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Mordecai
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« on: July 18, 2017, 01:56:15 AM »

https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/fly_for_work_business/becoming_a_pilot/

I've been considering taking the aeronautical knowledge test and getting a remote pilot certificate mostly to just boost my practical AE knowledge, but I was wondering if there are any rumblings about this being used by CAP at all.
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2017, 03:59:59 PM »

The drone pilots wear aviator sunglasses and have an aura of swagger around them, as they take pride in being at the forefront of tactical development.



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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 04:13:31 PM »

OMG It actually says that in the article.

These guys must be getting so much crap.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 04:14:21 PM »

 :o
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2017, 04:14:48 PM »

Well, I don't have aviator sunglasses, so I guess this plan is fragged.
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Luis R. Ramos
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 04:31:09 PM »

Those are drone pilots? Why do they have sunglasses? Monitors too bright, I guess...
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2017, 04:52:00 PM »

Those are drone pilots? Why do they have sunglasses? Monitors too bright, I guess...

Yeah, everyone knows that the sunglasses should go over the drone's optics for the best protection!
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2017, 05:06:11 PM »


Remember that white house lawn UAV thread a year or two ago?

Counter UAS is a very active field now... go read some of the comments. I don't think, though, that we predicted the sunglasses.

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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 05:41:32 PM »

I was under the mistaken, I guess idea, that by now counter-UAS had grown to have miniature RADARs and heat-detection technologies, and there were drones so equipped by now...
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2017, 05:52:24 PM »

Radar is heavy and large, compared to available lift capacity. An infrared based system is more practical, but not without its own challenges.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 06:07:08 PM »

Depends, IR vs I2. Some systems are really really tiny/lightweight. The ICE cameras used on tactical aircraft is pretty high res (the later versions - the ICE 11 was where they started approaching NVG quality, before that not so much).


Luis, you're thinking sensors, which is only one part of a find/fix/target/engage/assess kill chain. DoD is looking at many several aspects of the problem, rather than turning F-22 maintenance chiefs loose with firearms, shooting at the drone peeking into their secured hangars.


More to the OPs point - yes, I would say that a UAS license would be initially useful to CAP from the standpoint of increasing your value to our AE and CP mission sets. Not so much the ES mission immediately, but it is coming.


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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2017, 06:41:34 PM »

OMG It actually says that in the article.

These guys must be getting so much crap.

Maybe because they're in the Nevada desert
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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2017, 07:29:08 PM »

I know that RADAR technology is big and heavy.

I sent that message trying to follow in the sense that another poster stated regarding the sunglasses. Kind of joking.

But who is to say that in the future with all the nano tech, and other tech advancements we will not be able to put radars and other types of sensors that now are heavy and big on drones?
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2017, 08:42:09 PM »

OMG It actually says that in the article.

These guys must be getting so much crap.

Maybe because they're in the Nevada desert

That big bad dangerous Nevada desert. Gotta have those drop legs.
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2017, 09:48:24 PM »

I think there are quite a few Part 107 UAS Pilots already in CAP. I use a drone as a tool in my business on ocassion but don't really expect to see CAP using them much anytime soon. But that has been discussed ad nauseum here in other threads. That horse has been beat to death.
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2017, 10:07:59 PM »

I know that RADAR technology is big and heavy.

I sent that message trying to follow in the sense that another poster stated regarding the sunglasses. Kind of joking.

But who is to say that in the future with all the nano tech, and other tech advancements we will not be able to put radars and other types of sensors that now are heavy and big on drones?

I don't know how much you know about radar, but here's a basic primer:

It requires, as a minimum, a transmitter, a receiver, an antenna, and means to display data. Given the permissible frequency band and the output power required, the transmitter can only be shrunk so much. What kind of range are you talking about? Doubling the range requires four times the output power, at a minimum. We're talking 100+ watts for a 50 mile range.

An antenna large enough to properly receive the return signal has similar size limits. The receiver can be pretty small. The additional components to get display data to a remote location could be the smallest subassembly, but still are not trivial.
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2017, 10:12:38 PM »

So I can be more clear, at this time I am thinking and talking Science Fiction.

But remember that in the past, the earlier Sci-Fi has turned out to be present reality.
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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2017, 10:23:58 PM »

OMG It actually says that in the article.

These guys must be getting so much crap.

Maybe because they're in the Nevada desert

That big bad dangerous Nevada desert. Gotta have those drop legs.
or maybe because, as the article says, they're in the big sandbox at Bagram.

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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2017, 10:33:40 PM »

OMG It actually says that in the article.

These guys must be getting so much crap.

Maybe because they're in the Nevada desert

That big bad dangerous Nevada desert. Gotta have those drop legs.
or maybe because, as the article says, they're in the big sandbox at Bagram.

Mike

Well there you go reading the article and making sense........
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« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2017, 04:22:50 AM »

I think there are quite a few Part 107 UAS Pilots already in CAP.

And a number of current/former "big iron" RPA drivers, too.  8)
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