Tracking Awards

[Devil Doc]

Hello,

Does anybody know which awards are tracked on Paperless Wing, or eServices? Also, Why are certain ones tracked, and certain ones are not?

[AlphaSigOU]

Other than the cadet milestone awards (Wright Brothers, Mitchell, Earhart, Eaker and Spaatz) and the Gill Robb Wilson, no other awards and decorations are currently tracked in eServices.

[KF6YVD]

If you log into E-Services and access your account, look at training under My Accomplishments.

Your professional development awards are tracked there.

[AlphaSigOU]

Totally forgot about the lesser PD awards, though they don't carry an award number like the GRW. The Yeager award also has a certificate number but it is not tracked in the accomplishments part of eServices.

[ColonelJack]

Totally forgot about the lesser PD awards, though they don't carry an award number like the GRW. The Yeager award also has a certificate number but it is not tracked in the accomplishments part of eServices.

Yeagers are numbered?  I didn't know that.  Mine's so old it's not even a Yeager ... it's an AEPSM Award.

Jack

[Devil Doc]

OK, so my next question is. How about the Comm Comm Award? or 2 year Serivce Ribbon? Or Find Ribbon. How is this tracked, and does it show up on a electronic form? eServices I am guessing you have to keep track of them yourself?

[Eclipse]

Track yourself - keep the 120.  No electronic tracking of decorations beyond the ones which have an activity,
test, or training tied to them, and then only in the abstract of that and not the dec itself.

[AlphaSigOU]

NHQ is supposedly rolling out a electronic CAPF 120 module for eServices later this year - not sure if - or how - the module will track decorations. Shouldn't be much of a stretch to create a module for service awards.

[Tim Medeiros]

NHQ is supposedly rolling out a electronic CAPF 120 module for eServices later this year - not sure if - or how - the module will track decorations. Shouldn't be much of a stretch to create a module for service awards.

No supposedly about it, it's currently on the test portal.


Just a note, currently Award Recommendation and Recommendation for Decoration point to the same page.

[Camas]

OK, so my next question is. How about the Comm Comm Award? or 2 year Serivce Ribbon? Or Find Ribbon. How is this tracked, and does it show up on a electronic form? eServices I am guessing you have to keep track of them yourself?

For most of these a CAPF2a is submitted and approved by the unit commander. It is then simply placed in the member's file and then he or she is good to go.  I'm sure there are exceptions but those are all covered in CAPR 39-3.

[Devil Doc]

Ok, So if somebody submitted you for a reward, and dont tell you, and or forgot, How do you know if it was Approved?

[LSThiker]

Ok, So if somebody submitted you for a reward, and dont tell you, and or forgot, How do you know if it was Approved?

Award, not reward.

However, you do not.  I have received Commander's Commendations 2, 3, 4 years after being awarded them.  I found out by accident really.  They were awarded, supposed to be mailed, but were forgotten about. 

[Devil Doc]

Ya, I am sorry, I am typing too fast yes AWARDED. So pretty much, there is no system like the military uses to track you awards?

[jeders]

Ya, I am sorry, I am typing too fast yes AWARDED. So pretty much, there is no system like the military uses to track you awards?

Exactly.

[Tim Medeiros]

So, I had the forethought to ask the devs working on the Awards Application a question along the lines of:

Finally, just a simple curious question, will there be a section in Member Search where we can see the decorations of the member we are viewing?

The response I received was:

Yes there will be a section in Member Search under the training tab that will display this information.

[AlphaSigOU]

Now for all previous awards prior to the rollout of the decorations module... will the personnel officer/director of personnel be able to manually input previous awards - of course, if the proper proof is submitted (award certificate, personnel authorization, etc.)?

[Tim Medeiros]

Now for all previous awards prior to the rollout of the decorations module... will the personnel officer/director of personnel be able to manually input previous awards - of course, if the proper proof is submitted (award certificate, personnel authorization, etc.)?

Last I heard, there will be a window in which certain personnel could enter old awards.

[James Shaw]

Hello,

Does anybody know which awards are tracked on Paperless Wing, or eServices? Also, Why are certain ones tracked, and certain ones are not?

The SMV, BMV, and DSA are tracked at NHQ but not online.

[Tim Medeiros]

Hello,

Does anybody know which awards are tracked on Paperless Wing, or eServices? Also, Why are certain ones tracked, and certain ones are not?

The SMV, BMV, and DSA are tracked at NHQ but not online.

With the online decorations application, those, plus Exceptional, Meritorious , Commanders Commendation (all levels), Life Saving, Achievement, and Unit Citation Awards are all tracked.  There is also a field for "other".  Hopefully items on the CAPF2a will follow suit later on.

[Eclipse]

Hello,

Does anybody know which awards are tracked on Paperless Wing, or eServices? Also, Why are certain ones tracked, and certain ones are not?

The SMV, BMV, and DSA are tracked at NHQ but not online.

With the online decorations application, those, plus Exceptional, Meritorious , Commanders Commendation (all levels), Life Saving, Achievement, and Unit Citation Awards are all tracked.  There is also a field for "other".  Hopefully items on the CAPF2a will follow suit later on.

How do we get historical awards into the system?

[lordmonar]

Now for all previous awards prior to the rollout of the decorations module... will the personnel officer/director of personnel be able to manually input previous awards - of course, if the proper proof is submitted (award certificate, personnel authorization, etc.)?

Last I heard, there will be a window in which certain personnel could enter old awards.

[Eclipse]

It would be nice if NHQ would allow say the wing Personnel Officer to just go in and click / date awards
substantiated locally without having to push a lot of paper up to NHQ.

[James Shaw]

It would be nice if NHQ would allow say the wing Personnel Officer to just go in and click / date awards
substantiated locally without having to push a lot of paper up to NHQ.

That would be a great idea.

[Tim Medeiros]

Hello,

Does anybody know which awards are tracked on Paperless Wing, or eServices? Also, Why are certain ones tracked, and certain ones are not?

The SMV, BMV, and DSA are tracked at NHQ but not online.

With the online decorations application, those, plus Exceptional, Meritorious , Commanders Commendation (all levels), Life Saving, Achievement, and Unit Citation Awards are all tracked.  There is also a field for "other".  Hopefully items on the CAPF2a will follow suit later on.

How do we get historical awards into the system?

Unfortunately I haven't been able to be on the last two calls due to work scheduling conflicts, so those details (if shared) are not yet known to me.  I'll ping some people and see what I can find out.

[jeders]

Bump.

Is there any news on the awards module?

[LegacyAirman]

For those of you familiar with the Air Force's vMPF (virtual Military Personnel Flight), it would be awesome if that module was anything like vMPF's Awards(?) module. Not only lists everything you've earned, but shows a graphic of your ribbon rack!

[MSG Mac]

Ok, So if somebody submitted you for a reward, and dont tell you, and or forgot, How do you know if it was Approved?

The Personnel Officer at each level involved is supposed to maintain an Awards log showing when the 120 was received, approved (or denied), forwarded to the next echelon, and returned to the issuer.

[Alaric]

Ok, So if somebody submitted you for a reward, and dont tell you, and or forgot, How do you know if it was Approved?

The Personnel Officer at each level involved is supposed to maintain an Awards log showing when the 120 was received, approved (or denied), forwarded to the next echelon, and returned to the issuer.

That's presuming a 120 is submitted, only the 8 decorations require a F120, the rest can be done on a 2a and do not need to go through the personnel officer

[Devil Doc]

Looking at Ribbons Today on Vanguard, Did the color of the Red Membership ribbon change? On Vanguard it shows a white ribbon, with red Middle, with Red and Black outer bands. On Wiki, it shows it shows a white ribbon with Red and Blue out bands, with a Red Center?

[SarDragon]

The version with the black is correct. That's what was in the original specification in the first 39-1 to have that set of ribbons. It was also black on the "cartoon" ribbons.

It's interesting that various pictures, including from Vanguard, show one end as blue.

[Eclipse]

Where are you guys looking?  Assuming no one has fixed it already, all I see are correct graphics in both places:

Wikipedia: 


Vanguard:


Edit:
I see you're talking the Red Service Ribbon:

Wikipedia (incorrect):



Vanguard (correct):

[Storm Chaser]

The colors on the illustration of the Red Service Ribbon in CAPR 39-3 correspond with the colors on Wikipedia.

The dark stripes on the Red Service Ribbon are supposed to be the same dark navy blue of the Encampment Ribbon, but Vanguard's are black instead.

[Eclipse]

The colors on the illustration of the Red Service Ribbon in CAPR 39-3 correspond with the colors in Wikipedia.

The dark stripes on the Red Service Ribbon are supposed to be the same dark navy blue of the Encampment Ribbon, but Vanguard's are black instead.

Interestingly, the graphic from 1998, though greyscale, would hardly seem to indicate "black" for the inside stripe,


but the 2000 Bookstore catalog is clearly black.

The dark stripes on the Red Service Ribbon are supposed to be the same dark navy blue of the Encampment Ribbon, but Vanguard's are black instead.

Can you cite any verbiage on the description? I can't find one anywhere.

This calls back to the utter lack of specifications for any of the insignia, badges or decorations.
You can't hold people accountable for things which have been done on a handshake and a prayer for decades.

[Storm Chaser]

I don't have any verbiage on ribbon description or colors, which usually supersedes any illustration. The lack of description would make the illustrations on the regulation the only published "standard", unless NHQ has a different document describing the ribbons and awards.

[SarDragon]

The colors on the illustration of the Red Service Ribbon in CAPR 39-3 correspond with the colors on Wikipedia.

The dark stripes on the Red Service Ribbon are supposed to be the same dark navy blue of the Encampment Ribbon, but Vanguard's are black instead.

What he said. My other sources agree. All the verbiage specifies blue. This includes older versions of the 39-3, and various scholarly works (Morse and Regan).

However comma all of my various versions of the actual Red Service ribbon, including the olde plastic one, have a black stripe.

[Storm Chaser]

The illustration of original Red Service Ribbon on these websites also appears to be a dark navy blue:
http://www.alternatewars.com/WW3/Civil_Defense/CD_Medals.htm

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=81907

In addition, this chart of senior member ribbons also displays the Red Service with similar dark blue color.


Of course, none of these are regulatory, which is why NHQ needs to have published standards on all awards and insignias.

[Eclipse]

Interesting - you have to wonder who made the first mistake and then why no one has noticed / corrected it.

[JC004]

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Of course, none of these are regulatory, which is why NHQ needs to have published standards on all awards and insignias.

I agree.  Vanguard has been improving.  I think they'd square away minor issues if CAP set the standard.  One thing that I am happy to see is the quality of my GBD badge (cloth) and aircrew wings (cloth) are much, much better than they've ever been.  I have a set of older Major cloth insignia that was at the squadron (Vanguard produced) and the embroidery on that has also greatly improved (on the older set, you can see some blue through the leaves). 

The wings I received are pre-sewn with 1/8" border, which is another change.  That said, sometimes things go back and forth with them and some minimal guidelines would help (NOT huge "CAP-SPEC" documents...keep it simple, but at least making sure the BDUs they carry are MIL-SPEC, the quality of products is consistent or improving, etc.). 

One issue that came to my attention recently was the Aviator Shirt purchased through Vanguard recently had epaulets that are too wide to make the shoulder marks/epaulet sleeves flush against the seam.