Aviation Film Clips from long ago

Started by Cliff_Chambliss, February 22, 2015, 05:31:40 PM

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From aerobatics in a Ford Tri-motor, to early a 1950's missile tests, to early USAF Newsreels, a good way to waste several hours looking at yesteryear.

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Nice clip collection, thanks for posting it.

Watched the video of the airplane crash into the Midway while attempting to land.

Made me wonder what would be the procedure when a carrier deck is fouled up after an accident of that kind, with other acft in a landing pattern?

Would the person in charge of Air Ops, (would that be designated the Air Boss?) make a direct request to another carrier to take over landing ops for that carrier?

Or would the Air Ops guy have to "recommend or suggest" that the Senior Officer of that damaged carrier seek support from other carriers, and that senior officer grant approval before diverting incoming aircraft?

Lastly I saw the video without sound. Did Cmdr Duncan survive?
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Frequently, there's not another carrier available. First priority is to get the flight deck landing area clear. If that's going to take a while, they get a tanker, or two, in the air, and keep everyone else flying. Sometimes there's already one up there.
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Quote from: SarDragon on February 22, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
Frequently, there's not another carrier available. First priority is to get the flight deck landing area clear. If that's going to take a while, they get a tanker, or two, in the air, and keep everyone else flying. Sometimes there's already one up there.

Back in those days, carriers tended to travel in little packs, versus a single-carrier-based "Battle group"

IIRC, that was the 2nd F9F carrier landing in 1951 during carrier suitability testing, so Cdr Duncan was the only guy in the pattern.

Nobody else had to worry about going around/orbiting.

And in 1951, AR wasn't even a thing for Navy jets
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Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on February 22, 2015, 05:48:49 PM
Lastly I saw the video without sound. Did Cmdr Duncan survive?

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Quote from: NIN on February 22, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on February 22, 2015, 07:14:57 PM
Frequently, there's not another carrier available. First priority is to get the flight deck landing area clear. If that's going to take a while, they get a tanker, or two, in the air, and keep everyone else flying. Sometimes there's already one up there.

Back in those days, carriers tended to travel in little packs, versus a single-carrier-based "Battle group"

IIRC, that was the 2nd F9F carrier landing in 1951 during carrier suitability testing, so Cdr Duncan was the only guy in the pattern.

Nobody else had to worry about going around/orbiting.

And in 1951, AR wasn't even a thing for Navy jets

It was getting close. Tests were done on the Panther, and most of the Cougars were IFR-equipped.

I wonder what they were testing; the Panther was operational throughout the Korean War.

BTW, a different view of that crash was used in The Hunt For Red October.
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In watching that video, the Cutlass that came aboard just before the Panther looked like he was going to eat the ramp as well
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Quote from: NIN on February 23, 2015, 11:50:53 AM
In watching that video, the Cutlass that came aboard just before the Panther looked like he was going to eat the ramp as well

It ain't called the "Ramp Monster" for nothing!

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