Lieutenant Colonel, Military Police

USMCR: 1990 - 1992                           USAR: 1993 - 1998, 2000 - 2003, 2005 - Present     CAP: 2013 - 2014, 2021 - Present
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Eclipse

Quote from: shuman14 on January 20, 2014, 11:04:23 PMCan't say I disagree with you, the draft needs to be re-written in incorporate the changes in the actual Instruction before they actually publish it.

No, it doesn't.

There are dozens of areas where CAP uniforms are different then USAF uniforms.

39-1 was re-formatted to more closely resemble 36-2903 instructure.  That's as close as it gets.

"That Others May Zoom"

NIN

And just when we say the Air Force isn't making more changes:

http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20140120/NEWS07/301200029?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

I can see the Duffelblog article now "More than 200 Army Sergeants Major were stricken with apoplexy following the Air Force's relaxing of the rules around PT belts.  Several airmen were also knifehanded to unconsciousness before the word got out to the Army E-9s that PT belts were, in fact, no longer required for some service members in their areas. "
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Eclipse

Quote from: NIN on January 20, 2014, 11:40:40 PM
And just when we say the Air Force isn't making more changes:

http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20140120/NEWS07/301200029?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

I can see the Duffelblog article now "More than 200 Army Sergeants Major were stricken with apoplexy following the Air Force's relaxing of the rules around PT belts.  Several airmen were also knifehanded to unconsciousness before the word got out to the Army E-9s that PT belts were, in fact, no longer required for some service members in their areas. "



Is that a camo reflective belt?  Won't that rip a hole in space-time?  Also, why are they wearing them like crossing guards?

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ol'fido

The way to go would be to make the PT belt the carrying strap for a man bag or something like a Maxpedition Versipac.
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Historian, Group 1, IL-006

coudano

the cross chest is (er, was?) autho

incidentally, the af pt uniform is quite reflective all by itself (as pictured)

abdsp51

That's only for the AOR and a result of the Army griping bout AF not playing by their rules.