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Started by Cms.sloane, August 06, 2010, 02:21:31 AM

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desertengineer1

Quote from: davidsinn on August 14, 2010, 01:11:08 AM
Quote from: DakRadz on August 14, 2010, 12:37:00 AM
The one that shows the local temp (for desertengineer) to be 129.9 degrees Fahrenheit, sir. :)

I'm guessing that you're browser won't let you view it; I promise that I see a picture in his post AND your quote of his post.

I'll take your word for it. I don't have a clue why it's not showing up.

Edit:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs153.ash2/40994_1370957270285_1122357299_30846436_4870302_n.jpg That one? Was that posted using the board's image tag? Or using HTML?

Yes.  Sorry, I can't get it to post anything other than a link to the photo.  Should have posted the link as well.

The last few days haven't been as hot.  125 yesterday, 127 the day before. 

I'm in Kuwait now, and it's a different flavor of hot - even more dangerous, IMHO.  ~135 degrees at peak and very low humidity.  Although it feels more comfortable than the previous location, it sucks the water out of you pretty fast.  I didn't know how dehydrated I was yesterday until almost too late.  Got a little light headed, took down two full bottles of water in 20 minutes, urine was still dark (sorry, sounds gross, but it's the MOST reliable hydration feedback you have - critical to watch out here).

That could have been a dangerous situation. 

Also, medical folks here report a dramatic spike in kidney stones during this period.  I guess if the kidneys aren't getting a good volume of water, people dispositioned to stones will get them much faster.



davidsinn

Quote from: desertengineer1 on August 14, 2010, 08:23:03 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on August 14, 2010, 01:11:08 AM
Quote from: DakRadz on August 14, 2010, 12:37:00 AM
The one that shows the local temp (for desertengineer) to be 129.9 degrees Fahrenheit, sir. :)

I'm guessing that you're browser won't let you view it; I promise that I see a picture in his post AND your quote of his post.

I'll take your word for it. I don't have a clue why it's not showing up.

Edit:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs153.ash2/40994_1370957270285_1122357299_30846436_4870302_n.jpg That one? Was that posted using the board's image tag? Or using HTML?

Yes.  Sorry, I can't get it to post anything other than a link to the photo.  Should have posted the link as well.


That is really weird. I just tried some different ways of getting it to work and nothing will. Maybe you should look into a different photo host that works and plays well with other browser. I can suggest a few if your interested.
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David Sinn

Hawk200

Quote from: desertengineer1 on August 14, 2010, 08:23:03 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on August 14, 2010, 01:11:08 AMI'm in Kuwait now, and it's a different flavor of hot - even more dangerous, IMHO.  ~135 degrees at peak and very low humidity.  Although it feels more comfortable than the previous location, it sucks the water out of you pretty fast.  I didn't know how dehydrated I was yesterday until almost too late.  Got a little light headed, took down two full bottles of water in 20 minutes, urine was still dark (sorry, sounds gross, but it's the MOST reliable hydration feedback you have - critical to watch out here).

That could have been a dangerous situation. 
I can attest to that heat. For me, the end result was a bag and a half of saline and several bottles of water. Not fun. A few days earlier, a soldier died from lack of proper hydration (too many RipIt's, not enough water.

The biggest reason I dehydrated was that I had missed lunch that day. You may not want to eat when it's hot, but you need to. Nutrients help the body retain fluids and keep you in balance. I learned that the hard way.

Even a pack of MRE crackers or other non-junk food edibles will help.

Krapenhoeffer

For my case in point, I can't put any other information on the internet other than what I did, without violating County policy. You'll just have to wait for the "scholarly paper" to come out.

But I do have the 2004 paper which showed evidence pointing to the superiority of CCR-based protocols. County Medical Director revised protocols soon after the paper was published, and our survival rates for cardiac arrest jumped to roughly 45%.

http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/111/16/2134
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The novel theory that intrarterial cerebral blood pressure independent of adequate 02 saturation of the blood strikes me as a hypothesis designed to promote doing compressions only; largely as a means of providing some potential benefit ( Or demonstrating due diligence) without having the PHCP get all icky and sweaty. At worst, its benign, and at best, it may offer some benefits, especially if the alternative is doing nothing. (Long term studies of people who are dead found that most dead people did not tend to improve significantly with time) It was not all that long ago where an entire school of thought promoting induced hypothermia in the field as a means to avoid the creation of free radicals was being advanced....with....no compressions at all! Of course, not too long ago, 9 out of 10 Doctors recommended Winston cigarettes.

Survival rates from sudden cardiac death rates should be improving given the number of AEDs in civilian and First Responder's hands. ( no, the shocker things, not the haji-bombs under the road!) I will wait for more definitive evidence showing that this new technique has some value. If called upon to do solo CPR on someone I don't know (or like) I will keep the CCR option open.


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RADIOMAN015

Take a look at all of the references and material at:
http://www.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/AFPAM48-151.pdf
http://www.ala.usmc.mil/safety/heatinjury.asp
http://chppm-www.apgea.army.mil/heat/
Others:
http://www.rotc.usaac.army.mil/forms/TRADOC%20heatinjurypreve.ppt
http://www.healthits.us/big5/injuryprev_2.html
http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/powerpoint/First_Aid_Presentations/heat-injuries-2.shtmlhttp://www.slideworld.org/viewslides.aspx/Prevention-of-Heat-Injuries-ppt-101042http://www.pptclasses.com/category/index-safety.htm
http://www.nps.gov/training/tel/Guides/hip_pguide_2004_0527.pdf
http://sisc.kern.org/safetyandlosscontrol/heat_injury_prevention.html

There's a lot of training material out there.  The key issue on this is to be VERY careful in hot weather, know your personnel's individual limitations (remember that any team activity is limited to the potential health hazard of the most susceptible members) and practice "prevention" rather than being forced to react. 

Also don't tell my commander I know to much otherwise I might end up being an assistant safety officer :angel:  Hey but aren't we all suppose to be that anyways!!
RM