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Operations => Safety => Topic started by: wyodmcs on May 26, 2014, 05:15:03 PM

Title: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: wyodmcs on May 26, 2014, 05:15:03 PM
What topics do you or would you put into a CAP safety calendar-plan?

e.g. - mission mindset, get-home-itis, large passenger van safety, G1000 pitfalls, 101 or Critical Days of Summer, etc.?
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: a2capt on May 26, 2014, 05:16:19 PM
Sounds good to me..
Also think of stuff that is applicable to the locality .. dust storms, windy roads, lightning, iced over bridges.. things that go with the climate, terrain, etc.
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: lordmonar on May 26, 2014, 06:45:07 PM
zombie apocalypse, duck and cover, so your air liner has just been hijacked,

If we are going to make us do this....at least make it fun.
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: LSThiker on May 26, 2014, 07:02:15 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on May 26, 2014, 06:45:07 PM
zombie apocalypse

CDC Zombie:
http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm (http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm)

Did you know, it cost the CDC $47 to create that website and it has generated an estimated $3 million marketing return? 

The sole reason behind creating that website was to get today's generation to actually read their disaster preparation website.  It started off as a joke at a meeting.  After a few failed brainstorming sessions, the potential of the idea was realized.  It is now used as a template for future ideas to communicate important messages to today's generation.
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: wyodmcs on May 26, 2014, 08:10:22 PM
Perfect! - I am now infected with the zombie virus, or at least the [zombie apocalypse preparedness metaphor meme]. 
Achoo!, as I'm looking a little gray, ataxic & chunks of skin falling off.  Little ripe, too.  Or maybe its just I'm back from a sarex or CI.

I will now attempt to spread the infection through the Wing.

Thank you, and thank you CDC.   :)

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Any other "must haves" in your list of CAP safety topics (that aren't already well done online)?

Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: lordmonar on May 26, 2014, 09:24:35 PM
Asteroids in-bound!,  That's no Moon!,  Negotiating with Thermal Detonators,  Snakes on a Plane!, It's just a wafer thin mint, OZ the survival guide!   
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: Garibaldi on May 26, 2014, 10:24:16 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on May 26, 2014, 09:24:35 PM
Asteroids in-bound!,  That's no Moon!,  Negotiating with Thermal Detonators,  Snakes on a Plane!, It's just a wafer thin mint, OZ the survival guide!

So sick of these monkey-flinging snakes on this Monday to Friday plane!
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: wyodmcs on May 28, 2014, 01:58:11 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on May 26, 2014, 09:24:35 PM
Asteroids in-bound!,  That's no Moon!,  Negotiating with Thermal Detonators,  Snakes on a Plane!, It's just a wafer thin mint, OZ the survival guide!

...  and of course, That's no Ordinary Rabbit!....    Thanks
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: SARDOC on June 29, 2014, 02:31:55 AM
The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: lordmonar on June 29, 2014, 02:44:28 AM
Quote from: SARDOC on June 29, 2014, 02:31:55 AM
The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!
Weapons Safety in the 13th Century!
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: PHall on June 29, 2014, 03:02:25 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 29, 2014, 02:44:28 AM
Quote from: SARDOC on June 29, 2014, 02:31:55 AM
The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!
Weapons Safety in the 13th Century!


The safety lesson being on how to count to three!!! >:D
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: lordmonar on June 29, 2014, 03:27:18 AM
Quote from: PHall on June 29, 2014, 03:02:25 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 29, 2014, 02:44:28 AM
Quote from: SARDOC on June 29, 2014, 02:31:55 AM
The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!
Weapons Safety in the 13th Century!


The safety lesson being on how to count to three!!! >:D
Six is right out!
:P
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: LTCinSWR on February 02, 2015, 04:05:23 PM
Give that I live where there are actually four seasons, I like to combine a little safety with an emergency preparedness message. (Spring=tornadoes, Winter=bad driving, wind chill, etc). I suggest planning your safety brief to give a factoid (not a tome) on the appropriate subject a month in advance (February=Spring=tornados, etc)
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: Eclipse on February 02, 2015, 05:15:14 PM
Quote from: LTCinSWR on February 02, 2015, 04:05:23 PM
Give that I live where there are actually four seasons, I like to combine a little safety with an emergency preparedness message. (Spring=tornadoes, Winter=bad driving, wind chill, etc). I suggest planning your safety brief to give a factoid (not a tome) on the appropriate subject a month in advance (February=Spring=tornados, etc)

In all seriousness, do you think that the audience (adults and adolescents 13+) are not aware of those issues and need "reminding"?
They aren't / haven't been hammered on this stuff from every news outlet and click-bait site looking to fill time and space?

This is one of my issues with CAP safety programs - they should be CAP-specific and related, or at least aviation and ES specific / related.
Child abductions, texting while driving, abuse of the elderly (for or against?), driving while impaired, all lanes and examples of
things seen regularly in CAP safety publications and where CAP has no related organizational experience to be speaking on the matters.
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on February 02, 2015, 05:29:04 PM
Also, if your squadron is mostly cadets, be careful when you talk about aviation safety.

Icing while flying, where none of your cadets or senior members are pilots? Seriously?

Hangar Rash? Yes.

Sterile Cockpit? Applies to riding in vans.

Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: Eclipse on February 02, 2015, 05:53:25 PM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on February 02, 2015, 05:29:04 PM
Icing while flying, where none of your cadets or senior members are pilots? Seriously?

Or the use of de-icing boots in an organization which doesn't use them, in a room with 20 people
and maybe two pilots.  (B.T.D.T.)  someday Shorty and I will have a reconing.
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: James Shaw on February 02, 2015, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on February 02, 2015, 05:29:04 PM
Also, if your squadron is mostly cadets, be careful when you talk about aviation safety.

Icing while flying, where none of your cadets or senior members are pilots? Seriously?

Hangar Rash? Yes.

Sterile Cockpit? Applies to riding in vans.

Several years ago during the CAP Safety Summit at the NB in Colorado, it was recommended that training be targeted to a specific audience. For example: do you need to know about winter snow driving hazards when you live in Florida?
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: JeffDG on February 02, 2015, 07:14:24 PM
Quote from: capmando on February 02, 2015, 07:04:50 PM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on February 02, 2015, 05:29:04 PM
Also, if your squadron is mostly cadets, be careful when you talk about aviation safety.

Icing while flying, where none of your cadets or senior members are pilots? Seriously?

Hangar Rash? Yes.

Sterile Cockpit? Applies to riding in vans.

Several years ago during the CAP Safety Summit at the NB in Colorado, it was recommended that training be targeted to a specific audience. For example: do you need to know about winter snow driving hazards when you live in Florida?
On the other hand, if you live in Minnesota and don't know how to drive in the snow in winter already, perhaps it's time for Darwin to reap his toll.
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: CadetSnuffy on February 02, 2015, 07:51:31 PM
Quote from: capmando on February 02, 2015, 07:04:50 PM
Several years ago during the CAP Safety Summit at the NB in Colorado, it was recommended that training be targeted to a specific audience. For example: do you need to know about winter snow driving hazards when you live in Florida?
One of the reasons we never do the "hurricane preparedness" safety module at our squadron here in Kansas.
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: LTCinSWR on February 02, 2015, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: CadetSnuffy on February 02, 2015, 07:51:31 PM
One of the reasons we never do the "hurricane preparedness" safety module at our squadron here in Kansas.

But, I do suspect that tornados definitely get mentioned, right? Teach what's pertinent.
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: LTCinSWR on February 02, 2015, 11:33:59 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on February 02, 2015, 05:15:14 PM
This is one of my issues with CAP safety programs - they should be CAP-specific and related, or at least aviation and ES specific / related.
Child abductions, texting while driving, abuse of the elderly (for or against?), driving while impaired, all lanes and examples of
things seen regularly in CAP safety publications and where CAP has no related organizational experience to be speaking on the matters.

Do what the ORM suggests might be a gap.
Isn't part of operational readiness having as many trained people available as possible? I remember years ago when the Base Commander at Ellington AFB in Houston was killed riding a motorcycle in the commute from base to home. That can definitely affect operational readiness.
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: Eclipse on February 03, 2015, 12:11:47 AM
Quote from: LTCinSWR on February 02, 2015, 11:33:59 PM
Do what the ORM suggests might be a gap.
Isn't part of operational readiness having as many trained people available as possible? I remember years ago when the Base Commander at Ellington AFB in Houston was killed riding a motorcycle in the commute from base to home. That can definitely affect operational readiness.

You can't argue that, but it's not an area CAP has any way to influence.
What's the unit MSO going to do?  Have a brief about rider safety?  Or maybe the
handout the ubiquitous "Start Seeing Motorcycles" stickers?

And the credibility risk is pretty high - nothing worse then someone lecturing about a subject they 1/2-read
on the internet 15 minutes before meeting to people with direct expertise on the subject.


Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: LTCinSWR on February 03, 2015, 10:14:41 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on February 03, 2015, 12:11:47 AM
And the credibility risk is pretty high - nothing worse then someone lecturing about a subject they 1/2-read
on the internet 15 minutes before meeting to people with direct expertise on the subject.

Credibility=integrity. Maybe because I have taught for quite awhile, the biggest lesson I have learned is there is always someone in the class who knows more than you. Do adequate prep (negating the 15 minute half-read you describe) - the 5Ps* are golden - make your presentation, read the audience and draw in the 'hidden expert' to clarify, refute or reinforce. This way, you facilitate, rather than direct the teaching. This also mitigates the 'hidden sniper' in the class by drawing them into the open. Learning comes from that collegiality and interaction.

* In this case, the '5Ps' are Prior Preparedness Prevents Poor Presentation
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: James Shaw on February 03, 2015, 10:57:24 AM
Quote from: LTCinSWR on February 03, 2015, 10:14:41 AM
Credibility=integrity. Maybe because I have taught for quite awhile, the biggest lesson I have learned is there is always someone in the class who knows more than you. Do adequate prep (negating the 15 minute half-read you describe) - the 5Ps* are golden - make your presentation, read the audience and draw in the 'hidden expert' to clarify, refute or reinforce. This way, you facilitate, rather than direct the teaching. This also mitigates the 'hidden sniper' in the class by drawing them into the open. Learning comes from that collegiality and interaction.

* In this case, the '5Ps' are Prior Preparedness Prevents Poor Presentation

I also have found that the Academic Knowledge that we share may have a different practical application and that even as an Instructor we should sometimes Listen to more and speak less.

To me that is where the true learning process is.
Title: Re: Safety Core Curriculum
Post by: CadetSnuffy on February 03, 2015, 06:38:09 PM
Yes, although right now it would be more appropriate to do an ice safety course. I almost slipped on the sidewalk today. ;D