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Title: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: jfkspotting on May 08, 2017, 12:16:38 AM
Good evening:

Let's make a census of where our
-16X GA-8
-35X C206
and *?*X C185
are located, nationwide in Civil Air Patrol.

Among all the Cessna 172/182, it's nice to see one of the aforementioned three flying around!
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: chuckmilam on May 08, 2017, 12:42:19 PM
My OPSEC sense is tingling. 
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on May 08, 2017, 12:47:08 PM
I thought there is a link where you sign in and you get that info. On your eServices...

Cannot find it...
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Nick on May 08, 2017, 12:54:16 PM
http://capnhq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1805/~/location-and-type-of-cap-aircraft


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Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: SarDragon on May 08, 2017, 09:26:27 PM
What are these numbers, and where did you get them?
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: jfkspotting on May 09, 2017, 02:04:44 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on May 08, 2017, 09:26:27 PM
What are these numbers, and where did you get them?

Found it in a PDF... https://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/DO04_Aircraft_Ops__StanEval__3_Aug__641678DAAEA2E.pdf

GO TO PAGE 6/7
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: jfkspotting on May 09, 2017, 02:15:03 AM
Quote from: Nick on May 08, 2017, 12:54:16 PM
http://capnhq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1805/~/location-and-type-of-cap-aircraft


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That doesn't work. I'm in the new eservices and maintenance module makes me select a wing and doesn't give types, instead just tail#'s.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: A.Member on May 09, 2017, 02:46:06 AM
Quote from: maddoggy on May 08, 2017, 12:16:38 AM
Let's make a census of where our
-16X GA-8
-35X C206
and *?*X C185
are located, nationwide in Civil Air Patrol.
For what possible purpose?!  Those that need to know, know where to find this info in eServices/WMIRS.  Resources and status are regularly maintained there.

I get that you're young and excited about aviation.  That's awesome - keep it up.  Just slow your roll on the posting.  Spend more time reading and researching first.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: kwe1009 on May 09, 2017, 04:51:37 PM
What if the North Koreans get ahold of this information?   >:D
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 09, 2017, 05:19:45 PM
Quote from: kwe1009 on May 09, 2017, 04:51:37 PM
What if the North Koreans get ahold of this information?   >:D


They might get jealous, demand Cessna's instead of food aid, and some of those spiffy Japanese CAP outfits?
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Shieldel on May 09, 2017, 06:46:34 PM
Yeah that's an OPSEC concern. I remember being a young enthusiastic cadet myself (Circa 2011 as a wee Airman Basic) but you have to understand assets are important, thus the staging locations are important. Southern Nevada's aircraft are behind a barbed fence. Please don't push your question.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Eclipse on May 09, 2017, 06:58:44 PM
+1 And before the "what's the big deal wonks" start posting about how it's info you
could "probably find on the web somewhere"".  So be it, let people do their own work.

As we're told time and again.  Any single piece of info in and of itself may not be "the piece",
but "a little here" and "a little there" paints pictures.

Neither you, nor CAPTalk, wants to be the guy that adds the last detail to "whatever".

The people who need to know this kind of thing, know, and for anyone else, it's info not of anything but trivial value.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: NIN on May 10, 2017, 12:18:07 AM
Quote from: Майор Хаткевич on May 09, 2017, 05:19:45 PM
Quote from: kwe1009 on May 09, 2017, 04:51:37 PM
What if the North Koreans get ahold of this information?   >:D


They might get jealous, demand Cessna's instead of food aid, and some of those spiffy Japanese CAP outfits?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maF-5PHUyTI

"No smoking within 50 feet of the airplane, Dear Leader."
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on May 10, 2017, 12:25:38 AM
Very nice editing.

When it started rolling, it appeared that he was alone in the airplane. So I will do what everyone did!

:clap:

Then when the airplane finally took off, it appeared the airplane... had passengers in the back. Was I wrong? This shot went away so fast I was not able to see Dear Leader on the cockpit...

8)

Was it editing magic?

:)

Am I wrong...?

>:D

Will they lob a nuclear at me for posting this...?

:P
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: NIN on May 10, 2017, 12:32:29 AM
I especially enjoyed his lecture on crosswind technique near the end.

Mine needs work, so having the Dear Leader provide spot guidance was helpful.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: A.Member on May 10, 2017, 01:37:47 AM
I thought he may've been talking about weight and balance issues and how he had to keep on the pedals to keep it straight.

Did Dear Leader fly with that coat on?  He is a marvel.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: SarDragon on May 10, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
That's a 206, with four or five people in it. The climb after rotation was really slow. I was in a CAP 206 three weekends ago, with three people, and it climbed a whole lot faster.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: PHall on May 10, 2017, 02:27:52 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on May 10, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
That's a 206, with four or five people in it. The climb after rotation was really slow. I was in a CAP 206 three weekends ago, with three people, and it climbed a whole lot faster.

You're not using Rice Wine for fuel! >:D
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: NIN on May 10, 2017, 12:24:33 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on May 10, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
That's a 206, with four or five people in it. The climb after rotation was really slow. I was in a CAP 206 three weekends ago, with three people, and it climbed a whole lot faster.

Thats definitely not a 206.

You want to watch a 206 climb? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QYLyP71mIA
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on May 10, 2017, 12:26:21 PM
Did he do a lecture on crosswind? Or was he doing a lecture on hotwind?

Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: NIN on May 10, 2017, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on May 10, 2017, 12:26:21 PM
Did he do a lecture on crosswind? Or was he doing a lecture on hotwind?

The reason you see everybody with notebooks is because whenever the Dear Leader is at one of these things, he's issuing "spot guidance." In other words: the Dear Leader clearly is the *expert* in everything, so when he comes and tells you how to do something, you better write that down!

And don't be seen not writing every utterance of the Dear Leader down, lest you find yourself farming rice in a gulag on the Yalu, or worse.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: jeders on May 10, 2017, 01:16:06 PM
I'm not sure which would be more entertaining to hear, an actual translation of that video or a Mystery Science Theater 3000 style dubbing.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Spaceman3750 on May 10, 2017, 02:04:18 PM
So I asked a coworker who speaks a little Korean to take a look at it. He said the gist is "everyone gathers around to witness supreme leader's first flight" but by his own admission he's pretty rusty. He might take a closer look at it tonight.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Eclipse on May 10, 2017, 03:08:07 PM
You're the Dear Leader of the "greatest, most powerful nation on earth" and you cram yourself into a crowded, old Cessna?

If that were me I wouldn't be flying, or flying in, anything that didn't have meal service and a head.

He's perfect, so he can fly whatever he wants.

He should be in Air Force Un!

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/see-inside-kim-jong-uns-remodeled-air-force-one-1685921910
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Spaceman3750 on May 10, 2017, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 10, 2017, 03:08:07 PM
He should be in Air Force Un!

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/see-inside-kim-jong-uns-remodeled-air-force-one-1685921910

Hey look, more pointing and notebooks. Maybe that really is a thing.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 10, 2017, 06:25:34 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on May 10, 2017, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 10, 2017, 03:08:07 PM
He should be in Air Force Un!

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/see-inside-kim-jong-uns-remodeled-air-force-one-1685921910 (http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/see-inside-kim-jong-uns-remodeled-air-force-one-1685921910)

Hey look, more pointing and notebooks. Maybe that really is a thing.


It actually, truly is. He provides guidance on all things because he is all knowing SME.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: SarDragon on May 10, 2017, 06:47:00 PM
Quote from: NIN on May 10, 2017, 12:24:33 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on May 10, 2017, 02:06:08 AM
That's a 206, with four or five people in it. The climb after rotation was really slow. I was in a CAP 206 three weekends ago, with three people, and it climbed a whole lot faster.

Thats definitely not a 206.

You want to watch a 206 climb? [video deleted]

Then what is it? There are five people in it, and the windows look right. There seems to be a difference with the doors, but everything else looks right.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Phillip on May 10, 2017, 07:41:53 PM
It's definitely a 172.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Eclipse on May 10, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
Quote from: Phillip on May 10, 2017, 07:41:53 PM
It's definitely a 172.

Great Leader only flies 173.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: NIN on May 10, 2017, 08:36:17 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 10, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
Quote from: Phillip on May 10, 2017, 07:41:53 PM
It's definitely a 172.

Great Leader only flies 173.

220, 221, whatever it takes.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: SarDragon on May 10, 2017, 08:37:59 PM
Quote from: Phillip on May 10, 2017, 07:41:53 PM
It's definitely a 172.

Well, I checked out the windows again, and I'll buy 172. But it sure looks like there are three rows of people in that plane. And flies like it. So shoot me.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on May 10, 2017, 10:29:01 PM
Aha!

One of my questions was answered!

But was Great Leader piloting it? When he started taxing, Great Leader was alone. Then they moved away, showed the two or three rows of people but did not show the pilot!

Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Phillip on May 10, 2017, 11:04:41 PM
I think what's throwing a lot of people off is that the second row of seats have a high back to them and the people in them are leaning forward.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on May 10, 2017, 11:15:59 PM
So they are leaning forward to help the plane fly? Did they raise their legs as well?

:clap:
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Phillip on May 11, 2017, 03:53:27 PM
Probably leaning forward to get into the brace position.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: sar_one on May 31, 2017, 07:06:31 PM
For what its worth, I followed these instructions and didn't have the Matrix listed, so I submitted a trouble call saying the directions were not accurate, only to be told I didn't have access to the Matrix and Wing commanders need to approve. Not the easiest thing to explain to leadership why they should spend time approving me just to see where the planes are at...Oh well.

Quote from: jfkspotting on May 09, 2017, 02:15:03 AM
Quote from: Nick on May 08, 2017, 12:54:16 PM
http://capnhq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1805/~/location-and-type-of-cap-aircraft


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That doesn't work. I'm in the new eservices and maintenance module makes me select a wing and doesn't give types, instead just tail#'s.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Eclipse on May 31, 2017, 07:10:38 PM
Quote from: sar_one on May 31, 2017, 07:06:31 PMNot the easiest thing to explain to leadership why they should spend time approving me just to see where the planes are at...Oh well.

That's because it's information that neither you, nor the majority of the rank and file need.

Those that need it, get it as a matter of their position appointment.
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: Spam on June 01, 2017, 01:48:40 AM
That looked like an AN-2 in the background, right at the end.

... er, excuse please. That was the "Great Patriotic Seventh Gen Stealth Bomber", to be sure.


Cheers
Spam
Title: Re: Which Squadrons have C206, C185 and Ga-8 Airvans?
Post by: SarDragon on June 01, 2017, 09:06:38 AM
Are we done here?

Yeah, we're done.

Click...