CAP-USAF Completes realignment from Holm Center to 1AF

[THRAWN]

Not every one. NJ and PA shared a LO and each had an LNCO.

[JeffDG]

Not every one. NJ and PA shared a LO and each had an LNCO.

Not every wing had a State Director either.

[SarDragon]

Not every one. NJ and PA shared a LO and each had an LNCO.

Eons ago ('70s), every wing had their own LO and LNCO. It wasn't until maybe even the '90s when there was sharing going on. I don't recall the reasons, but it happened gradually, reducing the numbers of LOs, until the billets shifted from AD military, to retired military/GS civilians.

[Eclipse]

It wasn't until maybe even the '90s when there was sharing going on. I don't recall the reasons, but it happened gradually, reducing the numbers of LOs, until the billets shifted from AD military, to retired military/GS civilians.

It was primarily a happenstance of career moves vs. finding the new guy, then once a position was vacant long enough,
the respective wing, etc., came to the realization they didn't need an independent one and the effort to fill the slot was slowed or
stopped.  It takes a special person to dance with CAP, not to mention the requirements are somewhat "specific", further reducing the
potential pool.

As I recall, CAP-USAF was down to about 30-35 SDs before the last reorganization.

The RAP issue is / was a similar problem, made worse by funding issues.

[FW]

Not every one. NJ and PA shared a LO and each had an LNCO.

Eons ago ('70s), every wing had their own LO and LNCO. It wasn't until maybe even the '90s when there was sharing going on. I don't recall the reasons, but it happened gradually, reducing the numbers of LOs, until the billets shifted from AD military, to retired military/GS civilians.

In 1994(?), there was a major shakeup in CAP-USAF/CAPHQ staffing; mostly caused by a decrease in the AF budget...  There's been a steady decline of manpower ever since, however that is another story.  CAP-USAF's duties will not change with the realignment.  CAPHQ will still continue to be augmented with volunteer staffers, and (CAP) funding will basically stay the same.

[NIN]

In 1994(?), there was a major shakeup in CAP-USAF/CAPHQ staffing; mostly caused by a decrease in the AF budget...  There's been a steady decline of manpower ever since, however that is another story.  CAP-USAF's duties will not change with the realignment.  CAPHQ will still continue to be augmented with volunteer staffers, and (CAP) funding will basically stay the same.

1994 was when CAPHQ was "divorced" from CAP-USAF and the so-called "CAP, Inc" rose.

Prior to 1994, the "Executive Director" (basically, Don Rowland's job) was also the job of the dual-hatted Commander, CAP-USAF.

And HQ directorates were managed by a combination of USAF personnel and USAF employees (not sure if the civilians were paid by "CAP, Inc" or they got actual USG paychecks)

Look thru old regs, for example, CAPR 147-1 (Exchange Service).  "ELIZABETH A. MASHBURN, Major, USAF. Director of Administration"  Actual USAF officers were the folks who promulgated and issued CAP regulations.

(and the signature block right next to it: "JOHN T. MASSINGALE, JR. Col, USAF. Executive Director"   Col Massingale was the CAP-USAF commander circa 1985-1986 WIWAC)

Post 1994, CAP HQ was "civilianized."

[Mitchell 1969]

In 1994(?), there was a major shakeup in CAP-USAF/CAPHQ staffing; mostly caused by a decrease in the AF budget...  There's been a steady decline of manpower ever since, however that is another story.  CAP-USAF's duties will not change with the realignment.  CAPHQ will still continue to be augmented with volunteer staffers, and (CAP) funding will basically stay the same.

1994 was when CAPHQ was "divorced" from CAP-USAF and the so-called "CAP, Inc" rose.

Prior to 1994, the "Executive Director" (basically, Don Rowland's job) was also the job of the dual-hatted Commander, CAP-USAF.

And HQ directorates were managed by a combination of USAF personnel and USAF employees (not sure if the civilians were paid by "CAP, Inc" or they got actual USG paychecks)

Look thru old regs, for example, CAPR 147-1 (Exchange Service).  "ELIZABETH A. MASHBURN, Major, USAF. Director of Administration"  Actual USAF officers were the folks who promulgated and issued CAP regulations.

(and the signature block right next to it: "JOHN T. MASSINGALE, JR. Col, USAF. Executive Director"   Col Massingale was the CAP-USAF commander circa 1985-1986 WIWAC)

Post 1994, CAP HQ was "civilianized."

FWIW, in 1973 I travelled to Republic of Korea for IACE, in commercial aircraft, but with USAF travel authorization issued by CAP-USAF, which were signed by a "DAFC" (Department of the Air Force Civilian).

[Nick]

Prior to 1994, the "Executive Director" (basically, Don Rowland's job) was also the job of the dual-hatted Commander, CAP-USAF.

And HQ directorates were managed by a combination of USAF personnel and USAF employees (not sure if the civilians were paid by "CAP, Inc" or they got actual USG paychecks)

Also known as the good 'ol days.

I recently had a lengthy chat over several days with a CAP-USAF WRC (wing reserve coodinator) who was trying to recruit me back into the program.  His impression is that the ACC (Air Combat Command) realignment is going to ramp up the reserve manning to fund more (unsure how much more) IMA (individual mobilization augmentee; basically a reservist who works for an active duty organization like CAP-USAF) positions to augment the LR (liaison region) staff on a more consistent basis than the PIRR (participating individual ready reservist; lowest tier of a reserve obligation you can have and still re-enlist in the Air Force) reservists that are pretty unpredictable in their availability and participation.  This would be consistent with my experience as the last AF manpower slash and burn of the IMA program around 2008ish(?) when the RMGs (reserve management groups; detachments of the Air Reserve Personnel Center that manage the IMA and PIRR program for the active duty MAJCOMs) were stood up defunded IMAs from the AFRC (AF Reserve Command) budget and left it up to the gaining MAJCOMs to either fund or eliminate the positions.  That effectively eliminated the AETC IMA program (and, in turn, the vast majority of CAP-USAF) because they didn't have operational money to use.  The hope here is that 1 AF with a real-world mission has the money to put IMAs back in the field.

Edit: Added definitions to all those acronyms.  Sorry, I go 3-letter-nuts when I start talking Air Force stuff.

[stillamarine]

Edit: Added definitions to all those acronyms.  Sorry, I go 3-letter-nuts when I start talking Air Force stuff.

Haha, I was about to say "Holy Acronyms Batman!" Be interesting to see how that plays out.

[Luis R. Ramos]

McLarty-

You should have gone the complete way, and capitalize them!



Just Joking!

Thank you, as not all of us know their meanings!

[PHall]

McLarty-

You should have gone the complete way, and capitalize them!



Just Joking!

Thank you, as not all of us know their meanings!

Funny, I understood him no problem. But I was in the Air Force too.

[Garibaldi]

On a semi-related note, I attended an NJROTC parent's brief with my best friend, whose son is going into the program (For whatever reason he chose NJROTC over CAP, but that's neither here nor there). They had a few acronyms I wasn't familiar with, and dumb me sat through a briefing on the cadet-parent organization for TWENTY MINUTES before I realized the CPO on the screen didn't stand for Chief Petty Officer. I felt so dumb.

[Luis R. Ramos]

I WILL bite.

CPO, if not Chief Petty Officer...?



Duh! [Palm on face!!!]

Cadet-Parent Orgnization?

[Garibaldi]

I WILL bite.

CPO, if not Chief Petty Officer...?



Duh! [Palm on face!!!]

Cadet-Parent Orgnization?

Exactly my reaction.

[SarDragon]

OTOH, I almost immediately discard Chief Petty Officer as the expansion of CPO in any non-Navy context.

[Luis R. Ramos]

Remember that Garibaldi's story was at a Navy JROTC event if I understand it correctly, so he had reason to believe it was Navy-related and thus thinking about Chief Petty Officer was justified, but your comments do have merit...

[Garibaldi]

Remember that Garibaldi's story was at a Navy JROTC event if I understand it correctly, so he had reason to believe it was Navy-related and thus thinking about Chief Petty Officer was justified, but your comments do have merit...

To be fair, I had just come back from a 2.5 mile hike and my brain hadn't yet adjusted to oxygen.

[Eclipse]

I recently had a lengthy chat over several days with a CAP-USAF WRC (wing reserve coodinator) who was trying to recruit me back into the program.  His impression is that the ACC (Air Combat Command) realignment is going to ramp up the reserve manning to fund more (unsure how much more) IMA (individual mobilization augmentee; basically a reservist who works for an active duty organization like CAP-USAF) positions to augment the LR (liaison region) staff on a more consistent basis than the PIRR (participating individual ready reservist...

I'll believe that when I see it - that takes more then initiative, that takes budget, something in significant shortage right now.

The also has to be a cost-benefit to the additional personnel, which means the converse would have to be "what's not getting done today".

Between RIFs, realignments, and program changes, CAP-USAF has been significantly marginalized over the last 5 years or so.
They no longer certify, or even need to be involved with encampments, they don't test Spaatz candidates, and their
reduction in numbers makes it very difficult for them to be much more then peripheral to Wing Plans and Programs, but with that
said, very little, to my knowledge, isn't getting "done" that could be done by RAPS.

The nation is in a draw-down, too, which means just finding reservists at all with the right attitude, not to mention proximity, gets
harder every day.  The election might change that, or it might not.

I'll take 10 reservists tomorrow if they want to join my unit, but if the idea is to have them visits more, smile politely, and watch the clock,
that doesn't offer much in the way of ROI.

[Nick]

I recently had a lengthy chat over several days with a CAP-USAF WRC (wing reserve coodinator) who was trying to recruit me back into the program.  His impression is that the ACC (Air Combat Command) realignment is going to ramp up the reserve manning to fund more (unsure how much more) IMA (individual mobilization augmentee; basically a reservist who works for an active duty organization like CAP-USAF) positions to augment the LR (liaison region) staff on a more consistent basis than the PIRR (participating individual ready reservist...

I'll believe that when I see it - that takes more then initiative, that takes budget, something in significant shortage right now.

The also has to be a cost-benefit to the additional personnel, which means the converse would have to be "what's not getting done today".

Between RIFs, realignments, and program changes, CAP-USAF has been significantly marginalized over the last 5 years or so.
They no longer certify, or even need to be involved with encampments, they don't test Spaatz candidates, and their
reduction in numbers makes it very difficult for them to be much more then peripheral to Wing Plans and Programs, but with that
said, very little, to my knowledge, isn't getting "done" that could be done by RAPS.

The nation is in a draw-down, too, which means just finding reservists at all with the right attitude, not to mention proximity, gets
harder every day.  The election might change that, or it might not.

I'll take 10 reservists tomorrow if they want to join my unit, but if the idea is to have them visits more, smile politely, and watch the clock,
that doesn't offer much in the way of ROI.

Bob, your optimism is always refreshing.

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that the MAJCOM shuffle might help them out some. Just because AETC is notoriously horrible for manpower doesn't mean ACC is. If they don't show any results by the end of FY 17, then we know it was all hype.


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[PHall]

Bob, there is a world of difference between the mindset of AETC and the mindset of ACC.
AETC is a training organization, ACC is an organization that actually accomplishes the mission.