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ol'fido
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« on: November 16, 2011, 08:41:12 PM »

Thought I would share some of my WIWACs. Feel free to add your own.

When I Was A Cadet(WIWAC).....

1. We had c/Sgts, not c/SrAmn.

2. The shields on the cadet ranks were pinned on and not made a one piece.

3. Seniors wore the nylon flight jackets with the blues.

4. We sang very R-rated cadences at encampment.

5. We wore wing patches on everything( and I did so proudly and btw, hate the new IL wing patch)

6. c/MSgt was the most fun rank(six stripers ruled!)

7. Seniors smoked in front of cadets.

8. The majority of aircraft were member owned.

9. Wing HQ was the "black hole" for paperwork.

10. When we went anywhere, the Admin Officer typed up a set of travel orders.

Good times  ;D....great memories :'(.......
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2011, 09:02:44 PM »

When I Was A Cadet(WIWAC).....

1. We had c/Sgts, not c/SrAmn. We had C/1C at that level.

2. The shields on the cadet ranks were pinned on and not made a one piece. What shields? We sewed our rank on.

3. Seniors wore the nylon flight jackets with the blues.

4. We sang very R-rated cadences at encampment.

5. We wore wing patches on everything( and I did so proudly and btw, hate the new IL wing patch)

6. c/MSgt was the most fun rank(six stripers ruled!)

7. Seniors smoked in front of cadets. As did my wing commander. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/261546_2149415697475_1308838660_2638546_149504_n.jpg

8. The majority of aircraft were member owned.

9. Wing HQ was the "black hole" for paperwork.

10. When we went anywhere, the Admin Officer typed up a set of travel orders.

11. I have a Mitchell w/o a Curry. I did Phase 1 under the olde program, right before my squadron did the transition. My Mitchell got me C/MSgt.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 10:11:16 PM »

12. Cadets wore OD green fatigues and OD green jungle fatigues.
13. CAP aircraft were painted all different colors (My squadron plane was orange and white.)
14. Mitchell Award winners wore butter cups for rank.
15. C/Major and C/Lt.Col. could be given as discretionary ranks by the SQ CC.
16. Cadets only had 15 achievements.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 10:41:26 AM »

17. There was a short-sleeve option for fatigues.

18. My flight cap insignia was sewn on.

19. Florida Wing had a pregnant alligator.

20. There were like 4 cadet special activities.

21. Special activities were highly competitive.

22. Florida Wing had 2 and/or 3 summer encampments each year.

23. You had to attend ECSS for a week prior to being selected for encampment staff.

24. There was no CPPT.

25. We only had to run the mile run.

26. Cadets got called out on a regular basis for missions, even on school nights.

27. Safety?  What safety?

28. CAP Bookstore! Can't forget the Bookstore.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 12:55:09 PM »

28. Pilots wore smurff suits. Cadets wore them at the IL flight encampment with flight caps as well.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2011, 01:48:56 PM »

28. Pilots wore smurff suits. Cadets wore them at the IL flight encampment with flight caps as well.

Smurf Suits!!!!!  Man, that's when men were men.  When you can pull off wearing a smurf suit, you truly were a real man.  If I remember correctly, they were $25.
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2011, 02:56:50 PM »

I am a little younger than most of above posters, but I remember a few of the things you guys are saying...

5. We wore wing patches on everything.I joined when we still had wing patches on all uniforms.

7. Seniors smoked in front of cadets.Some of them at least


30. Leadership in the 21st Century was brand new.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2011, 03:11:32 PM »

The National Commander was an active duty Air Force Officer and the senior CAP Officer was the Chairman of the Board.
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2011, 03:13:35 PM »

32. Eaker Award didn't exist.  We wore a silver triangular clasp on our Earhart ribbon to denote completion of Phase IV.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2011, 03:39:53 PM »

A lot of these things aren't even from too long ago.  I joined as a cadet in '97.

We had C/Sgts.
We had C/FO for the Mitchell.
The Eaker didn't exist.
C/MSgt was 6 stripes down.
No C/SMSgt or C/CMSgt.
No Armstrong or Feik achievements.
CPFT was a point system with only 3 events.
The CPPT was really misunderstood.
The CAP Depot was around.
We ordered our insignia from the CAP bookstore, and it took longer than Vanguard.
There were 8 NCSAs and it was more expensive to attend than today.
CAP was "what you did" it wasn't #9 on the list of things to do.
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 03:48:54 PM »

The CAP Depot was around.

Loved the Depot!!!
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2011, 03:50:54 PM »

The only thing I really consider "ye olde" is the OD green fatigues I wore as a cadet in 1989.

I shed a tear for the Hock Shop and CAP Bookstore.
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2011, 03:55:12 PM »

The CPPT was really misunderstood.

So you're saying some things never change?
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2011, 05:26:39 PM »

The National Commander was an active duty Air Force Officer and the senior CAP Officer was the Chairman of the Board.

Frank Sinatra was running CAP?
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2011, 06:31:14 PM »

The National Commander was an active duty Air Force Officer and the senior CAP Officer was the Chairman of the Board.

Frank Sinatra was running CAP?
You got me thinking so I did a google search on "Frank Sinatra Civil Air Patrol". Results were pretty interesting!

I was never a cadet. I had friends who were cadets in the '90's (in michigan) at the time I was in high school and they seemed to really enjoy themselves. Always wished I had given it a shot.
They certainly did fly a LOT back then.
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2011, 07:10:06 PM »

Yeah we did.  I flew every Sunday as a cadet back then, sometimes in personal aircraft of SM's and sometimes in the CAP aircraft.
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2011, 08:34:17 PM »

Whenever one of the senior pilots did a proficiency flight in the O-1, I would run out to the airport and hop in the back.

33. Our ribbons had pictures on them and a little more character than the ones we have now.

34. We weren't supposed to blouse our trousers but we did whenever we had the chance.

35. You could wear low quarters with the pickle suits.

36. There was a beer machine in the encampment area at Volk.

37. I rode 300 miles to Chicago on the transmission hump of a compact Datsun for the Wing Conference.

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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2011, 09:22:35 PM »

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36. There was a beer machine in the encampment area at Volk.
Did it have Sapporo in it?
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37. I rode 300 miles to Chicago on the transmission hump of a compact Datsun for the Wing Conference.
See 27 - "Safety?  What safety?"
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2011, 09:46:44 PM »

28. Pilots wore smurff suits. Cadets wore them at the IL flight encampment with flight caps as well.

Smurf Suits!!!!!  Man, that's when men were men.  When you can pull off wearing a smurf suit, you truly were a real man.  If I remember correctly, they were $25.

The Smurf suit was $16.95, in the late '70s. Filled out an order blank, and never sent it in. Still have it, in my CAP "historical documents".
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2011, 10:34:49 PM »

37. I rode 300 miles to Chicago on the transmission hump of a compact Datsun for the Wing Conference.

SAR CAP in Daytona Beach.  A single senior member driving a 1983 Mazda B2000 pick-up truck.  1 Cadet in the cab, 5 in the back.  We drove down from Jacksonville (i.e. I-95 at 70 mph) in fatigues and gear.  The only flak we got was from the safety officer because we couldn't provide a vehicle check sheet upon arrival to mission base.  The 5 teenage cadets in the back and a single senior member didn't cause anyone to bat an eye.
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