It's amazing what you find in your squadron's supply room...

Started by jimmydeanno, September 02, 2007, 03:28:45 AM

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jimmydeanno

So...I was helping do a massive clean-up of our squadron today and low and behold, what do I find...an almost perfect set of the old fatigues (pickle suits).  They apparantly belonged to an AF major in SAC.  There were 2 complete sets (2 pants, 2 blouses) and a field jacket w/ liner.  They aren't even faded...

Anyone else ever find random stuff in their squadrons supply room?

If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

JC004


flyerthom

Quote from: jimmydeanno on September 02, 2007, 03:28:45 AM
So...I was helping do a massive clean-up of our squadron today and low and behold, what do I find...an almost perfect set of the old fatigues (pickle suits).  They apparantly belonged to an AF major in SAC.  There were 2 complete sets (2 pants, 2 blouses) and a field jacket w/ liner.  They aren't even faded...

Anyone else ever find random stuff in their squadrons supply room?



Being in Vegas I am afraid to look.
TC

JayT

Quote from: jimmydeanno on September 02, 2007, 03:28:45 AM
So...I was helping do a massive clean-up of our squadron today and low and behold, what do I find...an almost perfect set of the old fatigues (pickle suits).  They apparantly belonged to an AF major in SAC.  There were 2 complete sets (2 pants, 2 blouses) and a field jacket w/ liner.  They aren't even faded...

Anyone else ever find random stuff in their squadrons supply room?



Dare I ask what size?
"Eagerness and thrill seeking in others' misery is psychologically corrosive, and is also rampant in EMS. It's a natural danger of the job. It will be something to keep under control, something to fight against."

Eclipse

We several pieces of cold-war era rad-monitoring equipment - still have it, too.

"That Others May Zoom"

JohnKachenmeister

A sign publicizing "Operation Recovery" from the early 1960's.
Another former CAP officer

jimmydeanno

Quote from: JThemann on September 02, 2007, 03:40:34 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on September 02, 2007, 03:28:45 AM
So...I was helping do a massive clean-up of our squadron today and low and behold, what do I find...an almost perfect set of the old fatigues (pickle suits).  They apparantly belonged to an AF major in SAC.  There were 2 complete sets (2 pants, 2 blouses) and a field jacket w/ liner.  They aren't even faded...

Anyone else ever find random stuff in their squadrons supply room?



Dare I ask what size?

They are medium regulars if I remember correctly, I'll be able to tell you tomorrow...

However, I was considering creating a 'historical recreation' of a CAP uniform and wearing it to conferences as a novelty item.
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

badger bob

Just a reminder
Ref 67-1

It is recommended that expendable supplies be inventoried every year.

Obsolete equipment from DOD must be returned to DOD- contact your wing supply officer
Obsolete donated expendables, member obtained (also donated) or purchased with local funds (expendable) should be properly disposed of with the local commanders approval.
Chris Klein
cklein<at>cap.gov
The Supply Guy
IC2
National Volunteer Logistics Officer- Retired
WI-IGA
Wilson Award# 3320

JayT

Quote from: jimmydeanno on September 03, 2007, 03:36:40 AM
Quote from: JThemann on September 02, 2007, 03:40:34 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on September 02, 2007, 03:28:45 AM
So...I was helping do a massive clean-up of our squadron today and low and behold, what do I find...an almost perfect set of the old fatigues (pickle suits).  They apparantly belonged to an AF major in SAC.  There were 2 complete sets (2 pants, 2 blouses) and a field jacket w/ liner.  They aren't even faded...

Anyone else ever find random stuff in their squadrons supply room?



Dare I ask what size?

They are medium regulars if I remember correctly, I'll be able to tell you tomorrow...

However, I was considering creating a 'historical recreation' of a CAP uniform and wearing it to conferences as a novelty item.

I was thinking the same thing.
"Eagerness and thrill seeking in others' misery is psychologically corrosive, and is also rampant in EMS. It's a natural danger of the job. It will be something to keep under control, something to fight against."

Flying Pig

When I returned back to CAP as a Senior member after about a 7 year gap, I showed up to the unit to introduce myself and saw a cadet wearing a name plate that said "Steht" on it.  Somewhat puzzled...I asked who this cadet was being that my last name is pretty uncommon.

What had happened was that by being on base, cadets got their uniforms pretty quick, and so they could have a name plate to practice getting their uniforms ready the cadets wore the "mysterious Cadet Steht" name plate until theirs came in from the bookstore.  There were about 15 cadets who ha all been "Steht" at the begining of their CAP careers.  It was funny becaue when I first started introducing myself, I got the strangest looks from the Seniors and the cadets.  The woman who had been the Dep for Cadets literally yelled, "Its you!" when I told her my name for the first time.  I guess after I left, because of the Drill Team items, there were a couple of my name plates laying around the supply room.

bosshawk

Three sets of pristine wheel pants for Cessna 182s.  Around here, we take them off CAP aircraft so that we can more easily check brake pads on the pre-flight.  Some old timers believe that the wheel pants also block some of the view out the window on searches, while looking down.
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777

jimmydeanno

Well, they are medium regular and in really good shape, I'm almost surprised they don't have tags on them...

Other interesting thing I found was a PSA by Chuck Yeager about CAP.  It's on a film spool - but without my micrometer I couldn't tell you what size...anyone have any idea how old this is or what I can play it with?
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

IceNine

Is it the larger video (you should see the frames)

Or Audio

Looks like the tape in audio cassettes
"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

Book of Bokonon
Chapter 4

jimmydeanno

It's about 1/4 inch wide - radio PSA on a single spool...
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

smj58501

CB Radios (since turned in to Wing). They were even on our S8.

I can only imagine the handles that were dreamed up when these got used.

Sean M. Johnson
Lt Col, CAP
Chief of Staff
ND Wing CAP

jeders

Current Squadron:

Radios at least 50 years old
Radiological monitoring equipment (both hand held and aircraft mounted)
Level 1 slides (as in slide projector, not powerpoint)

Previous Squadron:
Atari computer
Earhart Award from the early 90's
personnel files from the early 90's
If you are confident in you abilities and experience, whether someone else is impressed is irrelevant. - Eclipse

ZigZag911

This being Jersey, there was a rumor once that Jimmy Hoffa was found in one of our supply areas....but it was only a rumor!

Becks

A stack of about 20 lifesaving certificates from15 years ago.

BBATW

IceNine

You intreguied me with this thread.. So I went searching

My unit has a storage shed at a members house that doesn't get ventured into much.

I found

Our original Charter certificate
2 Unit Citation Certificates
Pictures of the founding members of my unit
a whole box of OD Greens
A Box full of chrome and white helmets
Berets, ascots.
And 1 each 1 star, 2 star, 3, star, 4 star flags???

I guess I'll be spending some money getting stuff framed soon
"All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies"

Book of Bokonon
Chapter 4

jimmydeanno

Hmmm...I wonder what's up with the generals flags...perhaps General Colgan left his stuff at your squadron  >:D

I am still amazed at the junk people keep in CAP - Just finished sorting through random papers.  If you were ever wondering who was assigned as a TCO for my wing in 1983 - I could tell you...

Then, there's the folders of e-mails people felt they needed to keep because it was 'correspondance' when 'the electronic mail in that there computer thingy' was just coming out.

Other things found:

An old 'automatic polaroid' camera, looks like it was used to take pictures for the old 101 cards - it's on a stand and rotates - kinda like the cameras at the DMV.

I did finally find the boxes of squadron historical materials which include old WWII patches, articles from our original squadron opening to the sundown patrols in the 60's - I can't wait to read through this stuff.
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

JC004

Quote from: jimmydeanno on September 05, 2007, 12:58:17 AM
Hmmm...I wonder what's up with the generals flags...perhaps General Colgan left his stuff at your squadron  >:D
...

I've been looking for that stuff!  It all started when cadets seeking Mountain Dew raided my room at CLS...

alamrcn

I'm especially pleased to hear about the recovery of the Unit Charter certificates!

It sounds like we have a bunch of budding Unit Historians in here! Go ahead, sign the 2A to become your squadron's new HO at the next meeting!

Now take care of this historical stuff - put it somewhere that is safe, but won't be forgotten. Oraganize, document, learn... and then teach others about what you found.

See? It's not ALL about the reports to wing! Good job!

-Ace



Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

pixelwonk


♠SARKID♠

Hmm, lets see.  I used to be Dep. Supply officer until I became DCC.  Me and the SO did a 4 month long overhaul of our supply cage (its still underway, 2 months later and will continue for a few more months) and dragged up some interesting things.

Geiger counters for Rad monitering
Massive antenna masts
15 stretchers
Snowshoes
Sleeping bag from Korea - Had bloody bullet holes in it :o
We also burned a few hundred sets of BDU's deemed as unwearable/unusable



We also found 2 boxes of vintage WWII radio tubes donated by an old member.  We were looking at auctioning them off for squadron funding.

jimmydeanno

Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on September 09, 2007, 08:37:31 AM
Hmm, lets see.  I used to be Dep. Supply officer until I became DCC. 

That's some pretty weird stuff - especially the sleeping bag  :-X

(P.S. - DCC is a senior member position (Deputy Commander for Cadets) vs. Cadet Deputy Commander which you are.))
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

Becks

Update: Forgot that we found original photos from the 40's and 50's, some that have been taken in Rockefeller Plaza.

BBATW

JayT

Quote from: mfd1506 on September 05, 2007, 12:49:36 AM
You intreguied me with this thread.. So I went searching

My unit has a storage shed at a members house that doesn't get ventured into much.

I found

Our original Charter certificate
2 Unit Citation Certificates
Pictures of the founding members of my unit
a whole box of OD Greens
A Box full of chrome and white helmets
Berets, ascots.
And 1 each 1 star, 2 star, 3, star, 4 star flags???

I guess I'll be spending some money getting stuff framed soon


Sir, what size are the ODs?
"Eagerness and thrill seeking in others' misery is psychologically corrosive, and is also rampant in EMS. It's a natural danger of the job. It will be something to keep under control, something to fight against."

♠SARKID♠

Quote from: jimmydeanno on September 09, 2007, 03:33:18 PM
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on September 09, 2007, 08:37:31 AM
Hmm, lets see.  I used to be Dep. Supply officer until I became DCC. 

That's some pretty weird stuff - especially the sleeping bag  :-X

(P.S. - DCC is a senior member position (Deputy Commander for Cadets) vs. Cadet Deputy Commander which you are.))

Ah sassafrass, I did it again...

jimmydeanno

Well, I've found out that my "Yeager PSA" belongs to a reel-to-reel player.  Now just to find someone that has one...
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

alamrcn

Quote from: jimmydeanno on September 10, 2007, 08:29:48 PM
Well, I've found out that my "Yeager PSA" belongs to a reel-to-reel player.  Now just to find someone that has one...

I have a Techniques audio tape reel-to-reel player/recorder. The sucker weighs about 50 Lbs though! I'd like to sell it if you are interested, heh.

-Ace



Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

jimmydeanno

^Are you pulling a vanguard?  $1.00 for the item - $200 for shipping :)
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

alamrcn




Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

SAR-EMT1

MFD any chance of posting pictures of some of those items?
the ODs the Generals Flags etc...

Anyone else got any pics?

My unit lived out of a closet and a briefcase until 2002 so I dont have any old memorabilia to brag about.
C. A. Edgar
AUX USCG Flotilla 8-8
Former CC / GLR-IL-328
Firefighter, Paramedic, Grad Student

CLB

Quote from: Becks on September 05, 2007, 12:27:00 AM
A stack of about 20 lifesaving certificates from15 years ago.

One was to a cadet too.

Things I also found: (off the top of my head)

Cold War era front license plates from the 158th Fighter Sq "Bear Busters" (we used to meet in the now demo'ed ANG hangar at CAFB)

About 10 plastic models of cars and airplanes new in box
A HUGE discone antenna
2 sets of WWII era binoculars that are to this day the best I've ever seen

(In the old building)
1950's era fridge with coke bottles frozen in a block of ice 1' thick
various F-16 or F4 GSE (not any capital GSE like a GPU, but towbar type things)
Capt Christopher Bishop
Coastal Charleston Composite Squadron

CadetProgramGuy

Quote from: CLB on September 16, 2007, 02:07:11 AM
Quote from: Becks on September 05, 2007, 12:27:00 AM
A stack of about 20 lifesaving certificates from15 years ago.

About 10 plastic models of cars and airplanes new in box


My Edit......

What kind of airplanes...interested in selling?

CLB

Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on September 16, 2007, 02:51:55 AM
Quote from: CLB on September 16, 2007, 02:07:11 AM
Quote from: Becks on September 05, 2007, 12:27:00 AM
A stack of about 20 lifesaving certificates from15 years ago.

About 10 plastic models of cars and airplanes new in box


My Edit......

What kind of airplanes...interested in selling?

You have a PM
Capt Christopher Bishop
Coastal Charleston Composite Squadron

CadetProgramGuy

Quote from: CLB on September 16, 2007, 06:37:41 AM
Quote from: CadetProgramGuy on September 16, 2007, 02:51:55 AM
Quote from: CLB on September 16, 2007, 02:07:11 AM
Quote from: Becks on September 05, 2007, 12:27:00 AM
A stack of about 20 lifesaving certificates from15 years ago.

About 10 plastic models of cars and airplanes new in box


My Edit......

What kind of airplanes...interested in selling?

You have a PM

Got it thanks!!

♠SARKID♠

Crapload of uniforms just came in.  Turns out we had an offshore storage area.  One of our old supply officers from back in the 90s was storing some of our uniforms for us, and everyone forgot that he had them.  He randomly showed up to our hangar during a planning meeting and told us that he had to get them out of his barn because he was moving.  We had absolutely no idea as to how much stuff he had but it sounded like a lot, so we went over with 2 CAP vans with all the seats out plus an Expedition.  All in all, he had about 30 boxes of uniforms including BDUs, blues and flight suits.  The guy himself was pretty cool.  He used to buy and restore WWII vehicles with a specialty in half-tracks.  His entire garage was set up with beams and hoists for lifting engines and stuff.  Its going to take a while to sort through all the uniforms and inventory them, but its cool to know that we had them all sitting in his barn all these years.

alamrcn

You didn't by chance find an early-40s olive drab Harley Davidson, complete with side car that was supplied to CAP by the Army Air Corps during WWII.... did you?  <sigh>  Ahhh, the things that can be found in old barns - almost as good as old supply rooms!

-Ace



Ace Browning, Maj, CAP
History Hoarder
71st Wing, Minnesota

SDF_Specialist

Quote from: alamrcn on September 26, 2007, 03:14:17 PM
You didn't by chance find a 1940s Harley Davidson with side car, supplied to CAP by the Army Air Corps during WWII.... did you?  <sigh>  Ahhh, the things that can be found in old barns - almost as good as old supply rooms!

-Ace


Would CAP even be allowed to use those? I mean in a parade sense? Maybe CAP should have a heritage month. Where we honor everything CAP did in WWII.
SDF_Specialist

♠SARKID♠

Quote from: alamrcn on September 26, 2007, 03:14:17 PM
You didn't by chance find an early-40s olive drab Harley Davidson, complete with side car that was supplied to CAP by the Army Air Corps during WWII.... did you?  <sigh>  Ahhh, the things that can be found in old barns - almost as good as old supply rooms!

-Ace


Haha, unfortunately no. And even if I did, I'd steal commandeer recover it for myself.

Joe Baker

Josiah Baker, FO, CAP
Logistics Assistant, Timmerman Composite Squadron, GLR-WI-002

"A good simulator check ride is like successful surgery on a cadaver."

wingnut

Well

lets see, our squadron had about 7 AT6s at one time and I have a picture of the Squadron with their own control tower, a fire truck, MP vehicle. As I look around I find some reeeealy stinky sleeping bags, a huge pile of junk computers, RAD stuff. Wheel pants some old nasty uniforms.
a big locked box that says AIM-9.


Joe Baker

Open the box!  And report back, asap.  [that is if it won't get you in trouble]
Josiah Baker, FO, CAP
Logistics Assistant, Timmerman Composite Squadron, GLR-WI-002

"A good simulator check ride is like successful surgery on a cadaver."

Brad

Quote from: CLB on September 16, 2007, 02:07:11 AM
1950's era fridge with coke bottles frozen in a block of ice 1' thick

I say you thaw the coke and toss some dry ice in to re-carbonate it so you can drink it! Taste the REAL Coke Classic, before "New Coke". (And no I don't remember New Coke. That stuff came and went between May and July of 1985....I wasn't born til Dec. 1985)
Brad Lee
Maj, CAP
Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff, Communications
Mid-Atlantic Region
K4RMN

♠SARKID♠

Well, we recently turned up a treasure trove of equipment in our supply cage.

We opened up a cabinet that we had all thought belonged to a coast guard auxiliary flotilla who used to meet at our hangar.  Turns out, it isn't theirs, but ours, and was filled with vintage radio equipment that belonged to a member who has long since passed away.  My squadron commander, in his infinite generosity, gave it to me as it wasn't CAP property (with exception to the 8 Geiger counters, which were decidedly CAP property  :P).  It is all tube type equipment, and I would like to try and refurbish some of it.  Unfortunately I don't know anything about tubes and will need some help (Darn my being born after the invention of transistors).

List of stuff found
  The Ham radio is a Gonset Communicator IV, 143Mhz - 148Mhz, xtal controlled
  The CB is a Lafeyette HE-20T
  The "morse coder" is a Lettine 240, transmitting morse and voice on 10, 20, 40, 80, and 160 meters (thats all the way down to 2Mhz for the non radio savvy), xtal controlled, made in 1920s/30s
  The item in the bottom of photo002 is an ungodly heavy VHF transmitter.  It seems to be a Motorola FMTRU, or a Hallicrafter CSM.
  Everything else is marked in the photos, the Geiger counters aren't shown

Unfortunately I would have to have most of the crystals recut as they all seem to be on CAP freqs.

SarDragon

Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on November 06, 2007, 07:47:01 AM
Well, we recently turned up a treasure trove of equipment in our supply cage.

We opened up a cabinet that we had all thought belonged to a coast guard auxiliary flotilla who used to meet at our hangar.  Turns out, it isn't theirs, but ours, and was filled with vintage radio equipment that belonged to a member who has long since passed away.  My squadron commander, in his infinite generosity, gave it to me as it wasn't CAP property (with exception to the 8 Geiger counters, which were decidedly CAP property  :P).  It is all tube type equipment, and I would like to try and refurbish some of it.  Unfortunately I don't know anything about tubes and will need some help (Darn my being born after the invention of transistors).

List of stuff found
  The Ham radio is a Gonset Communicator IV, 143Mhz - 148Mhz, xtal controlled
  The CB is a Lafeyette HE-20T
  The "morse coder" is a Lettine 240, transmitting morse and voice on 10, 20, 40, 80, and 160 meters (thats all the way down to 2Mhz for the non radio savvy), xtal controlled, made in 1920s/30s
  The item in the bottom of photo002 is an ungodly heavy VHF transmitter.  It seems to be a Motorola FMTRU, or a Hallicrafter CSM.
  Everything else is marked in the photos, the Geiger counters aren't shown

Unfortunately I would have to have most of the crystals recut as they all seem to be on CAP freqs.

They might make better donations to CAP historical collectors. Getting tubes is hard these days, and they are getting more expensove all the time. The crystals are also expensive.

If you give us pictures of the data plates, we might be able to provide more info on what the ?'d items are.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

♠SARKID♠

QuoteGetting tubes is hard these days, and they are getting more expensove all the time. The crystals are also expensive.

On the contrary, they arent.  At least not the ones for these radios.  They are all tubes commonly used in modern guitar amps and that sort of thing.  They shouldnt be hard to come by.  As for some pics, I'll see what I can do.

DrDave

Sell all the old radio equipment on Ebay and then buy your squadron a new powerpoint projector or two.

That's what one of my squadrons did.

Dr. Dave
Lt. Col. (Dr.) David A. Miller
Director of Public Affairs
Missouri Wing
NCR-MO-098

"You'll feel a slight pressure ..."

♠SARKID♠

Yeah, thats the backup plan.  I love old electronics and that kind of thing though.  For me, its amazing to see what equipment had to be used to do the same thing a smaller, modern device can do (ie tubes sets vs. transistors).

The first two photos are of the Lettine.  That I have plenty of info, just wanted to show a better close up.  The manual for it is here http://resdon111.googlepages.com/lettine240.pdf
The third and fourth are of the one that I dont know what it is.  I pulled out the component board and took some pics.
I also took a vid of the one side, but its really hard to see (http://resdon111.googlepages.com/IMGP0636.AVI)

Al Sayre

The 3rd photo looks a lot like the guts of an old TACAN unit I used to work on in the Navy.  Post some photos of the front and back, in and out of the housing and maybe Dave or I can identify it.  Also look for numbers like AN/ARC XXX on it somewhere or anything that says NSN.
Lt Col Al Sayre
MS Wing Staff Dude
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
GRW #2787

♠SARKID♠

Here, is this good?

http://resdon111.googlepages.com/radio.wmv
(Sorry bout my music in the background)

Also, that picture is of what's under the flaps on the front panel

SarDragon

That doesn't look like any airborne TACAN I ever worked on, and I go all the way back to the ARN-21. Doesn't resemble the ground units either.

The unit in the flick looks like some commercial unit.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

SJFedor

Is it possible it could be some really old school airmobile repeater?

Steven Fedor, NREMT-P
Master Ambulance Driver
Former Capt, MP, MCPE, MO, MS, GTL, and various other 3-and-4 letter combinations
NESA MAS Instructor, 2008-2010 (#479)

♠SARKID♠

Okay, I did a little digging and came up with what I think it is.  I read a story involving two HAMs debating the calibration of their radios. (http://www.listserve.com/archives/collins/2007-02/msg00576.html) One of them was on a Motorola FMTRU-41D, the model we've been discussing.  They were operating in the 2M ham band.  So, it turns out its just another HAM band transceiver.  Shuck darns...