Quality of New CAP Membership Card

[lordmonar]

I don't worry about the 12 year olds as much as I worry about the 16-20 year old cadets....or the 21-95 year old cadets  YMMV.

[sardak]

DoD is implementing DBIDS (Defense Biometric Identification System) worldwide. DBIDS is a Department of Defense (DoD) identity authentication and force protection tool that is fully operational in military locations around the world. It serves as a physical access control and critical property registration system, using bar codes and biometrics to identify cardholders. DBIDS is authorized to issue DoD identity credentials for those individuals needing physical access and not otherwise eligible for a CAC.  http://www.cac.mil/Authenticating.html

Anyone with DOD ID cards who requires access to a base must register. This includes military whether stationed on a base, living on a base, or for any reason needing access to a base. This also includes civilian employees, contractors, retiree ID card holders, military family members, and commercial vendors. People who conduct business on the base irregularly for short periods of time will receive DBIDS encoded visitor passes. NCIC/NACI checks are run on DBIDS registrants. A fingerprint is digitally captured as well as the applicant's picture. A DBIDS card is issued to those who don't have another form of DoD ID. The cards (and visitor passes) are coded with the days of the week and hours when the person is allowed to be on base, as well as the FPCON level. All ID cards are [supposed to be] scanned at the base gates. The scanner shows whether the card holder has access.





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The two Air Force bases in our state, both of which have CAP units on them, have implemented DBIDS and CAP IDs are not accepted at either base. Seniors and cadets, as well as the non-CAP parents of cadets who simply need to drive them to the meetings on base are required to have a DBIDS card. At one of the two bases cadets and their parents have been granted access only on meeting nights and weekends, but senior members were given 24/7 access (but not at all FPCON levels).

A Google search on DBIDS provides links to many news/web articles from bases where DBIDS has been implemented.

Mike

[lordmonar]

Cool.

So there you go.

[jimmydeanno]

...and the base that my unit is on that uses DBIDS allows all of our members, parents, cadets, potential members, etc on with a CAPID. 

[Spaceman3750]

Does it search NCIC every time they access?

[SarDragon]

DoD is implementing DBIDS (Defense Biometric Identification System) worldwide.

Wonder when it's going to get to my area. I frequently enter 4 military bases, and have neither seen nor heard anything about this. My United States Uniformed Services Identification and Privilege Card runs out next year, so will see what happens then. My DD Form 2 (Retired) has no expiration date, so not sure what's gonna happen with it.

[NCRblues]

DoD is implementing DBIDS (Defense Biometric Identification System) worldwide.

Wonder when it's going to get to my area. I frequently enter 4 military bases, and have neither seen nor heard anything about this. My United States Uniformed Services Identification and Privilege Card runs out next year, so will see what happens then. My DD Form 2 (Retired) has no expiration date, so not sure what's gonna happen with it.

My local base I use for clothing sale runs put out a warning sign that the base was going to start using it about a year and a half ago.

I asked the pass and ID lady what happened to the whole dibs things, she simply shrugged and said " money, what else changes things in the military?"

So, it would seem the current budget struggle affects more than just things that go boom or zoom.

[wuzafuzz]

I don't know what people are complaining about regarding the quality of the current CAP ID card.  I think it is a lot nicer looking than the DBIDS card.  My DBIDS card is made of a little sturdier stock, but the design is strictly utilitarian and the photograph is terribly washed out.

Although there are three AF bases within a two hour drive, (all with a CAP presence) my DBIDS card only works at one of them.  It's my understanding that routine access to the other bases would require additional DBIDS cards because the existing card can't be accepted at all three.  If that's accurate it's extremely unlikely we'll see CAPID's valid for base access across the board.

[RADIOMAN015]

I don't know what people are complaining about regarding the quality of the current CAP ID card.  I think it is a lot nicer looking than the DBIDS card.  My DBIDS card is made of a little sturdier stock, but the design is strictly utilitarian and the photograph is terribly washed out.

Although there are three AF bases within a two hour drive, (all with a CAP presence) my DBIDS card only works at one of them.  It's my understanding that routine access to the other bases would require additional DBIDS cards because the existing card can't be accepted at all three.  If that's accurate it's extremely unlikely we'll see CAPID's valid for base access across the board.

If your AF ID card has a bar code according to everything I've read it's pretty quick to get registered.   I don't why they need to run a sub system on each base and/or group of bases.  Probably because there's concern with internet access to a central data base.  Also hopefully the security people won't let the technology overtake common sense.  Staring at that little terminal waiting for an answer might be better spent looking at who else might be in the vehicle or what else is in the vehicle.

I've heard nothing about implementation of this on any our bases in the entire region.  Perhaps budget wise, this is going to be a slow roll for implementation in the US overall.   
RM     

[lordmonar]

It is a common card....but not common access.

Just because Local AFB allows you access on Tuesdays between 1200 and 2200 for your CAP meeting plus time to get to the clothing store.....does not mean Faraway AFB will do so.  You will have to go to that base and get your existing card registered and have them decided when you should/if you need access.

[PHall]

It's still the Base Commander's call on the subject of access to "his/her" base.
Which is why we can get in to Base X with no problems while it takes an armed escort to just go to a meeting on Base Y.