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Title: #75for75challenge
Post by: Papabird on November 02, 2017, 12:55:54 AM
Interesting email to CAP Parents.   Interesting that as a CAP Officer, I did not receive this, but it went out to all the cadets and parents (separate e-mail accounts).  If I didn't know anything about this, it would be difficult to answer questions. Considering most units that participate in Wreaths across America are already fundraising pretty hard, another $75.00 on top of that....wow.  I don't know, it seems a little tone deaf to do this and at the END of the 75th year.  Maybe this was waiting for the new 60-1 too.  Oh that was a little snarky...sorry.  Anyways, if you haven't seen this yet, here it is:

Dear CAP Parent,

Is your Cadet ready to accept the #75for75Challenge? Cadets all around the nation, just like your son or daughter, will be stepping up and raising much needed funds to support their local units. This should provide opportunities for each unit's cadet program to continue to grow.

What is the #75for75Challenge? It's Civil Air Patrol's first ever national fundraising campaign that is CADET driven from the ground up. It will generate much needed funds directly to your cadet's local CAP unit. Any cadet can take the Challenge and thereby take ownership of their program and affect real change for their local unit. The money raised can be used by their unit for projects, equipment, scholarships, or any other needs their unit may have.

Once your Cadet embarks on this Challenge they will be able to sign up with their own Personal Fundraising Page by using their EMAIL address (this is the email address that CAP has on file) as their Login Name. They can personalize their page with text, photos and even set a personal fundraising goal. This personal site is where you can send people and businesses in your community to donate to their fundraising efforts. Your cadet can also challenge their friends and other Senior Members on social media with the hashtag #75for75Challenge. Oh, and did we mention there are some amazing prizes available for them too?

To participate in the #75for75Challenge, cadets under the age of 18 will be required to have one of their parent's permission to participate. The 75 for 75 website will give you and your cadet instructions on how to accomplish this.

Head over to the https://cap75for75.org/moreinformation/ to learn more about the #75for75Challenge and how your cadet could win big while supporting their local Cadet Program.

Should you have any questions about the #75for75Challenge send an email to 75challenge@gocivilairpatrol.org.

We All Wish Your Cadet Good Luck! Thank you for supporting our cadets!

The 75 for 75 Challenge Development Team


Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: arajca on November 02, 2017, 01:16:13 AM
I got it at 1842 MDT.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: SarDragon on November 02, 2017, 01:16:54 AM
Stand by, yours is coming. I just got mine in the last hour.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: Eclipse on November 02, 2017, 01:18:03 AM
Was sent to Commanders on the 22nd, was supposed to go to cadets, parents, and seniors this week (looks like it is).

Clearly NHQ believes money is the limiting factor to unit operations and growth, not something
I've experienced in my 18 years, and certainly not in the last couple of years, considering between
CEAP and VG vouchers, there's more money in the system then ever.

CAP needs a legitimate, sustained, multi-level national marketing campaign, supported or better driven by
the RRO directorate, not PA, because visibility is useless without the ability to execute.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: arajca on November 02, 2017, 01:43:21 AM
I have commented that National needs to get involved in Recruiting. The usual response is units need to do more recruiting and National will not know what units need. No one has asked for more info and has walked away when I tried to explain.

It is true National will not know what a particular unit needs. They do not need to. National's role would be to make the public aware of CAP. Wings and units would then be able to take this awareness and provide local information. When the first 20 secs of your 30 sec elevator speech is spent explaining what CAP is in general, you've lost the battle.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: OldGuy on November 02, 2017, 02:26:55 AM
Are you ready to accept Civil Air Patrol's Cadet Program #75for75Challenge? You didn't think this was for Cadets only did you?


Cadets and Senior Members from all around the nation will be stepping up and raising much needed funds to support their local units and provide opportunities for their units to continue to grow.


What is the #75for75Challenge? It's Civil Air Patrol's first ever national fundraising campaign that is CADET driven from the ground up. It will generate much needed funds directly to local CAP units. Senior Members and cadets can take the Challenge and take ownership of their program and affect real change for their local unit. The money raised can be used by each unit for projects, equipment, scholarships, or any other needs the unit may have.


If you've been involved in Cadet Programs, were once a cadet or simply know the importance of having our future leaders supported, then you will see why Civil Air Patrol is challenging you as well!


Once you embark on this Challenge you will be able to sign up with your own Personal Fundraising Page by using your [redacted at poster's request] address email as your Login Name. Your page is the place that you can send people and businesses in your community that want to donate to your efforts. Add your photo, tell supporters about your goals and watch your hard work pay off. Don't forget to challenge your friends on social media with the hashtag #75for75Challenge.


Head over to CAP75for75.org to learn more about the #75for75Challenge and how you support your local unit.


Your #75for75Challenge ID Number is :
The donations that you raise will be directed to your unit :


Should you have any questions about the #75for75Challenge send an email to 75challenge@gocivilairpatrol.org.


Good Luck!


The 75 for 75 Challenge Development Team

[edited at poster's request]
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: Jester on November 02, 2017, 02:33:34 AM
Yeah, a little notice would have been nice.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on November 02, 2017, 05:13:05 AM
Quote from: Papabird on November 02, 2017, 12:55:54 AM
Interesting email to CAP Parents.   Interesting that as a CAP Officer, I did not receive this, but it went out to all the cadets and parents (separate e-mail accounts).  If I didn't know anything about this, it would be difficult to answer questions. Considering most units that participate in Wreaths across America are already fundraising pretty hard, another $75.00 on top of that....wow.  I don't know, it seems a little tone deaf to do this and at the END of the 75th year.  Maybe this was waiting for the new 60-1 too.  Oh that was a little snarky...sorry.  Anyways, if you haven't seen this yet, here it is:


I believe it's coming closer to the BEGINNING of the 75th year. If I remember correctly (and I've no doubt that I will be corrected if not), the CAP cadet program started around October 1942.



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Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: dwb on November 02, 2017, 10:16:05 AM
Quote from: Papabird on November 02, 2017, 12:55:54 AM
I don't know, it seems a little tone deaf to do this and at the END of the 75th year.

In case it wasn't clear, this is the "75th cadet year", the 75-year anniversary of the cadet program. You are correct that the CAP founding year was 1941, and thus its 75-year anniversary was in 2016.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: Papabird on November 02, 2017, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on November 02, 2017, 01:16:54 AM
Stand by, yours is coming. I just got mine in the last hour.

It did come in at 2139 ET.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: Papabird on November 02, 2017, 10:56:10 AM
Quote from: dwb on November 02, 2017, 10:16:05 AM
Quote from: Papabird on November 02, 2017, 12:55:54 AM
I don't know, it seems a little tone deaf to do this and at the END of the 75th year.

In case it wasn't clear, this is the "75th cadet year", the 75-year anniversary of the cadet program. You are correct that the CAP founding year was 1941, and thus its 75-year anniversary was in 2016.

Not sure I understand what you are saying here, but that is OK.  If October 1942 is the birthday of the cadet program, then the 75th year was between October 2016 and October 2017.  (Your first year is between birth and your 1st birthday, and on that birthday you start your second year.)  But I guess I will blame it on the disagreement if 2000 or 2001 was the start of the new millennia.  :)

Sorry for the digression, just explaining what I was saying.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: Eclipse on November 02, 2017, 02:26:54 PM
If you didn't see it, check your SPAM folder - the service house NHQ is using for the list
tends to get flagged a lot.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: etodd on November 02, 2017, 07:05:43 PM
QuoteOnce you embark on this Challenge you will be able to sign up with your own Personal Fundraising Page ...

So basically Hdqs is setting up thousands of gofundme type pages, each with a photo of a cute puppy (Cadet).

This is too funny.

But yes, it will generate a lot. Because each Cadet and and their parents will SHARE the page on their Facebook and other social media pages to insure that all their friends and family see the page and are guilted into contributing.

The most succesful Cadet fundraisers will be the ones that leverage social media to the hilt and get thousands of views to their donation page.

Would be VERY interesting to see all the server stats on this, once completed.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: dwb on November 02, 2017, 07:16:41 PM
I like the concept. Most of the funds raised benefit the local unit, NHQ gets a slice, and everyone wins. The implementation and messaging will be key, and we don't always do a great job with that.

If even five cadets in your squadron complete the challenge, you get $300+ in your unit bank account. For small squadrons, that's a lot of cabbage.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: NIN on November 02, 2017, 07:47:06 PM
If just half my cadets get to $75, we'll be floating in the fat #75for75Challenge cash.

(https://i.imgur.com/2EiHxD7.png)
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: etodd on November 02, 2017, 07:48:42 PM
Any requirements for Squadrons to report how they spend this big influx?
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: NIN on November 02, 2017, 07:58:25 PM
Quote from: etodd on November 02, 2017, 07:48:42 PM
Any requirements for Squadrons to report how they spend this big influx?

I'm sure CAPR 173-1 governs. Don't go taking any Caribbean vacations with the squadron credit card, or buying a car. :)
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: etodd on November 02, 2017, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: NIN on November 02, 2017, 07:58:25 PM
Quote from: etodd on November 02, 2017, 07:48:42 PM
Any requirements for Squadrons to report how they spend this big influx?

I'm sure CAPR 173-1 governs. Don't go taking any Caribbean vacations with the squadron credit card, or buying a car. :)

Other than the obvious like you state ... Virtually nothing in that doc that dictates how a Squadron can spend its money. Scholarships for Cadets, uniforms, training gear, etc., etc. I'm assuming can be decided on locally. How big an item has to be run up a chain first? If a Squadron got a $4k donation and wanted to build up a nice simulator for Cadets, for example, can they 'just do it' or would that have to go up through channels?
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: arajca on November 03, 2017, 12:48:10 AM
Quote from: etodd on November 02, 2017, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: NIN on November 02, 2017, 07:58:25 PM
Quote from: etodd on November 02, 2017, 07:48:42 PM
Any requirements for Squadrons to report how they spend this big influx?

I'm sure CAPR 173-1 governs. Don't go taking any Caribbean vacations with the squadron credit card, or buying a car. :)

Other than the obvious like you state ... Virtually nothing in that doc that dictates how a Squadron can spend its money. Scholarships for Cadets, uniforms, training gear, etc., etc. I'm assuming can be decided on locally. How big an item has to be run up a chain first? If a Squadron got a $4k donation and wanted to build up a nice simulator for Cadets, for example, can they 'just do it' or would that have to go up through channels?
If the cost exceeds $500, the unit's Finance Committee would need to approve it before starting, but nothing higher. When the receipts are due, the unit would need to include a copy of the FMC minutes approving the expenditure AND a copy of minutes approving the payment of the bills.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: xray328 on November 27, 2017, 06:58:45 PM
I agree with the OP, this comes at a bad time, at least in our unit.  We were in the middle of the Wreaths Across America Fundraiser.  $75 is a hefty donation to ask for as well.  FWIW, we had six cadets stand in front of Trader Joe's on Veterans Day for 2 hours and collect $1705.  That's 113 veterans honored and $565 back to the unit, again, in just those two hours alone. 


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Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: Spam on November 27, 2017, 07:46:38 PM
Wreaths Across America / Worcester Wreaths Inc.?


No thanks. Notwithstanding the sincerity of many of our members that they're doing an honorable thing (for profit), I feel as if we've been duped into being the DoDs version of street corner Moonies. I don't like what it is doing to us ethically, either.


http://www.give.org/charity-reviews/national/veterans-and-military/wreaths-across-america-in-columbia-falls-me-19798 (http://www.give.org/charity-reviews/national/veterans-and-military/wreaths-across-america-in-columbia-falls-me-19798)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donate-wreaths-across-america-lesson-003930549.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/donate-wreaths-across-america-lesson-003930549.html)


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Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: Eclipse on November 27, 2017, 08:15:08 PM
Grandma donates #75 - the unit gets $63.75.

Grandma donates $75 - the unit gets $75.

Math.

Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: xray328 on November 27, 2017, 11:55:39 PM
Tougher sell IMHO.  I'm interested to see what the average squadron is bringing in on this 75for75.  I just think it's more difficult to get $75 from your average donor.  $1 Chocolate bars are a tough sell and people get to eat those.


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Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: ProdigalJim on November 28, 2017, 02:56:46 AM
Fifteen aunts, uncles, cousins and grandparents each chip in $5.00...and Cadet Snuffy reaches $75. Doesn't seem too onerous to me.
Title: Re: #75for75challenge
Post by: Johnny Yuma on December 04, 2017, 03:25:06 AM
Well our favorite Keyboard Cowards have picked up this thread and ran with it into a story, just an FYI...