With the complete transition by the Air Force to the ABU uniform, should the BDU uniform be reclassified as a corporate uniform?

There's been a lot of thoughts on that. IMO, this wouldn't happen unless we were able to wear ABUs. It does make some sense in that most of the AD forces are fully transitioned into other uniforms, and it would be distinctive. That being said, there's some solid logic in the thoughts that we don't need a field uniform for SAR that's camo and that the BBDUs are a better choice in that environment.

(Now that I've made the obvious and easy answer to this question, I'm going to sit back, grab some popcorn and watch as this thread devolves into another dead horse beating.)

Quote from: oak2007 on October 26, 2012, 04:54:46 PM
With the complete transition by the Air Force to the ABU uniform, should the BDU uniform be reclassified as a corporate uniform?

Thread, meet Dead Horse.


It is an Air Force Style Uniform. Our uniforms are controlled by the Air Force.

http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=14393.0

Search dead horse on captalk, and a 95%+ will be about ABU and a transition or the lack thereof.  We have also debated if BDU's would become a corporate uniform as you inquired.  The short answer: NOT BLOODY LIKELY.

Most excellent. 4/4 of responses either have a "dead horse" image or mention.

Quote from: usafaux2004 on October 26, 2012, 06:32:35 PM
Most excellent. 4/4 of responses either have a "dead horse" image or mention.

It is the official CAP Talk hearaldy symbol.

As long as any segment of the U.S. Military still uses them (and a very small number of USCG personnel do), it's not happening.

I don't think it is going to happen...because we are focusing on getting the ABUs and they are not worrying about what to do with the BDU or BBDUs until a decision on the ABUs is forthcomming.

I don't think it has any bearing on weather the National Parks service or anyone else is still wearing them.

Quote from: lordmonar on October 26, 2012, 07:29:40 PM
I don't think it is going to happen...because we are focusing on getting the ABUs and they are not worrying about what to do with the BDU or BBDUs until a decision on the ABUs is forthcomming.

I don't see us ever getting the ABU's, but that's a different breed of dead horse.

Quote from: CyBorg on October 26, 2012, 07:21:17 PM
As long as any segment of the U.S. Military still uses them (and a very small number of USCG personnel do), it's not happening.

...And a very large section of the USCG wears a uniform that looks almost exactly like the corporate Blue BDU, even down to white on blue tapes and badges, and i don't see a a resistance to wearing them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_Dress_Uniform

Quote from: CyBorg on October 26, 2012, 10:04:51 PM

Quote from: lordmonar on October 26, 2012, 07:29:40 PM
I don't think it is going to happen...because we are focusing on getting the ABUs and they are not worrying about what to do with the BDU or BBDUs until a decision on the ABUs is forthcomming.

I don't see us ever getting the ABU's, but that's a different breed of dead horse.

I wonder what the record is for the number of different dead horses beaten in one particular CAP Talk thread?

Quote from: FlyTiger77 on October 26, 2012, 10:06:47 PM

Quote from: CyBorg on October 26, 2012, 10:04:51 PM

Quote from: lordmonar on October 26, 2012, 07:29:40 PM
I don't think it is going to happen...because we are focusing on getting the ABUs and they are not worrying about what to do with the BDU or BBDUs until a decision on the ABUs is forthcomming.

I don't see us ever getting the ABU's, but that's a different breed of dead horse.

I wonder what the record is for the number of different dead horses beaten in one particular CAP Talk thread?

Should we go for a record? We should be pretty close by now. 

Quote from: Cool Mace on October 26, 2012, 10:37:47 PMShould we go for a record? We should be pretty close by now. 

Why waste the bandwidth? Twelve posts isn't even getting warmed up. There are threads on here, talking about BDUs, that have over 300 posts.

"waste" the bandwidth.. always makes me laugh anymore. It's not limited or anything. Not like there's a bank of it, the next guy will get some if you don't "use" it.

Quote from: SarDragon on October 26, 2012, 10:49:06 PM

Quote from: Cool Mace on October 26, 2012, 10:37:47 PMShould we go for a record? We should be pretty close by now. 

Why waste the bandwidth? Twelve posts isn't even getting warmed up. There are threads on here, talking about BDUs, that have over 300 posts.

I think he was talking about dead horse beating references. Not posts.

Quote from: RogueLeader on October 27, 2012, 12:57:53 AM

Quote from: SarDragon on October 26, 2012, 10:49:06 PM

Quote from: Cool Mace on October 26, 2012, 10:37:47 PMShould we go for a record? We should be pretty close by now. 

Why waste the bandwidth? Twelve posts isn't even getting warmed up. There are threads on here, talking about BDUs, that have over 300 posts.

I think he was talking about dead horse beating references. Not posts.

I'm sure some of those previously mentioned threads have far more dead horse references than this one.

Dave,

Maybe send a PM to all new users. You know the standard "Welcome to CT, read our conditions and standards boards, be adverarial if you must but be polite, use good grammar and spelling(as much as possible), and by the way, if you want to ask about ABUs, BDUs, or any other camouflage uniform in a CAP context, please check out the 50-60 other threads on here that deal with this subject. If you do ask the "when or if" question, please prepare to be flamed. Thank you for visiting CT". 

Randy

I have a slightly variable canned Grammar Cop PM that I send out to likely candidates. I get three responses: Thank you, Piss off, and Excuses why they can't make readable posts. Occasionally, someone will even accuse me of picking on them, and threaten to complain to the Mods.

That said, I am not a Mod. I have their ear, and have reported posts, and made other recommendations (Tick-tock comes to mind), but I have no power beyond that.

Your suggested message is hilarious, but I think it would ultimately fail. If we can't get compliance with a gently worded public post, or the more harshly worded public humiliation rendered after many more gentle hints, a PM will be a wasted effort.

I am so tired of the uniform whining and begging for something new or the ABU's or whatever. I just want to be like listen, be quiet and be happy you're part of a cool organization that actually WEARS a uniform, or many rather. Enjoy what you do, stop complaining. They are perfectly functional uniform for what we do.

I do agree with most that woodland BDU doesn't make a lot of sense being in the woods TRYING to be seen, and that the BBDU would be a better option for that, but frankly, I don't care. I'll wear what I'm told to. Besides, I spend most of my cap time in my flight suit in a cockpit. Yippie. The fact is if we are going to wear a uniform at all, someone, somewhere, whether it be special forces, regular military, or law enforcement, is going to be wearing the same thing.

/rant