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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: flyguy06 on June 03, 2007, 02:28:23 AM

Title: CAP Instructor pilot
Post by: flyguy06 on June 03, 2007, 02:28:23 AM
What are the duties of a CAP Instructor Pilot andhow do they differ from a CAP Check Pilot?
Title: Re: CAP Instructor pilot
Post by: flynd94 on June 03, 2007, 05:23:11 AM
Easy, a CAP IP can give instruction in CAP aircraft (Form 5 prep, training towards FAA Cert, BFR's, High Perf Training, etc).  A CAP Check Pilot can do all that plus actually give you a Form 5 or Form 91, depending on which they are authorized to do.  Clear as mud??
Title: Re: CAP Instructor pilot
Post by: mdickinson on June 03, 2007, 12:40:59 PM
Quote from: flynd94 on June 03, 2007, 05:23:11 AM
a CAP IP can give instruction in CAP aircraft [...].  A CAP Check Pilot can do all that plus actually give you a Form 5 or Form 91, depending on which they are authorized to do.

That is mostly correct, but not quite. Mission Check Pilots cannot give flight instruction.


For the actual list of qualifications, see CAPR 60-1, paragraph 3-2.

A related question would be:
"If a CFI must be designated as a CAP IP before s/he can give dual instruction in a CAP plane, then does a SAR/DR mission pilot have to be designated as an instructor in order to give SAR/DR pilot training?"

The answer would be: Any CAP SAR/DR pilot can give instruction in mission pilot skills. The person needs to have completed Skills Evaluator Training (SET) in order to sign off on the training.


* - or the wing commander's delegatee; the authority to designate IPs, CPs, and MCPs is often delegated to the wing's Standardization & Evaluation Officer (aka "Stan/Eval Officer" or "Wing DOV").
Title: Re: CAP Instructor pilot
Post by: flyguy06 on June 03, 2007, 04:43:21 PM
mdickinson, how did you turn my question around. I didnt ask anything about mission check pilot.  I am interested in flying and was asking about the diffeence between an instrcutor pilot and a check pilot. At no time did I ask about a missiocn check pilot
flynd94 answered my question appropriatly. Thanks.
Title: Re: CAP Instructor pilot
Post by: flynd94 on June 03, 2007, 11:16:28 PM
No problem, I thought you were just asking about CAP IP's and CAPF5 check pilot.  Thanks to mdickinson for clouding the waters.  No where did I state anything about MCP's.  I be one and, know the rules.

KS
Title: Re: CAP Instructor pilot
Post by: Mustang on June 04, 2007, 04:19:52 AM
Quote from: flyguy06 on June 03, 2007, 04:43:21 PM
mdickinson, how did you turn my question around. I didnt ask anything about mission check pilot.  I am interested in flying and was asking about the diffeence between an instrcutor pilot and a check pilot. At no time did I ask about a missiocn check pilot
flynd94 answered my question appropriatly. Thanks.

Chill dude, the term "check pilot" could easily be construed to include mission check pilots--who are in fact check pilots. but may only conduct Form 91 checks.
Title: Re: CAP Instructor pilot
Post by: mdickinson on June 04, 2007, 03:01:26 PM
flynd94's original post answered the question by saying that
- an IP can give dual instruction
- A CP "can do all that plus actually give you a Form 5 or Form 91, depending on which they are authorized to do."

But someone who is authorized to give you a form 91 (that is, an MCP) can't give dual instruction. I was just clarifying that.