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Cadet Programs => Encampments & NCSAs => Topic started by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 03:43:20 PM

Title: NESA
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 03:43:20 PM
What are your thoughts of it, have you ever been to NESA,.
Can you go to an encampment then NESA  if you have never been to encampment.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: Polecat on May 28, 2009, 05:33:56 PM
It has not.
Started for this year.
So I wouldn't.
Know until July 11.
Ask again later.
With complete.
Sentences.
And I will.
Reply to your.
Question.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: davidsinn on May 28, 2009, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 03:43:20 PM
What are your thoughts of it, have you ever been to NESA,.
Can you go to an encampment then NESA  if you have never been to encampment.

I wouldn't worry about either until you have your Curry because that is a requirement for both.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: davidsinn on May 28, 2009, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 03:43:20 PM
What are your thoughts of it, have you ever been to NESA,.
Can you go to an encampment then NESA  if you have never been to encampment.

I wouldn't worry about either until you have your Curry because that is a requirement for both.
Okay.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: Polecat on May 28, 2009, 06:11:27 PM
Thank you for making complete sentences and using propper punctuation. I will let you know when I get back from NESA.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: Larry Mangum on May 28, 2009, 07:13:40 PM
Encampment attendance is not a prerequiste for attending NESA, however I would suspect that very few wing commander's will approve someone to attend who has not completed an encampment.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: GoofyOne on May 28, 2009, 07:39:03 PM
Quote from: Polecat on May 28, 2009, 06:11:27 PM
Thank you for making complete sentences and using propper punctuation. I will let you know when I get back from NESA.

don't you mean "proper".  :)
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 07:39:25 PM
Quote from: Who_knows? on May 28, 2009, 07:13:40 PM
Encampment attendance is not a prerequiste for attending NESA, however I would suspect that very few wing commander's will approve someone to attend who has not completed an encampment.

Since NESA is a NCSA, wouldn't you need an encampment under your belt before attending?
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: davidsinn on May 28, 2009, 08:23:50 PM
Quote from: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 07:39:25 PM
Quote from: Who_knows? on May 28, 2009, 07:13:40 PM
Encampment attendance is not a prerequiste for attending NESA, however I would suspect that very few wing commander's will approve someone to attend who has not completed an encampment.

Since NESA is a NCSA, wouldn't you need an encampment under your belt before attending?

It's not technically an NCSA because it's geared more towards SM. Yes cadets go but there aren't many cadets that are eligible to be aircrew or GTL.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 08:26:34 PM
I understand that, but it is listed as an NCSA on the NHQ site, and you get an NCSA ribbon for attending....
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: Larry Mangum on May 28, 2009, 08:33:03 PM
According to John Desmarais from NHQ, encampment is not a prerequisite for cadets.  A lot of cadets do attend for GTM training.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: Hoorah on May 28, 2009, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: Who_knows? on May 28, 2009, 08:33:03 PM
According to John Desmarais from NHQ, encampment is not a prerequisite for cadets.  A lot of cadets do attend for GTM training.
Was that 2009.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: Who_knows? on May 28, 2009, 08:33:03 PM
According to John Desmarais from NHQ, encampment is not a prerequisite for cadets.  A lot of cadets do attend for GTM training.

Weird. That's cool though. Maybe it should count as an encampment?
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: Larry Mangum on May 28, 2009, 08:36:58 PM
Quote from: capcadetwilliams on May 28, 2009, 08:34:29 PM
Quote from: Who_knows? on May 28, 2009, 08:33:03 PM
According to John Desmarais from NHQ, encampment is not a prerequisite for cadets.  A lot of cadets do attend for GTM training.
Was that 2009.

Yes
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
You would, however, need to be at least a C/Amn with your GES rating to do any sort of ES Training.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: arajca on May 28, 2009, 10:41:22 PM
Quote from: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: Who_knows? on May 28, 2009, 08:33:03 PM
According to John Desmarais from NHQ, encampment is not a prerequisite for cadets.  A lot of cadets do attend for GTM training.

Weird. That's cool though. Maybe it should count as an encampment?
No. Encampment has a specific set of training requirements that cannot be met at NESA.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 10:43:10 PM
Quote from: arajca on May 28, 2009, 10:41:22 PM
Quote from: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: Who_knows? on May 28, 2009, 08:33:03 PM
According to John Desmarais from NHQ, encampment is not a prerequisite for cadets.  A lot of cadets do attend for GTM training.

Weird. That's cool though. Maybe it should count as an encampment?
No. Encampment has a specific set of training requirements that cannot be met at NESA.

Back before I was a cadet, I would hear of people attending "Aerospace Encampments" or "Leadership Encampments". Maybe that's something that can be brought back, and NESA can be an "ES Encampment..."

But that's a post for another thread...
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: whatevah on May 28, 2009, 10:47:33 PM
well, an "ES Encampment" would have to satisfy all of the requirements in the regulations plus the training already offered.  You'd be looking at a 10day encampment...   Not gonna happen.
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: whatevah on May 28, 2009, 10:47:33 PM
well, an "ES Encampment" would have to satisfy all of the requirements in the regulations plus the training already offered.  You'd be looking at a 10day encampment...   Not gonna happen.

Maybe a reg change is in order... Just thinking outside the box here. Carry on!
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: whatevah on May 28, 2009, 10:52:40 PM
ok, what would you remove from the minimum requirements?
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: BrandonKea on May 28, 2009, 10:56:35 PM
Quote from: whatevah on May 28, 2009, 10:52:40 PM
ok, what would you remove from the minimum requirements?

I might just have to look at that more in depth and get back to you :-)
Title: Re: NESA
Post by: whatevah on May 28, 2009, 11:01:58 PM
ok :)

CAPR 52-16 (http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/R052_016_9D037830938CC.pdf)  Figure 5-1