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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: diegoochoaaa on July 26, 2017, 05:26:05 PM

Title: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: diegoochoaaa on July 26, 2017, 05:26:05 PM
I just graduated BGSAR at NESA and saw pretty much all of the instructors wear the ES dog patch along with their ground team badge, am I allowed to wear that patch? I've looked for a clear answer but haven't seen anything. Thank you!
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on July 26, 2017, 05:35:45 PM
You will be qualified to request it after NESA staff logs the completion of your ES qualification on your Ops Qual record. They may have already posted you qualify for it. However ask your squadron staff, specifically your ES Officer or your squadron commander. They should be the people to answer your question.
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on July 26, 2017, 05:50:34 PM
Will send you a personal message.
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: Abby.L on July 26, 2017, 06:04:36 PM
Once you have GES and one other qualification(MRO, GTM, etc) you will be able to request authorization to wear the ES patch via E-Services. You can wear either the dog patch or the Plane patch. They are both equally authorized, and equally respectable. Don't let anyone tell you which one to wear just because of their feelings towards one vs the other.  ::)
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: Eclipse on July 26, 2017, 06:58:32 PM
It also qualifies the wearer to an atomic wedgie in perpetuity.

Friends don't let friends SARDOG.
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: County on July 26, 2017, 07:17:37 PM
Anyone know why there's two different patches available for ES?
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on July 26, 2017, 07:22:20 PM
Because people liking either are evenly divided on which one is best... or nicer...
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: Spaceman3750 on July 26, 2017, 07:37:17 PM
"Pretty much all of the instructors" might be a bit of a stretch...
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on July 26, 2017, 07:44:13 PM
Were you there...?

You should have posted that in your message...
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: diegoochoaaa on July 26, 2017, 08:26:42 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on July 26, 2017, 07:37:17 PM
"Pretty much all of the instructors" might be a bit of a stretch...
Sorry I was a bit vague, I mean all the cadet instructors in BGSAR.


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Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on July 26, 2017, 08:44:47 PM
Diego-

Did you post earlier as "iicookieiiz?"

If so, in the future don't change names when people are sending you messages...  ;D

How did you find NESA? Was it fun?
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: kwe1009 on July 26, 2017, 08:56:59 PM
If you have ABUs then neither ES patch is authorized.  Only the BDU and BBDU can have the patch.
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: diegoochoaaa on July 26, 2017, 08:58:56 PM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on July 26, 2017, 08:44:47 PM
Diego-

Did you post earlier as "iicookieiiz?"

If so, in the future don't change names when people are sending you messages...  ;D

How did you find NESA? Was it fun?
Yes I did change my name, I apologize for any confusion I gave you. NESA was a lot of fun! It was definitely a mental and physical challenge as we were in the field for most of the day and constantly working, but I enjoyed it.


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Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: Eclipse on July 26, 2017, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: County on July 26, 2017, 07:17:37 PM
Anyone know why there's two different patches available for ES?

The other one gets you Wet Willie's.

Cadets like patches is the explanation.
Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: husker on July 27, 2017, 01:57:16 AM
Quote from: diegoochoaaa on July 26, 2017, 08:58:56 PM
NESA was a lot of fun! It was definitely a mental and physical challenge as we were in the field for most of the day and constantly working, but I enjoyed it.
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That is good to hear.  Exactly what we strive for.

As for the patch, you should be able to wear it.  All tasks and ratings from this year's activity have already been uploaded into OpsQuals.  However, just because you can wear it does not mean you have to.  Many of us are minimalists - we only wear what is required.   In my opinion, neither patch looks good, and is redundant if you are wearing your rating badge.  Eclipse does have a point.

Title: Re: ES "Dog" Patch
Post by: husker on July 27, 2017, 01:58:23 AM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on July 26, 2017, 07:37:17 PM
"Pretty much all of the instructors" might be a bit of a stretch...

Exactly