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Operations => Aerospace Education => Topic started by: Walkman on November 02, 2007, 10:06:48 PM

Title: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: Walkman on November 02, 2007, 10:06:48 PM
Our Chaplian works in IT for ATK Launch Systems, the guys that make the space shuttle's booster and are building the next gen ARES rocket (formerly Thoikol).

(http://www.eurekaville.com/yay_images/CVCS-Cadets.jpg)

He set up a great full day AE event for us. First we visited the Rocket Garden, which is an outdoor history of the engines ATK has built over the years (including Gemini & Apollo). We then had a presentation from a engineer on the history and future of space exploration. Jose Montero was a child in Costa Rica when Armstrong & Co. landed, and that inspired his rag-to-riches American Dream story.

Following Montero, we had Kent Rominger speak to us. Kent was a Navy test pilot that went on command 5 shuttle missions to the ISS. He spoke about life as an astronaut and showed some incredible pictures taken from the shuttle & ISS. HE spoke to us for about 35 minute and answered a ton of questions. Great guy, his dad was in CAP.

Following lunch, our champion Color Guard performed an opening flag ceremony for that day's rocket engine static test. That baby burned for about 4 minutes. Lots of smoke & noise. That blast was so bright, it hurt my eyes even though we were about 1/2 mile away.

(http://www.eurekaville.com/yay_images/Rocket_test.jpg)

We finished up by directing traffic out of the test area.

AND, we made the front page of today's paper with a story about our cadets providing service (they used a pix of me as well!).

All in all, awesome day.
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: SJFedor on November 03, 2007, 05:16:33 AM
As long as no one gets hurt, it'd be kinda funny to watch the static booster rocket break loose and go flying around.

Sounds really neat, why wasn't I invited?
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: Major Lord on November 03, 2007, 05:42:21 AM
Who is the one with the illegally tucked boots, black beret, and sleeves rolled too high?  Bad, bad Cadet!

Major Lord
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: Walkman on November 03, 2007, 06:35:20 AM
Quote from: Major Lord on November 03, 2007, 05:42:21 AM
Who is the one with the illegally tucked boots, black beret, and sleeves rolled too high?  Bad, bad Cadet!

Major Lord

c/TSGT "C". Actually, it's a Blue Beret (think he's been twice...). He's pretty Hoo-ah. Turns 18 soon, heading into the Marine Infantry.

How can you tell his boots are wrong from that crappy pic? 'Course, it could be obvious, but I wouldn't be able to tell anyway, I'm still the new guy. ;D
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: Major Lord on November 03, 2007, 03:41:12 PM
Quote from: Walkman on November 03, 2007, 06:35:20 AM
Quote from: Major Lord on November 03, 2007, 05:42:21 AM
Who is the one with the illegally tucked boots, black beret, and sleeves rolled too high?  Bad, bad Cadet!

Major Lord

c/TSGT "C". Actually, it's a Blue Beret (think he's been twice...). He's pretty Hoo-ah. Turns 18 soon, heading into the Marine Infantry.

How can you tell his boots are wrong from that crappy pic? 'Course, it could be obvious, but I wouldn't be able to tell anyway, I'm still the new guy. ;D

After a while, you can smell when the cadets are tucking in boots, "ranger rolling" their covers, or sewing backwards flags on in your sleep. Remember, the cadets may look cute, but they will kill you and everyone you love given half a chance....
I wish this cadet the best of luck and happy hunting in the Corp. I can forgive his uniform faux pas if he is dedicated to serving his Country and the USMC!

Major Lord
America! Foxtrot Yankee!
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: NIN on November 03, 2007, 09:58:44 PM
Quote from: Major Lord on November 03, 2007, 05:42:21 AM
Who is the one with the illegally tucked boots, black beret, and sleeves rolled too high?  Bad, bad Cadet!

There is a law against tucked boots?

Against regulations or policy, maybe. Illegal? Doubtful.

Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: floridacyclist on November 03, 2007, 11:34:50 PM
AIR FORCE INSTRUCTION 36-2903, DRESS AND PERSONAL APPEARANCE
OF AIR FORCE PERSONNEL (http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfiles/af/36/afi36-2903/afi36-2903.pdf)

"Blouse trousers over combat boots or tuck trousers into boots to give a bloused effect. Blousing is defined as: to gather in and drape loosely (cannot be folded or have a tapered look)".

I can't see if his trouser legs are tapered, but I see no problem with tucking them in...it's how I've done mine since I was a cadet.
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: jimmydeanno on November 04, 2007, 01:35:59 AM
Hey...that's not our uniform manual...
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: floridacyclist on November 04, 2007, 01:48:25 AM
Do you have a different definition of blousing that contradicts that?
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: jimmydeanno on November 04, 2007, 02:30:40 AM
No, I was just giving you a hard time :)
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: JC004 on November 04, 2007, 02:32:28 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on November 04, 2007, 02:30:40 AM
No, I was just giving you a hard time :)

As you well should.  FLWG people are trouble.   ;)
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: Eclipse on November 04, 2007, 03:52:02 AM
Quote from: floridacyclist on November 04, 2007, 01:48:25 AM
Do you have a different definition of blousing that contradicts that?

Yes - at least in as much as ticking in your trousers without the bloused effect is not correct.

If your pants look like Laura Petrie's leggings, you're not doing it correctly.
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: Dad2-4 on November 04, 2007, 03:35:48 PM
"Who's Laura Petrie?" is what some cadets and younger SMs may ask. Quick, who can Wiki it first? ;D
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: Eclipse on November 04, 2007, 04:37:18 PM
http://www.tvacres.com/clothing_pants_laurapetrie.htm

(http://www.tvacres.com/capri_pants2.jpg)
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: floridacyclist on November 04, 2007, 09:46:46 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 04, 2007, 03:52:02 AM
Quote from: floridacyclist on November 04, 2007, 01:48:25 AM
Do you have a different definition of blousing that contradicts that?

Yes - at least in as much as ticking in your trousers without the bloused effect is not correct.

If your pants look like Laura Petrie's leggings, you're not doing it correctly.

You mean like how the reg states that the pants will not be folded or have a tapered look? I think that's pretty clear.

To return to topic, someone mentioned how bright it was..I remember seeing videotape of LOX-aided fires and how they always made the camera go dark. THere used to be a professor who started charcoal grills with LOX (it started as a contest at the school of engineering to see who could get a grill going fastest) and it had the same effect.
Title: Re: AE is a blast literally (pix included)
Post by: NIN on November 04, 2007, 10:32:17 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 04, 2007, 03:52:02 AM
Yes - at least in as much as ticking in your trousers without the bloused effect is not correct.

If your pants look like Laura Petrie's leggings, you're not doing it correctly.

Jeez, Bob, you're really showing your age with that one. I'm only a year younger and it nearly went over my head.

:)

Back in my day in the Army, "blousing" was accomplished w/o blousing bands, etc. They wanted you to tuck your trousers into your boot and that was that. (early days of BDUs) I had been a cadet for 5 years, so I had blousing rubbers and preferred that method. I felt that it did a better, cleaner job and didn't cut off my circulation like having an extra layer or two of trouser fabric stuffed into my boot tops.  We were cautioned to avoid the so-called "peg leg" look (also referred to as the "George Washington look" but I never quite got that..) and to just have them blouse/hang naturally.

This one young SP4 in our personnel services company when I was in Korea liked to peg-leg and WRAP his trousers around his leg. (imagine pegging your BDUs at the bottom, and then wrapping the extra fabric from all the way up the leg from the back to the front, so that it folded your cargo pocket nearly in half.)  The guy looked like MC Hammer in BDUs.  He even pinned the extra material around the knees so it wouldn't "fall out" during the day. It just looked... stupid.

So he got told "Stop doing that, its not per AR 670-1."  (he also had very stylish glasses with letters adorning the lenses, multiple rings per hand, etc, necklaces showing at the collar, etc.)  He didn't listen.  Then one day he was a rather chastened looking PFC instead of an SP4.  He wasn't wearing all the rest of his BS bling-bling.

Sucks when you get a field-grade article 15 and they take a stripe and some pay 'cuz you wanted to be stylish..