New CAP Photo ID

[Eclipse]

Good catch, Sir!   :clap:

The forest for the trees...the forest for the trees...

[Pylon]

But haven't you seen all the posts on here and CadetStuff that tell us these new cards are intended for SENIOR MEMBERS ONLY? You sig indicates that you are currently a cadet.

No need for us to get all territorial about the ID cards.   I honestly don't care who gets them, so long as that's what NHQ decides is best.  If you all log in to E-Servies, and click on the link to sign up for the ID card, it says right there (with my emphasis added):

The CAP National Board recently approved an optional picture membership card for senior and cadet members.  The cost of this optional card is $4.00.  We are still awaiting Air Force approval on the design but as soon as approval is received will begin working with a contractor to procure these cards.  Specifications for the type and file size of photos will be forthcoming.  If you pre-purchase your card now you will be first in line to receive this new card when it is available!  Your card will be charged at the time of purchase.  Delivery of your new card is anticipated to be during the fourth quarter of FY06 , barring any delays from the vendor.

[Matt]

But haven't you seen all the posts on here and CadetStuff that tell us these new cards are intended for SENIOR MEMBERS ONLY? You sig indicates that you are currently a cadet.

I just clicked on it, it may have changed, but what I see is:

The CAP National Board recently approved an optional picture membership card for senior and cadet members.  The cost of this optional card is $4.00.  We are still awaiting Air Force approval on the design but as soon as approval is received will begin working with a contractor to procure these cards.  Specifications for the type and file size of photos will be forthcoming.  If you pre-purchase your card now you will be first in line to receive this new card when it is available!    Your card will be charged at the time of purchase.  Delivery of your new card is anticipated to be during the fourth quarter of FY06   , barring any delays from the vendor.

I was intrigued because I thought it was only for SMs, but according to the site, which is often changed, it says both.

[Eclipse]

But haven't you seen all the posts on here and CadetStuff that tell us these new cards are intended for SENIOR MEMBERS ONLY? You sig indicates that you are currently a cadet.

I just clicked on it, it may have changed, but what I see is:

The CAP National Board recently approved an optional picture membership card for senior and cadet members.  The cost of this optional card is $4.00.  We are still awaiting Air Force approval on the design but as soon as approval is received will begin working with a contractor to procure these cards.  Specifications for the type and file size of photos will be forthcoming.  If you pre-purchase your card now you will be first in line to receive this new card when it is available!    Your card will be charged at the time of purchase.  Delivery of your new card is anticipated to be during the fourth quarter of FY06   , barring any delays from the vendor.

I was intrigued because I thought it was only for SMs, but according to the site, which is often changed, it says both.

I think its silly to not allow it for cadets - they need ID as much as seniors.  Perhaps there are legal issues with ID for minors.

Unless they are doing this with more secrecy than the Manhattan Project, nothing's been approved and no vendors have been chosen.  Man do I hope we're wrong on this.

[SarDragon]

OK, my bust. I hadn't actually clicked the link, because I want to wait until I see something more concrete than a URL on a web page.

That said, they may have trotted this out a bit early to see what kind of response there will be. YMMV.

[PhoenixRisen]

That link showed up and one of my guys called NHQ.  The personnel directorate was unaware there was any link, there is no ID currently even approved yet, and no timetable for the process.

Sorry...

Ok, well, I just got an e-mail back from the CAPNHQ.GOV domain webmaster and here's the response I got:

Sir,

            The new Membership Picture ID application is available for use online.



Katrina C. Jackson
Chief, Software Development
Voice: (334) 953-2479 
Fax:    (334) 953-5296
DSN:   493-2479

[Eclipse]

Yes - the application is up, but there is nothing to buy.

Ask her directly when the ID was approved and when they will ship.

[Earhart1971]

I think Photo IDs are great. Whatever form they take is fine.

It also gives member more of a sense of belonging.

I also don't see why AF Pass and ID at each base cannot provide them.

OOPS, never mind about AF comment, LOL!

[PhoenixRisen]

Yes - the application is up, but there is nothing to buy.

Ask her directly when the ID was approved and when they will ship.

We know now that it also actually charges your card, too.

http://forums.cadetstuff.org/viewtopic.php?p=104431#104431

[afgeo4]

Do you thing maybe they're trying to collect the funds so they can pay off the appropriate Air Force personnel to get this approved?  Perhaps this is our version of the 767 Tanker acquisition deal?  Maybe they're just trying to figure out if we CAP members are willing to ACTUALLY pay for nothing?  I mean the fact that we renew our memberships to buy uniforms and do work for free should have cleared up that question, but maybe they're still not sure?

Yeah, considering what happened with the prior "CAP approved, waiting for USAF approval" ID cards I'll pass.  Call me when the thing gets made and then I'll give them my CC #.

[jacklumanog]

I realize that this issue has been pretty much beaten to death, but I wasn't sure if everyone finally caught the latest on this whole photo ID card.

In case you missed it in your e-mail, MG Pineda informed everyone that the photo ID card has been approved by USAF. It's the library card design unfortunately. See the General's remarks here along with a brief screen shot of the new and approved ID card:

http://www.magnetmail.net/actions/email_web_version.cfm?
recipient_id=22135435&message_id=160445&user_id=CivilAir

Take care all!

[md132]

I also liked the idea of a photo ID.  It really doesn't matter what it looks like.  A photo ID is a photo ID.

Also I wasn't charged for the ID as of yet.  I pre-purchased it a month ago and it hasn't appeared on my statement. 

All I can say to everyone is to be patient.  There is still the CAPF 19A, or you can still use your membership card with a picture ID. 

[Major_Chuck]

I also liked the idea of a photo ID.  It really doesn't matter what it looks like.  A photo ID is a photo ID.

Also I wasn't charged for the ID as of yet.  I pre-purchased it a month ago and it hasn't appeared on my statement. 

All I can say to everyone is to be patient.  There is still the CAPF 19A, or you can still use your membership card with a picture ID. 

I ordered one as well.  According to my credit card statement I've been billed for it.

[Pylon]

Any further rumors amuk indicating when these pre-ordered cards might hit the streets?

[PhoenixRisen]

Any further rumors amuk indicating when these pre-ordered cards might hit the streets?

Well, according to the notes sent out by my wing commander (and hearing this from CadetStuff, as well), within the next two-three months.

[BillB]

Got an email notification from Knowledgebase. USAF approved the photo ID.  Here is the link National provided.

http://capnhq.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/capnhq.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=1634&p_created=1117721370

[Major_Chuck]

I would venture a safe guess would be sometime this fall for delivery of the cards.  I haven't however seen any direction on the 'official photo' they want used.  I would hope people would submit a headshot with them in one of our MANY uniform combinations.

[Eclipse]

My Wing CC's notes said April / May, Group Legal says May - I vote May.

Photos will be those posted on eServices, approved by your unit CC.

[Nick]

You know... NHQ is making this big push for photo ID cards, and I have yet to see one official announcement from them with a sample of the ID.  I know the sample is running around the unofficial channels, but c'mon now.

[alexalvarez]

Hello Capt. Nicholas Mclarty, I use to be a cadet with the San Antonio Composite Squadron (now Lackland Cadet Squadron).  I am also curious about the new cap photo ID.