Leadership Badge

[skippytim]

I think cadets and senior members who hold high leadership positions like Cadet Commander or Squadron Commander; (or even flight sergeant cough cough) should get little badges to display on their blues showing their leadership position, like in most of the armed forces.

[SarDragon]

Well, squadron commanders do have their own little badge.

[dogden]

Texas wing has a 39-1 supplement that allows cadet commanders to wear a forest green cord as a recognition of their important position.

[Flying Pig]

Badges?  We don't need no stinking badges!  If you have to ask who's in charge, it isn't you!

I spent 8 years in the Infantry and learned that badges and patches only buy you the benefit of the doubt for a very short time.  Please.....no more badges.

[nesagsar]

When my dad was a cadet in the 70's they had patches like that for the fatigues.

[JayT]

I think cadets and senior members who hold high leadership positions like Cadet Commander or Squadron Commander; (or even flight sergeant cough cough) should get little badges to display on their blues showing their leadership position, like in most of the armed forces.

So what are the requirments for being a Flight Sergeant in CAP?

[Psicorp]

I think cadets and senior members who hold high leadership positions like Cadet Commander or Squadron Commander; (or even flight sergeant cough cough) should get little badges to display on their blues showing their leadership position, like in most of the armed forces.

So what are the requirments for being a Flight Sergeant in CAP?

Essentially it's just being more knowledgable than a basic cadet and less experienced than a Flight Commander.  If you have a Cadet who's bright, has leadership skills, is on his/her way to becoming a Cadet Officer, guess who your Flight Sergeant should be?  If you have more than one Cadet like that, first count yourself lucky, and second rotate that position around a bit every now and then so your other bright Cadets can gain that experience.

[jimmydeanno]

So your looking for the leadership position badges from the 70s to come back? 

[JayT]

I think cadets and senior members who hold high leadership positions like Cadet Commander or Squadron Commander; (or even flight sergeant cough cough) should get little badges to display on their blues showing their leadership position, like in most of the armed forces.

So what are the requirments for being a Flight Sergeant in CAP?

Essentially it's just being more knowledgable than a basic cadet and less experienced than a Flight Commander.  If you have a Cadet who's bright, has leadership skills, is on his/her way to becoming a Cadet Officer, guess who your Flight Sergeant should be?  If you have more than one Cadet like that, first count yourself lucky, and second rotate that position around a bit every now and then so your other bright Cadets can gain that experience.

So we should give a badge to someone based on.......what?

[Psicorp]

I think cadets and senior members who hold high leadership positions like Cadet Commander or Squadron Commander; (or even flight sergeant cough cough) should get little badges to display on their blues showing their leadership position, like in most of the armed forces.

So what are the requirments for being a Flight Sergeant in CAP?

Essentially it's just being more knowledgable than a basic cadet and less experienced than a Flight Commander.  If you have a Cadet who's bright, has leadership skills, is on his/her way to becoming a Cadet Officer, guess who your Flight Sergeant should be?  If you have more than one Cadet like that, first count yourself lucky, and second rotate that position around a bit every now and then so your other bright Cadets can gain that experience.

So we should give a badge to someone based on.......what?

Based on your Squadron's policy.  If your squadron has (or institutes) a policy that Cadet leadership positions be designated on the body of the Cadet in that position, then your Cadet Flight Sargeant should have a badge.  If your squadron doesn't have such a policy (and/or doesn't want one), then there would be no badges to give out.  Commander's discretion can be a wonderful thing.

[jimmydeanno]

Now that I think about this a little more, WIWAC, at encampment one year we used position indicators.  IIRC, NIN was the one who implemented them and IIRC, they were something along these lines.

They were worn 1/2 inch above the nameplate on blues.  In BDUs we had color coded hats.

From left to right:
1) Flight Sergeant
2) Flight Commander
3) Squadron Commander
4) XO and DC
5) Cadet Commander

I may be off on the number of stripes and such.  I don't remember them adding too much clarification for the basic cadets, by the end of the first day they were supposed to know their chain of command anyway...

[SSgt Rudin]

bla bla bla... like in most of the armed forces.

Really? Like who? The Air force, Navy and Coast Guard have Command Badges, all the branches have special rank insignia for the first sergeant/command master chief/command chief/command sergeant major/etc. The Navy and Coast Guard even have a badge for the CMC saying what echelon they are the CMC for. But I have never seen a badge for LPO, LCPO, Flight Sergeant, Flight Commander, DIVO, Department Head, etc, etc.

More importantly if your cadets don't know that you are the flight sergeant you should be fired.

[MIKE]

Exhibit A:

[mikeylikey]

Holy Crap......lets do this (bring back those badges) and we can finally get rid of CAP Rank altogether!  yay.......woo-hoo!  I love it   

[afgeo4]

I think cadets and senior members who hold high leadership positions like Cadet Commander or Squadron Commander; (or even flight sergeant cough cough) should get little badges to display on their blues showing their leadership position, like in most of the armed forces.

So what are the requirments for being a Flight Sergeant in CAP?

Same as squadron commander lol. Willing and able to do the job.

[Hawk200]

I think cadets and senior members who hold high leadership positions like Cadet Commander or Squadron Commander; (or even flight sergeant cough cough) should get little badges to display on their blues showing their leadership position, like in most of the armed forces.

This doesn't sound like a practical thing to do, more like a desire for bling. People in your unit should know those in leadership positions. Such badges would indicate these positions outside the unit, in which case it's not really necessary.

I'm imagining that you're a flight sergeant? If you need a badge to show your position, you're not doing your job properly. A badge doesn't give you any more authority, or provide any additional benefit. It would simply be one more thing to buy.

[wacapgh]

I still have my Color Guard badge in the "big box o' patches and stuff". Probably got tossed in when they were discontinued.

It was more hassle than it was worth, making sure they got turned back in when a person rotated out of position, etc.

[alamrcn]

This patch seems to have been used by Civil Air Patrol over 20 years ago...

...But sorry, no solid details on it.

Here's the Texas Wing suppliment stating the Forest Green shoulder cord for cadet commanders...
http://www.incountry.us/cappatches/library/39-1sup_tx030125.pdf
I like it and think it's a good idea. Not like my wing that has a "Quarterly Cadet Drill Down Winner" shoulder cord - ew!

-Ace

[JC004]

Badges?  We don't need no stinking badges!  If you have to ask who's in charge, it isn't you!
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Nice.   

[SarDragon]

Holy Crap......lets do this (bring back those badges) and we can finally get rid of CAP Rank altogether!  yay.......woo-hoo!  I love it   

Not on your life!

I got to wear those miserable things WIWAC, and they were worse than worthless. We had more of them stuffed in a box with broken pins than we had cadets actually wearing them. I think the pins were made out of pot metal, as fragile as they were. On top of that, they tarnished easily, and the plating lasted through about four polishing evolutions.

No thank you.