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Cadet Programs => Cadet Programs Management & Activities => Topic started by: Shotgun on October 06, 2016, 05:38:52 PM

Title: Color Guard Vs. Honor Guard
Post by: Shotgun on October 06, 2016, 05:38:52 PM
I'm trying determine the main difference between a Color Guard and Honor Guard.

Any references to how CAP defines the difference and the roles each play would be appreciated.

Here is what I've sort of determined for myself, but confirmation would be appreciated:

1. A color Color Guard (CG) carries and handles "the colors" for ceremonies such as conferences, sports events, parades, etc.

2. An Honor Guard (HG) carries and handles "the colors for events dedicated to individuals such as promotions, funerals, memorials, Changes of Command, etc.

3. An Honor Guard is usually a dedicated ceremonial unit. (ie - That's pretty much all they do!)

4. An Honor Guard is made of of three subgroups:
     Color Guard - Carries and presents the National / State / Unit colors
     Body Guard - Which escorts the person being honored (either deceased or living)
     Firing Party - Which conducts the 21 gun salute


Any insight would on the issue on the role of a CG or HG in a CAP squadron would be much appreciated!



Title: Re: Color Guard Vs. Honor Guard
Post by: Spaceman3750 on October 06, 2016, 06:08:42 PM
My squadron has a group of cadets trained for color guard that presents the colors not only at CAP functions, but also community functions. They even got to meet Capt. Sullenberger this year after posting the colors at an American Red Cross event. For us it is not only something the cadets enjoy doing, but a small service we provide to the community.
Title: Re: Color Guard Vs. Honor Guard
Post by: RogueLeader on October 06, 2016, 07:05:11 PM
Quote from: Shotgun on October 06, 2016, 05:38:52 PM

     Firing Party - Which conducts the 21 gun salute


Any insight would on the issue on the role of a CG or HG in a CAP squadron would be much appreciated!

Regardless of anything else: We do not have/use Firing Parties.  See CAPR 900-3 Section 1
Title: Re: Color Guard Vs. Honor Guard
Post by: Holding Pattern on October 07, 2016, 04:05:01 AM
We can use rail guns until they amend the definition of a firearm though.  >:D
Title: Re: Color Guard Vs. Honor Guard
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on October 07, 2016, 09:19:40 AM
Quote from: RogueLeader on October 06, 2016, 07:05:11 PM
Quote from: Shotgun on October 06, 2016, 05:38:52 PM

     Firing Party - Which conducts the 21 gun salute


Any insight would on the issue on the role of a CG or HG in a CAP squadron would be much appreciated!

Regardless of anything else: We do not have/use Firing Parties.  See CAPR 900-3 Section 1

And...whichever organizations that do perform that function aren't doing a "21 gun salute." That's something different entirely. And, no, multiplying 7 rifles times three volleys doesn't make it a "21 gun salute."
Title: Re: Color Guard Vs. Honor Guard
Post by: Tim Day on October 07, 2016, 12:16:46 PM
Quote from: Shotgun on October 06, 2016, 05:38:52 PM
I'm trying determine the main difference between a Color Guard and Honor Guard.

Any references to how CAP defines the difference and the roles each play would be appreciated.

Here is what I've sort of determined for myself, but confirmation would be appreciated:

1. A color Color Guard (CG) carries and handles "the colors" for ceremonies such as conferences, sports events, parades, etc.

2. An Honor Guard (HG) carries and handles "the colors for events dedicated to individuals such as promotions, funerals, memorials, Changes of Command, etc.

3. An Honor Guard is usually a dedicated ceremonial unit. (ie - That's pretty much all they do!)

4. An Honor Guard is made of of three subgroups:
     Color Guard - Carries and presents the National / State / Unit colors
     Body Guard - Which escorts the person being honored (either deceased or living)
     Firing Party - Which conducts the 21 gun salute


Any insight would on the issue on the role of a CG or HG in a CAP squadron would be much appreciated!

CAPP 52-8 has a detailed description of HG. CG just refers to carrying and presenting the colors.