Undercover lawyers

[RiverAux]

You seem very passionate about a lot of CAP regulations.  My suggestion would be to re-write the regulations you do not like and send them through the chain of command. 

I guess I was out of line.  Its not like CAP NHQ posted this draft regulation on the web so members could comment.  Oh, thats right...they did 

[Flying Pig]

Youd be a complete geek if you wore your CAP uniform to court.  Coming from someone who spends a lot of time in one. 

[Short Field]

The first thing you want by your side at a court-martial is a lawyer in a pinstriped suit.   

[PHall]

A proposed regulation for CAP legal officers is available here: http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/R111_001_draft_F128ECEC6CCCA.pdf

I find this provision somewhat troubling (emphasis mine):

8. Uniforms and Insignia:
a. Legal officers are not required to wear a uniform unless required by a specific activity.  When the uniform is worn, it will be worn as prescribed by CAPM 39-1, CAP Uniform Manual. Any CAP uniform, including the CAP blazer combination or appropriate civilian attire, may be worn.

Can anyone come up with a reasonable justification for this special exception allowing legal officers to not wear uniforms?  Just how far does this go?  Does this except them from the requirement to wear a uniform around cadets?  Since I assume this would exempt them from wearing a uniform to regular meetings, I suppose it does. 

Are doctors going to be exempted now? 

So what is the problem here and why do you even care?

Does it effect you personally?

You seem to have problems with many CAP Regulations.

Maybe you need to find another organization to participate in because all of this stress you seem to have about CAP Regulations can't be good for you.

[RiverAux]

Maybe you need to find another organization to participate in because all of this stress you seem to have about CAP Regulations can't be good for you.

I appreciate your concern.

[Gunner C]

Don't forget that our former national commander was a lawyer.  I don't think he ever bought a mess dress until he became a brig gen (saw him at a wing banquet in his home state in a tuxedo).  I think he might have had some input into this.

[dhon27]

Don't forget that our former national commander was a lawyer.  I don't think he ever bought a mess dress until he became a brig gen (saw him at a wing banquet in his home state in a tuxedo).  I think he might have had some input into this.

Well, the provision that people are taking issue with has been in the regulation since November 1993.  As such, it's not something new and apparently noone has seen it as a significant issue in over 15 years.

[RiverAux]

Don't forget that our former national commander was a lawyer.  I don't think he ever bought a mess dress until he became a brig gen (saw him at a wing banquet in his home state in a tuxedo).  I think he might have had some input into this.

If you're talking about TP, he was a police officer if I recall. 

[BuckeyeDEJ]

Don't forget that our former national commander was a lawyer.  I don't think he ever bought a mess dress until he became a brig gen (saw him at a wing banquet in his home state in a tuxedo).  I think he might have had some input into this.

If you're talking about TP, he was a police officer if I recall. 

*BUZZ*
Try again. Think "safety pledge," I believe.

[Flying Pig]

Don't forget that our former national commander was a lawyer.  I don't think he ever bought a mess dress until he became a brig gen (saw him at a wing banquet in his home state in a tuxedo).  I think he might have had some input into this.

If you're talking about TP, he was a police officer if I recall. 

He is a retired Special Agent with the Florida Dept. of Justice.

[PHall]

Don't forget that our former national commander was a lawyer.  I don't think he ever bought a mess dress until he became a brig gen (saw him at a wing banquet in his home state in a tuxedo).  I think he might have had some input into this.

If you're talking about TP, he was a police officer if I recall. 

He is a retired Special Agent with the Florida Dept. of Justice.

Florida Department of Law Enforcement, but you're close enough.

[Gunner C]

Don't forget that our former national commander was a lawyer.  I don't think he ever bought a mess dress until he became a brig gen (saw him at a wing banquet in his home state in a tuxedo).  I think he might have had some input into this.

If you're talking about TP, he was a police officer if I recall. 

Nope, his predecessor.  (Crap, I can't remember his name - he was national legal officer before CC).  He got removed from office for a "quiet scandal" (resigned to spend more time on his law practice - that was the official reason; actual reason was a personnel matter at NHQ).

[DG]

Gen Dwight Wheeless

Manteo NC

A premier lawyer.

[MikeD]

Are doctors going to be exempted now? 

No next up are engineers, who can wear whatever they want, and get free beer after every meeting/event.  Good beer even.   

[RogueLeader]

Are doctors going to be exempted now? 

No next up are engineers, who can wear whatever they want, and get free beer after every meeting/event.  Good beer even.   

Does being an army Engineer count? or only CAP Engineers?

[JayT]

Are doctors going to be exempted now? 

No next up are engineers, who can wear whatever they want, and get free beer after every meeting/event.  Good beer even.   

Semi seriously, a doctor or an engineer will rarely, if ever, be preforming his/her professional duty for CAP.