Tribal Logo?

[Mustang]

But is a "red propeller" trademarked or such by CAP?  If not, then it is fair game, even if CAP uses it.

Red three-bladed prop on a white triangle? CAP.
But, red two-bladed prop on a white circle? Probably not.
Red three-bladed prop, with one blade pointed DOWN, no white triangle? Beats the heck outta me who can or cannot claim that.

Two things:

CAP doesn't have to go through the trademark process to secure rights to emblems it uses, the federal law I cited earlier provides that protection simply upon adoption.

The accepted standard for copyright is that derived works must be 30% different from the original work. A three-bladed prop, yes--even one turned 120 degrees so that one blade is pointed downward.  A two-bladed prop, by itself, CAP probably cannot lay claim to.  A red two-bladed prop, probably not either, but you're getting dangerously close to infringement. Add wings to that red two-bladed prop, and you're absolutely infringing--it's the center of the enlisted cadet flight cap device.

[nmkaufman0]

The biggest problem with the hat is that it isn't going to mean anything to 99.9999% of the US population since it doesn't even mention CAP.  No one is going to associate it with us so it is an epic fail from a marketing point of view.

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How on earth did they come up with that logo anyway?

Maybe they imagined a cross between the CAP roundel, a hippie, and a sorry attempt at being "tribal".

[Eclipse]

Two things:

CAP doesn't have to go through the trademark process to secure rights to emblems it uses, the federal law I cited earlier provides that protection simply upon adoption.

The accepted standard for copyright is that derived works must be 30% different from the original work. A three-bladed prop, yes--even one turned 120 degrees so that one blade is pointed downward.  A two-bladed prop, by itself, CAP probably cannot lay claim to.  A red two-bladed prop, probably not either, but you're getting dangerously close to infringement. Add wings to that red two-bladed prop, and you're absolutely infringing--it's the center of the enlisted cadet flight cap device.

I think you'd have a hard time making the case that a 3-bladed prop, in and of itself, could be protected.  It's far too generic and is a functional part of too
many real aircraft.  I'd say 50-50 that a court challenge wound up with CAP losing on that.  Red, in a specific orientation, maybe.

But it would still take both sides caring enough to spend the money, and I'd say the big risk to CAP would be that the indices were created using government
funds and therefore should be in the public domain.

[NIN]

Instead of selling crap like this, why can't Vanguard provide some quality service?

Oh, whoops. Not the party line. NVM.

[Майор Хаткевич]

Instead of selling crap like this, why can't Vanguard provide some quality service?

Oh, whoops. Not the party line. NVM.

I've posted topics on my VG orders for a few years now. No issues at all since I turned SM in 2011.

[NIN]

Instead of selling crap like this, why can't Vanguard provide some quality service?

Oh, whoops. Not the party line. NVM.

I've posted topics on my VG orders for a few years now. No issues at all since I turned SM in 2011.

Put a VG order in last Friday. Got the notification it shipped THIS Friday.

Ordered some custom stuff from Spur Nametapes at the same time. I've had it for 4 days already. And shipping was $2.

We used Spur for years when we inprocessed new cadets and did our bulk insignia orders (prior to the C&D).