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Cadet Programs => Cadet Programs Management & Activities => Topic started by: NIN on November 26, 2013, 01:59:16 PM

Title: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: NIN on November 26, 2013, 01:59:16 PM
http://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a1/publication/afman36-2203/afman36-2203.pdf (http://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a1/publication/afman36-2203/afman36-2203.pdf)

Its got color!

(and not much else. They failed to fix most of the egregious errors)

Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: cm42 on November 26, 2013, 02:52:36 PM
Ah, still 2 commands where you start marching from the right foot.  ;D
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: Papabird on November 26, 2013, 03:23:34 PM
Bummer, one of the MTI's in the last version was my MTI in 1990!  SSgt Walker.  He is a monster of a man but a great instructor!
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: NIN on November 26, 2013, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: cm42 on November 26, 2013, 02:52:36 PM
Ah, still 2 commands where you start marching from the right foot.  ;D

Per the book, three, actually.  One of which is wrong.

Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: TexasCadet on November 26, 2013, 05:21:32 PM
It has the word "releasability". Is that even a real word?
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: PHall on November 26, 2013, 05:24:57 PM
Quote from: TexasCadet on November 26, 2013, 05:21:32 PM
It has the word "releasability". Is that even a real word?


It is now.
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: NIN on November 26, 2013, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: TexasCadet on November 26, 2013, 05:21:32 PM
It has the word "releasability". Is that even a real word?

Outside the fence at Lackland? Doubtful.
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: PHall on November 26, 2013, 06:31:26 PM
Quote from: NIN on November 26, 2013, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: TexasCadet on November 26, 2013, 05:21:32 PM
It has the word "releasability". Is that even a real word?

Outside the fence at Lackland? Doubtful.


Nah, it's a classic "Rumsfeldism".
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on November 26, 2013, 08:27:26 PM
I found releasability on the Merriam Webster's online dictionary...

See http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/releasability (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/releasability)

Flyer
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: TexasCadet on November 26, 2013, 08:41:17 PM
Quote from: flyer333555 on November 26, 2013, 08:27:26 PM
I found releasability on the Merriam Webster's online dictionary...

See http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/releasability (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/releasability)

Flyer

I can't see the definition unless I activate a "FREE TRIAL MEMBERSHIP". Guess I'll have to *gasp* use a dictionary.
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on November 26, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
Cadet, you hexed me.

I am not subscribed, yet I found the answer by googling it. After I read your answer I clicked on my own posting. Yep, got the message "you have to subscribe..."

Flyer
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: TexasCadet on November 26, 2013, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: flyer333555 on November 26, 2013, 08:46:37 PM
Cadet, you hexed me.

I am not subscribed, yet I found the answer by googling it. After I read your answer I clicked on my own posting. Yep, got the message "you have to subscribe..."

Flyer

I had to check what "hexed" meant. I did not in any way, shape, or form practice witchcraft.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hexed?s=t (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hexed?s=t)

(I used the Internet this time because I wanted to prove my point.)
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: a2capt on November 26, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
I can see it w/o signing up/in. :)

*maybe that's because my User Agent is set to respond as GoogleBot on sites I have not signed up for. ;)
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: lordmonar on November 26, 2013, 10:00:35 PM
Quote from: NIN on November 26, 2013, 05:11:25 PM
Quote from: cm42 on November 26, 2013, 02:52:36 PM
Ah, still 2 commands where you start marching from the right foot.  ;D

Per the book, three, actually.  One of which is wrong.
Just asking....but what three commands start you marching on the right foot?

Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: TexasCadet on November 26, 2013, 10:01:38 PM
Quote from: a2capt on November 26, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
I can see it w/o signing up/in. :)

*maybe that's because my User Agent is set to respond as GoogleBot on sites I have not signed up for. ;)

What exactly is a "GoogleBot"?
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: Storm Chaser on November 26, 2013, 10:48:53 PM
Does anyone know if any of the changes made to this manual conflict with any current CAP training material and/or exams?
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: a2capt on November 26, 2013, 11:20:33 PM
Unless you see a note, figure it does not. Par for the course, that CAP exams are updated .. much later than the regulations they cite.

Just ask the Communications people. :)
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: NIN on November 27, 2013, 05:43:16 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on November 26, 2013, 10:00:35 PM
\Just asking....but what three commands start you marching on the right foot?

This is cadet trivia 101.

I'll give you the easy one: right step, march.

The hard one?

The wrong one?

(the third one is STILL a typo in the manual, 13-14 years after we called Lackland and confirmed that)
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: lordmonar on November 27, 2013, 07:55:39 AM
Right Step March and Close March start on the right foot....they are both mentioned in the text as the only commands where you start marching on the right foot.

Face in marching is the wrong one.

Am I right?
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: NIN on November 27, 2013, 11:43:32 AM
Quote from: lordmonar on November 27, 2013, 07:55:39 AM
Right Step March and Close March start on the right foot....they are both mentioned in the text as the only commands where you start marching on the right foot.

Face in marching is the wrong one.

Am I right?

*ding* Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: SARDOC on November 27, 2013, 10:22:22 PM
Couldn't the Civil Air Patrol just adopt the Air Force Instruction by reference and just be done with it.  That way when the Air Force Updates their instruction it automatically updates the CAP regulation?
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: NIN on November 28, 2013, 02:14:25 AM
don't we already?

I mean, we don't have "CAPM 50-14" or similar (the old rebadged D&C manual).

We do refer to the AFMAN by name/number in pubs

Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: JC004 on November 28, 2013, 02:34:22 AM
Quote from: TexasCadet on November 26, 2013, 10:01:38 PM
Quote from: a2capt on November 26, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
I can see it w/o signing up/in. :)

*maybe that's because my User Agent is set to respond as GoogleBot on sites I have not signed up for. ;)

What exactly is a "GoogleBot"?

Basically, it's Google's robot that crawls the web (as opposed to your User Agent of whatever web browser you're using).  Websites see GoogleBot and allow it to index sites that require a subscription for people, so their pages appear in Google's search results.  You can spoof yourself as Google to view some such sites.
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: TexasCadet on November 28, 2013, 04:02:55 PM
Quote from: JC004 on November 28, 2013, 02:34:22 AM
Quote from: TexasCadet on November 26, 2013, 10:01:38 PM
Quote from: a2capt on November 26, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
I can see it w/o signing up/in. :)

*maybe that's because my User Agent is set to respond as GoogleBot on sites I have not signed up for. ;)

What exactly is a "GoogleBot"?

Basically, it's Google's robot that crawls the web (as opposed to your User Agent of whatever web browser you're using).  Websites see GoogleBot and allow it to index sites that require a subscription for people, so their pages appear in Google's search results.  You can spoof yourself as Google to view some such sites.

My inner evil genius is growing...
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: NIN on November 28, 2013, 04:19:06 PM
Quote from: TexasCadet on November 28, 2013, 04:02:55 PM
My inner evil genius is growing...

Another first on CAPTalk: A thread goes technical instead of uniform.
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on November 28, 2013, 04:20:40 PM
Not for long. You turned it into an uniform thread! :P

Flyer
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: SARDOC on November 28, 2013, 05:10:34 PM
Quote from: NIN on November 28, 2013, 02:14:25 AM
don't we already?

I mean, we don't have "CAPM 50-14" or similar (the old rebadged D&C manual).

We do refer to the AFMAN by name/number in pubs

Sort of in a manner I suppose.  CAPM 50-14 specifically states that it's a document to be used in Grading cadet competitions.

and CAPR 52-14 state that the AFMAN 36-2203 be used to grade cadet promotions.
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: a2capt on November 28, 2013, 05:24:46 PM
Quote from: TexasCadet on November 28, 2013, 04:02:55 PMMy inner evil genius is growing...
I must say .. for the "web team", you're asking some -interesting- questions.  :D  Hit the Interwebs.. :)

I say in jest.. not to worry..
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: TexasCadet on November 28, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
The "Web Team" is just a group of cadets who maintain the squadron's website. It is almost complete. A person doesn't have to have a degree in electrical engineering to be on it. However, knowing a little HTML is helpful. (I will add my knowledge of making my web browser look like a Googlebot to my list of "evil genius" stuff, like picking locks... ;) )
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: abdsp51 on November 29, 2013, 01:44:53 AM
Quote from: TexasCadet on November 28, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
The "Web Team" is just a group of cadets who maintain the squadron's website. It is almost complete. A person doesn't have to have a degree in electrical engineering to be on it. However, knowing a little HTML is helpful. (I will add my knowledge of making my web browser look like a Googlebot to my list of "evil genius" stuff, like picking locks... ;) )

Since it is hard to judge tone and intent via written communication like forums at times.  I would not be advertising publicly like lock picking.
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: TexasCadet on November 29, 2013, 02:40:24 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on November 29, 2013, 01:44:53 AM
Quote from: TexasCadet on November 28, 2013, 11:29:36 PM
The "Web Team" is just a group of cadets who maintain the squadron's website. It is almost complete. A person doesn't have to have a degree in electrical engineering to be on it. However, knowing a little HTML is helpful. (I will add my knowledge of making my web browser look like a Googlebot to my list of "evil genius" stuff, like picking locks... ;) )

Since it is hard to judge tone and intent via written communication like forums at times.  I would not be advertising publicly like lock picking.

I was kidding. However, I can understand how people may become confused.

For example, which would look like you were angry if you were texting with the average person?

no
No.

Disclaimer: I cannot pick locks, build bombs, hack websites, etc. My post was intended as a joke and should be taken as such.
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: Luis R. Ramos on November 29, 2013, 03:41:42 AM
You know the story of the guy that saw a friend at the airport and yelled his friend's name in greeting, right?

He was arrested by TSA who did not take kindly as he yelled "Hi Jack!"

:(

Moral of the story: be careful, very careful when you post or say things in public!

Flyer
Title: Re: New AFMAN 36-2203
Post by: a2capt on November 29, 2013, 04:43:46 AM
"man, that new computa you got!! It's da bomB!"

{s klaxons going off}