New ES Specialty Track

Started by Dutchboy, December 13, 2007, 07:37:56 AM

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Dutchboy

 I think CAP Should offer Mess Officer as a Specialty track what do you all think? Opinions? This is not for real, but for fun.

SJFedor

Mess Officer isn't a very PC term though.

Support Services Specialist works better.

Steven Fedor, NREMT-P
Master Ambulance Driver
Former Capt, MP, MCPE, MO, MS, GTL, and various other 3-and-4 letter combinations
NESA MAS Instructor, 2008-2010 (#479)

Cobra1597

We're talking cooks, right?

If so, I don't see the need for it. I've never had food at a SAREX or mission that was prepared on site. Ever.

My first mission we had McDonald's brought in by the Red Cross. Most missions we either get bagels and donuts and pizza at mission base brought in, or we get to find food for ourselves somewhere (either stuff we already bought, or at the local sub shop).

Since I've started aircrew training, we've always gotten food at an airfield we decided to stop and rest at. The pilots know which field have good restaurants.

If next to none of the food is being cooked on site, just gotten by individual members, bought offsite, or trucked in by members and/or Red Cross, why should we create a specialty track for a job we don't ever do?

Anyone on a mission with a CAP drivers license can fill a van with pizza boxes.
Harrison Ingraham, Capt, CAP
MAWG External Aerospace Education Officer, ADY
Spaatz #1597

SJFedor

Quote from: messofficer on December 13, 2007, 07:37:56 AM
This is not for real, but for fun.

Read the quote. It goes along with my 101 card.



Which, since we made this atrocity, I've added a few more real quals to my card.

Steven Fedor, NREMT-P
Master Ambulance Driver
Former Capt, MP, MCPE, MO, MS, GTL, and various other 3-and-4 letter combinations
NESA MAS Instructor, 2008-2010 (#479)

fyrfitrmedic

Quote from: Cobra1597 on December 13, 2007, 08:13:38 AM
We're talking cooks, right?

If so, I don't see the need for it. I've never had food at a SAREX or mission that was prepared on site. Ever.

Way back WIWAC, my home unit had a regularly-used field kitchen for mass feeding at SAREXes and missions, complete with the gasoline-powered stoves. That was, however, back when CAP still had deuce-and-a-half trucks and the like.
MAJ Tony Rowley CAP
Lansdowne PA USA
"The passion of rescue reveals the highest dynamic of the human soul." -- Kurt Hahn

SARMedTech

What is the qual in traumatology? Is that convincing traumatized cadinks to stay for the duration of the encampment? ;)
"Corpsman Up!"

"...The distinct possibility of dying slow, cold and alone...but you also get the chance to save lives, and there is no greater calling in the world than that."

Dragoon

I'm a mess AS an officer.  Does that count?

♠SARKID♠

Quote from: Cobra1597 on December 13, 2007, 08:13:38 AM
We're talking cooks, right?

If so, I don't see the need for it. I've never had food at a SAREX or mission that was prepared on site. Ever.


Every major training mission we do, we grill out for ourselves.  INfact, the first training mission I was ever on,  I had to stay back at base because I had no 101 card.  I was promptly assigned the title of "Grillmiester".  Bad.  Idea.  I had never in my life grilled and now I had to feed every person on the base.  I couldnt cook, and nearly poisoned half the wing...  :-[   The safety officer was a little concerned about his half pink brat...

isuhawkeye

Dont kid. 

The cook at Iowa's WTA is a pivital part of our organization.  The cook corps serves 200 hungry mouths 5 meals a weekend.  If they wern't on top of their game we could cripple the ability of our wing to respond to missions.  Imagine half the wing down with food poisoning. 

RiverAux

CG Aux already has cornered the market on the need for this specialty -- they've had a chef's program for a while.  FYI, the chefs go underway and cook on CG cutters...

mikeylikey

What's up monkeys?

Matt

Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on December 13, 2007, 07:45:20 PM
Quote from: Cobra1597 on December 13, 2007, 08:13:38 AM
We're talking cooks, right?

If so, I don't see the need for it. I've never had food at a SAREX or mission that was prepared on site. Ever.


Every major training mission we do, we grill out for ourselves.  INfact, the first training mission I was ever on,  I had to stay back at base because I had no 101 card.  I was promptly assigned the title of "Grillmiester".  Bad.  Idea.  I had never in my life grilled and now I had to feed every person on the base.  I couldnt cook, and nearly poisoned half the wing...  :-[   The safety officer was a little concerned about his half pink brat...

I seem to remember that.  No food for Turkal...

And, once upon a time... in a galaxy not so far away...  Prior to a unit known as MESS, there was a squadron named: 621st Mission Support Squadron... They were -- cooks and they manned Ben Mueller's weenie wagon.  Then they merged and slowly the specialty died out.  But we do have some members around who still have equivalent 101Ts for Cook...
<a href=mailto:mkopp@ncr.cap.gov> Matthew Kopp</a>, Maj, CAP
Director of Information Technology
<a href=https://www.ncrcap.us.org> North Central Region</a>

SAR-EMT1

Quote from: Matt on December 14, 2007, 01:35:28 AM
Quote from: ♠SARKID♠ on December 13, 2007, 07:45:20 PM
Quote from: Cobra1597 on December 13, 2007, 08:13:38 AM
We're talking cooks, right?

If so, I don't see the need for it. I've never had food at a SAREX or mission that was prepared on site. Ever.


Every major training mission we do, we grill out for ourselves.  INfact, the first training mission I was ever on,  I had to stay back at base because I had no 101 card.  I was promptly assigned the title of "Grillmiester".  Bad.  Idea.  I had never in my life grilled and now I had to feed every person on the base.  I couldnt cook, and nearly poisoned half the wing...  :-[   The safety officer was a little concerned about his half pink brat...

I seem to remember that.  No food for Turkal...

And, once upon a time... in a galaxy not so far away...  Prior to a unit known as MESS, there was a squadron named: 621st Mission Support Squadron... They were -- cooks and they manned Ben Mueller's weenie wagon.  Then they merged and slowly the specialty died out.  But we do have some members around who still have equivalent 101Ts for Cook...

Sounds interesting. Got any photos or anything?
C. A. Edgar
AUX USCG Flotilla 8-8
Former CC / GLR-IL-328
Firefighter, Paramedic, Grad Student

Dutchboy

I guess what I am refering to is I think CAP should think about getting into this when it comes to Disaster Relief Missions. When is comes to training, One Major component that I would reccommend is being nationally certified by the NRA as a Restaurant manager(no not the Gun lobby group), NRA = National Restaurant Association

fyrfitrmedic

Quote from: messofficer on December 18, 2007, 06:18:14 AM
I guess what I am refering to is I think CAP should think about getting into this when it comes to Disaster Relief Missions. When is comes to training, One Major component that I would reccommend is being nationally certified by the NRA as a Restaurant manager(no not the Gun lobby group), NRA = National Restaurant Association

You might want to check this out:

http://www.nvoad.org/index.php
MAJ Tony Rowley CAP
Lansdowne PA USA
"The passion of rescue reveals the highest dynamic of the human soul." -- Kurt Hahn

James Shaw

 CC's      Culinary Commanders   ;D ;D ;D
VC's       Veggie Commanders     :D :D :D

Colonel Sanders could be in Charge!!
Lt. Col. could be in charge of Light Hourderves
Major could be in charge of Major Meals
How about Captain Wafers for bread snacks
2nd Lt in Charge of Butter and Condiments
Jim Shaw
USN: 1987-1992
GANG: 1996-1998
CAP:2000 - SER-SO
USCGA:2019 - BC-TDI/National Safety Team
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BillB

Major Shaw,  your JPG of Colonel Sanders shows him out of correct uniform. That tie is not authorized. Please get Tedda to correct it.
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Al Sayre

I believe that he is wearing the old "Mess Dress Whites"... >:D
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MS Wing Staff Dude
Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska
GRW #2787

isuhawkeye

Quoteguess what I am refering to is I think CAP should think about getting into this when it comes to Disaster Relief Missions.

There is not a tremendous mission need around here.  With the red cross, salvation army, and no fewer than three mega churches lined up to provide mass feeding it is not a great concern for my response district

floridacyclist

Here neither. When we deploy, we don't have time to sit around cooking gourmet food. It's MRE and canned spaghetti, half the time eaten cold right out of the can; if it's winter we use the can as a cooking pot. Cheap, fast, and leaves no dishes to wash.
Gene Floyd, Capt CAP
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