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Started by LadyROBOcop, September 14, 2011, 09:12:12 PM

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LadyROBOcop

I wanna get new boots because the ones I have were given to me from my unit supply and they are too big. I have small feet and seems I would need a size 6 or 7 regular, the ones I have now are 8. Just want to know if there is any specific "type" other than the 2 listed on vanguard (jungle and leather combat) or if the boots just have to be black. Not looking to spend too much maybe around the $50 range.

Extremepredjudice

39-1 has the regs.

If you go to an army/navy store they should have boots.

Make sure you can polish the boots.

Other than that it is really personal preference.
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Al Sayre

Check out Wardens:  http://wardenssupplyco.com/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6&sort=20a&page=1

Here is a size chart, so if you can't find someting in women's try a comparable/equivalent one in men's:    http://wardenssupplyco.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=739

Also
Bargain Outfitters (Men's are much cheaper):  http://www.bargainoutfitters.com/net/Main.aspx
Sportsman's Guide: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/Main.aspx?
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Extremepredjudice

Quote from: Eclipse on September 14, 2011, 10:13:20 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on September 14, 2011, 09:16:00 PM
Make sure you can polish the boots.

Why?
So he should buy boots that don't polish?
Because boots that polish are better because you want to look professional.
And pass inspections.
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Eclipse

There is no regulatory requirement that boots be polish-able, unless they are worn with a dress uniform.
Tactical-style boots are perfectly acceptable, more readily available, and are arguably more appropriate for members who don't wear combat boots on a regular basis.  They are literally available at Walmart under $50.

As long as they are kept neat and clean, there is no reason tac boots would not pass a properly performed inspection. 

Last I checked, the majority of the military services have moved, or are moving, away from polish-able boots for the majority of their personnel.

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lordmonar

I don't think I have ever seen split sued boots in black......but I agree...if someone were to find them then they can wear them.
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jks19714

The Army ditched their shiny boots when they went to the ACU (2006?).

http://www.tacticalgearcommand.com/acu/regulations.html

When you're in the field, shiny boots are a PITA.  FINALLY some of the Uniform Nazis (cousins of the Soup Nazis) made a good decision.  How it got past some of the SGMs is a mystery to me though.  ;D

Why we need to have members spending time shining their boots back up after tromping through the fields and woods looking for crash sites and ELTs is a mystery to me too.
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Eclipse

Quote from: lordmonar on September 14, 2011, 10:41:00 PM
I don't think I have ever seen split sued boots in black......but I agree...if someone were to find them then they can wear them.

My wing's DC wears them with the Blue field uniform, not my cup of tea, but they look very nice.

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Extremepredjudice

CAPM 39-1
Table 2.1
7, footwear.

:) highly polished=polishable boots.
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Quote from: Extremepredjudice on September 14, 2011, 10:47:50 PM
CAPM 39-1
Table 2.1
7, footwear.

:) highly polished=polishable boots.

I believe your cite refers to footwear worn with the Men's Service, Mess Dress and Semi Formal uniforms not BDUs.

When you come in from the field knock the crud off of them slap some polish on buff them and you should be good to go.

SarDragon

OK, now let's look at the whole citation, and not just the little piece that supports you.

This one's from the dress uniform section:

Black, with or without safety toe; must have a
plain rounded toe or rounded capped toe with
or without perforated seam; zipper or elastic
inserts are optional; no designs. Highly
polished, high gloss, or patent leather.

This one's from the BDU section:

Black, with or without safety toe, plain rounded toe or rounded capped
toe with or without perforated seam. Zipper or elastic inserts optional,
smooth or scotch-grained leather or man-made material, and may have a
high gloss or patent finish.

The rest of the footwear entries are non-specific about shininess.

Since the OP is likely going to be wearing these boots with a utility type uniform, shininess isn't important, or a requirement.
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Extremepredjudice

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Quote from: PA Guy on September 14, 2011, 11:02:04 PM
Quote from: Extremepredjudice on September 14, 2011, 10:47:50 PM
CAPM 39-1
Table 2.1
7, footwear.

:) highly polished=polishable boots.

I believe your cite refers to footwear worn with the Men's Service, Mess Dress and Semi Formal uniforms not BDUs.

When you come in from the field knock the crud off of them slap some polish on buff them and you should be good to go.
While I do agree don't go uniform natzi on GT's boots, they should polish them. It keeps the boots in better condition, and waterproofs them better. Just saying.

Lots of bad things happen to wet feet in enclosed spaces, especially if they are in there for a long time.

But still, unless you are going to buy 2 pairs of boots, you need some that came be polished.

Sardragon, oops, I didn't realise I was in the wrong section. You are correct.
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Quote from: Extremepredjudice on September 14, 2011, 11:11:02 PM
But still, unless you are going to buy 2 pairs of boots, you need some that came be polished.

Again, please cite a single situation in CAP which mandates that you purchase boots that requiring polishing.

Dress uniforms allow for their wear, that doesn't make them required.

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ol'fido

I keep hearing people say you need to keep your boots polished to help waterproof them. If they are not Goretex or an equivalent, polish may help but the judicious application of Mink Oil will go a lot farther than the Kiwi.
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titanII

Quote from: ol'fido on September 15, 2011, 12:08:40 AM
I keep hearing people say you need to keep your boots polished to help waterproof them. If they are not Goretex or an equivalent, polish may help but the judicious application of Mink Oil will go a lot farther than the Kiwi.
+1,000,000
Hmmm, which is better for waterproofing, wax or the oils of an animal that spends most of it's time in the water? ;D
If you really care about the functionality of your boots,  then you WILL get ones with Gore-Texx and Vibram-type soles. Nothing else is as good.
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Eclipse

Sympatex seems to be more prevalent in boots then Gore-Tex, but it's the same idea.

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dogboy

Quote from: LadyROBOcop on September 14, 2011, 09:12:12 PM
I wanna get new boots . Not looking to spend too much maybe around the $50 range.

For a Cadet (with feet that will outgrow boots in a year) and non-Ground Team Senior members, I recommend boot 5094 at

http://www.galaxyarmynavy.com/products.asp?cat=101

decent boots for $50.

The typical non-Ground Team Senior will never wear them out and a cadet will outgrow them.

Note: my Wing requires all-leather boots for aircrew.

PHall

Quote from: dogboy on September 15, 2011, 03:27:52 AM
Quote from: LadyROBOcop on September 14, 2011, 09:12:12 PM
I wanna get new boots . Not looking to spend too much maybe around the $50 range.

For a Cadet (with feet that will outgrow boots in a year) and non-Ground Team Senior members, I recommend boot 5094 at

http://www.galaxyarmynavy.com/products.asp?cat=101

decent boots for $50.

The typical non-Ground Team Senior will never wear them out and a cadet will outgrow them.

Note: my Wing requires all-leather boots for aircrew.

Yeah, California Wing tried to tell me that the fabric sided Bellevue flight boots I was issued in the Air Force weren't "good enough".
I ignored them. The bloody things are certified flight boots and are also good to go for chemical environments too. ::)

SARDOC

Quote from: dogboy on September 15, 2011, 03:27:52 AM
Note: my Wing requires all-leather boots for aircrew.

Um...Why is that?   Is this the same state that requires all aircrew wear nomex too?