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Started by LSThiker, November 02, 2015, 11:20:51 PM

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LSThiker

I am curious about the number of cadets that attend NCSAs each year, especially the "non-sexy" NCSAs.

That is, I know a few hundred attend NBB, NESA, Hawk, COS each and <100 for CLA, IACE,  AFSCFC.

How many cadets attend activities such as:
MKS Business
Engineering Academy
E-Tech
Civil Engineering
Advanced Technologies Academy
Manufacturing & Maintenance
Model Aircraft & Remote Control
National Character & Leadership Symposium

Ned

Answers in RED, numbers are for cadet students only.  I.e., does not include seniors or cadet cadre types.   Nor does it include basic encampments put on by wings and regions (over 2,000 cadets).


Quote from: LSThiker on November 02, 2015, 11:20:51 PM
I am curious about the number of cadets that attend NCSAs each year, especially the "non-sexy" NCSAs.

That is, I know a few hundred attend NBB, NESA, Hawk, COS each and <100 for CLA, IACE,  AFSCFC.

How many cadets attend activities such as:
MKS Business 25 pax
Engineering Academy 
E-Tech 25 pax
Civil Engineering 40 pax
Advanced Technologies Academy  25 pax
Manufacturing & Maintenance  20 pax
Model Aircraft & Remote Control  64 pax
National Character & Leadership Symposium  4 pax.

There are another dozen or so activities like PJOC, UPT Fam, the flight academies, etc.

The largest are NBB and COS with 138 and 120, respectively.

(NCC is not included in the 2015 figures because of the strategic pause.)

For a total of 712 cadets for NCSAs in 2015.  Were still fudging the numbers for 2016.

What an effort put on by our volunteer CP leaders throughout the county!

Ned Lee
Col, CAP
National Cadet Program Manager

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Remind me why we call them Pax again? :P
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SGT, USMC
Former C/TSgt, CAP
Former C/MAJ, Army JROTC

Ned

They're very peaceful cadets, of course.

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I happened to be one the lucky ones to go to the National Character & Leadership Symposium. Depending on the amount of money available in the scholarship fund, which is funded by the Spaatz Association, is the amount of people that can attend. When I attended, about 7 of us were selected.
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conca27

I attended the Civil Engineering Academy this past year and we had 31 cadets and 6 seniors in attendance.
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How many cadets are getting alternate slots to those activities? Does anyone have a number applied/accepted list?

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Ned on November 03, 2015, 12:03:46 AM
For a total of 712 cadets for NCSAs in 2015.  Were still fudging the numbers for 2016.

What an effort put on by our volunteer CP leaders throughout the county!


Is that "actual" cadets, or slots?


Example: 1 cadet who goes to NBB, NESA, and COS in one summer.

MSG Mac

Quote from: Ned on November 03, 2015, 03:15:13 AM
They're very peaceful cadets, of course.

They're peaceful with you, because you're a Judge and can send them places no one wants to go to! A Special Special Activity.
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Lt Col CAP
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Ned

Quote from: Capt Hatkevich on November 03, 2015, 05:45:17 PM

Is that "actual" cadets, or slots?


Example: 1 cadet who goes to NBB, NESA, and COS in one summer.

That's slots, but this is where the numbers get a little tricky.  The 712 does not include the flight academies which were run as region activities this year.  If you count those, there are roughly 1,000 slots.  And our latest figures (including the flight academies) show well over 700 unique cadets.

Remember, the slotting software also biases against multiple "high request" NCSAs, making it very unlikely that a cadet will be able to attend more than one of the highest-speed NCSAs.  By the same token, if you request multiple NCSAs that are in less demand, you are more likely to get multiple NCSAs.


Paul Creed III

Cyber Defense Training Academy had 48 cadets, split between the Familiarization course and the Advanced course.

Quote from: Ned on November 03, 2015, 12:03:46 AM
Answers in RED, numbers are for cadet students only.  I.e., does not include seniors or cadet cadre types.   Nor does it include basic encampments put on by wings and regions (over 2,000 cadets).


Quote from: LSThiker on November 02, 2015, 11:20:51 PM
I am curious about the number of cadets that attend NCSAs each year, especially the "non-sexy" NCSAs.

That is, I know a few hundred attend NBB, NESA, Hawk, COS each and <100 for CLA, IACE,  AFSCFC.

How many cadets attend activities such as:
MKS Business 25 pax
Engineering Academy 
E-Tech 25 pax
Civil Engineering 40 pax
Advanced Technologies Academy  25 pax
Manufacturing & Maintenance  20 pax
Model Aircraft & Remote Control  64 pax
National Character & Leadership Symposium  4 pax.

There are another dozen or so activities like PJOC, UPT Fam, the flight academies, etc.

The largest are NBB and COS with 138 and 120, respectively.

(NCC is not included in the 2015 figures because of the strategic pause.)

For a total of 712 cadets for NCSAs in 2015.  Were still fudging the numbers for 2016.

What an effort put on by our volunteer CP leaders throughout the county!

Ned Lee
Col, CAP
National Cadet Program Manager
Lt Col Paul Creed III, CAP
Group 3 Ohio Wing sUAS Program Manager

Alaric

Quote from: Paul Creed III on November 04, 2015, 01:12:33 PM
Cyber Defense Training Academy had 48 cadets, split between the Familiarization course and the Advanced course.

Quote from: Ned on November 03, 2015, 12:03:46 AM
Answers in RED, numbers are for cadet students only.  I.e., does not include seniors or cadet cadre types.   Nor does it include basic encampments put on by wings and regions (over 2,000 cadets).


Quote from: LSThiker on November 02, 2015, 11:20:51 PM
I am curious about the number of cadets that attend NCSAs each year, especially the "non-sexy" NCSAs.

That is, I know a few hundred attend NBB, NESA, Hawk, COS each and <100 for CLA, IACE,  AFSCFC.

How many cadets attend activities such as:
MKS Business 25 pax
Engineering Academy 
E-Tech 25 pax
Civil Engineering 40 pax
Advanced Technologies Academy  25 pax
Manufacturing & Maintenance  20 pax
Model Aircraft & Remote Control  64 pax
National Character & Leadership Symposium  4 pax.

There are another dozen or so activities like PJOC, UPT Fam, the flight academies, etc.

The largest are NBB and COS with 138 and 120, respectively.

(NCC is not included in the 2015 figures because of the strategic pause.)

For a total of 712 cadets for NCSAs in 2015.  Were still fudging the numbers for 2016.

What an effort put on by our volunteer CP leaders throughout the county!

Ned Lee
Col, CAP
National Cadet Program Manager

How many Cadets went to NESA last year, or is that no longer an NCSA?

LSThiker

Quote from: Ned on November 03, 2015, 12:03:46 AM
How many cadets attend activities such as:
MKS Business 25 pax
Engineering Academy 
E-Tech 25 pax
Civil Engineering 40 pax
Advanced Technologies Academy  25 pax
Manufacturing & Maintenance  20 pax
Model Aircraft & Remote Control  64 pax
National Character & Leadership Symposium  4 pax.

There are another dozen or so activities like PJOC, UPT Fam, the flight academies, etc.

The largest are NBB and COS with 138 and 120, respectively.

For a total of 712 cadets for NCSAs in 2015.  Were still fudging the numbers for 2016.


Thanks Ned for the information. 

Actually, I was not all that concerned about the encampment numbers, NCC, or the flight academies.  I was curious about the "lesser" known activities.  That is, we all know about PJOC, NESA, COS, NBB and have plenty of people attending.  For my wing in particular, with the exception of 1 or 2, cadets only attend PJOC, NESA, COS, NBB, and Hawk.

Now that we are on the subject anyway, what are the numbers for:

NESA (or does CP not track these as the application is through the NESA?):
Hawk (combined) (or does CP not track these slots as it is through PAWG?):
PJOC:
UPT:
IACE:
CLA:
AFSCFC (combined):

Also, out of curiosity, is there a matrix that shows the acceptance rate for these activities?  With the obvious caveat that cadets may apply for 7 activities.

JC004

CLA does 24 cadets a year. 

Paul Creed III

Quote from: JC004 on November 04, 2015, 05:25:45 PM
CLA does 24 cadets a year.

On a related note, how many seniors are involved in that each year?

I'd like go one time during my senior member career. How does a senior throw their hat into the ring for that event?
Lt Col Paul Creed III, CAP
Group 3 Ohio Wing sUAS Program Manager

LSThiker

Quote from: Paul Creed III on November 04, 2015, 05:28:43 PM
How does a senior throw their hat into the ring for that event?

I think I have gotten asked that quite often.  For certain activities, it is easy as they have a call for senior applicants.  However, for others, it is not as often clear cut.  Usually it is best to email the activity director and ask.  I would be interested in attending AFSCFC as a senior member or even the Engineering Academy. 

A.Member

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Quote from: LSThiker on November 04, 2015, 02:41:51 PM
Now that we are on the subject anyway, what are the numbers for:

NESA (or does CP not track these as the application is through the NESA?):
Hawk (combined) (or does CP not track these slots as it is through PAWG?):
PJOC:
UPT:
IACE:
CLA:
AFSCFC (combined):

Also, out of curiosity, is there a matrix that shows the acceptance rate for these activities?  With the obvious caveat that cadets may apply for 7 activities.
PJOC (Kirtland AFB) had 66 cadets.  That was capacity for the course.  This has remained fairly consistent over the past several years. 

Note:  There is also APJOC, which has a lower capacity.  And last year D-M AFB hosted a second PJOC course with plans to alternate every other year between PJOC and APJOC offerings.
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sarmed1

If I recall the discussion correctly,  the slotting and payment for HMRS still goes thru the NCSA process including returning staff, so it should be tracked by NHQ.

mk
Capt.  Mark "K12" Kleibscheidel

Offutteer

The IACE web site shows the numbers that they send to each participating country.

http://ncsas.com/?international_air_cadet_exchange&show=career_fair&careerFairID=17

husker

Quote from: Alaric on November 04, 2015, 01:19:11 PM
Quote from: Paul Creed III on November 04, 2015, 01:12:33 PM
Cyber Defense Training Academy had 48 cadets, split between the Familiarization course and the Advanced course.

Quote from: Ned on November 03, 2015, 12:03:46 AM
Answers in RED, numbers are for cadet students only.  I.e., does not include seniors or cadet cadre types.   Nor does it include basic encampments put on by wings and regions (over 2,000 cadets).


Quote from: LSThiker on November 02, 2015, 11:20:51 PM
I am curious about the number of cadets that attend NCSAs each year, especially the "non-sexy" NCSAs.

That is, I know a few hundred attend NBB, NESA, Hawk, COS each and <100 for CLA, IACE,  AFSCFC.

How many cadets attend activities such as:
MKS Business 25 pax
Engineering Academy 
E-Tech 25 pax
Civil Engineering 40 pax
Advanced Technologies Academy  25 pax
Manufacturing & Maintenance  20 pax
Model Aircraft & Remote Control  64 pax
National Character & Leadership Symposium  4 pax.

There are another dozen or so activities like PJOC, UPT Fam, the flight academies, etc.

The largest are NBB and COS with 138 and 120, respectively.

(NCC is not included in the 2015 figures because of the strategic pause.)

For a total of 712 cadets for NCSAs in 2015.  Were still fudging the numbers for 2016.

What an effort put on by our volunteer CP leaders throughout the county!

Ned Lee
Col, CAP
National Cadet Program Manager

How many Cadets went to NESA last year, or is that no longer an NCSA?

According to my records, 165 unique cadets attended NESA last year. 
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Deputy Director, National Emergency Services Academy
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