Got denied a call sign...

[Stonewall]

So, I sent in my FLWG Form 21 requesting a call sign.  I've got 4 radios but only one squeeks by the NTIA compliant requirement because it "hasn't been tested".

Notice: Radios meeting the "Narrowband Pre 1/06", but failing to meet or not having been tested to the "Narrowband Post 1/06" standards may continue to be used until the end of their life cycle, if acquired or placed in service prior to Jan 2006 (Ref: 47 CFR 300 5.3.5.2, Effective Dates).  "N/A" in the "Narrowband Compliant Post 1/06" column indicates the radio was not tested to the New Standards by the manufacturer.

I get this via email:

Do you have a receipt showing this radio was purchased prior to 1/06?

According to the pre 1/06 test this radio will not pass the post 1/06 test.

My thought on this:  You've got a guy (me) who has a radio that is clearly exempt from the NTIA standard because it wasn't tested, which means it can still be used.  I am an asset to the areas SAR effort being qualified up to Ground Branch Director along with being an EMT and having my own radio.  But I can't get a call sign because I can't show a receipt for the purchase of this radio.

Every radio I have is at least 10 years old.  I'm sorry, but I don't have a receipt.  Not to mention, this model radio hasn't been manufactured since 1/06, so how could it have been "put in service" for the first time sicne 1/06?

So now I'll have to spend what, $1000 to become "compliant".  This is crap.

[Sgt. Savage]

Some people take their jobs too seriously. I'll give you a call sign.... "Fuzzy Bunny"

Too late, already stuck.... (Sorry Geico)

[Stonewall]

^Laugh it up, Fuzz Ball...

I should have just kept my membership with NATCAP along with my call sign and offered my assistance to FLWG.

But yeah, some people take their jobs so seriously that it effects others negatively. 

[Stonewall]

I've got an Alinco DJ-580 (dual band) HT, a DR-140 Mobile, a Vertex VS-150 HT, and a Motorola MT 2000 HT.  I'm thinking, well over $2000 worth of comms gear that works perfectly.  But someone, somewhere, said "throw it all away, it's worthless, spend $2000 on just one radio".

Grrrr....sometimes I hate things.   

[Eclipse]

A decode of the serial number might be able to help this, if its really old enough, it should be obvious.

Otherwise perhaps the Wing DC will accept an affidavit or your testimony as to when it was purchased.

[JC004]

A decode of the serial number might be able to help this, if its really old enough, it should be obvious.

Otherwise perhaps the Wing DC will accept an affidavit or your testimony as to when it was purchased.

...or a donut.  Remember never to rule out donuts.

[Major Lord]

Kirt,

Contact by PM off line.

Allen

[Stonewall]

A decode of the serial number might be able to help this, if its really old enough, it should be obvious.

I think it is obvious.  You can even go to the Motorola website where it says it is no longer manufactured.

CaptLord, PM sent.

[Stonewall]

CNX OPORD for night time infil.  Al is okay, I got approved after explaining that the radio wasn't manufactured after 1/06 and copied the DCWG Commo God who helped out.

Standby for some whacky transmissions in FLWG...    :angel: 

[JohnKachenmeister]

CNX OPORD for night time infil.  Al is okay, I got approved after explaining that the radio wasn't manufactured after 1/06 and copied the DCWG Commo God who helped out.

Standby for some whacky transmissions in FLWG...    :angel: 

I gave up buying radios after all my old ones were ruled "Non-Compliant."

[Eclipse]

Every radio I have is at least 10 years old.  I'm sorry, but I don't have a receipt.  Not to mention, this model radio hasn't been manufactured since 1/06, so how could it have been "put in service" for the first time sicne 1/06?

Just for the record, the key is "in service" - it could easily have sat on a shelf since Jan 06 and only been unwrapped today.  I don't agree, I'm just saying.

[floridacyclist]

CNX OPORD for night time infil.  Al is okay, I got approved after explaining that the radio wasn't manufactured after 1/06 and copied the DCWG Commo God who helped out.

Standby for some whacky transmissions in FLWG...    :angel: 

Dang..and I missed the HF net tonight LOL

[Stonewall]

Every radio I have is at least 10 years old.  I'm sorry, but I don't have a receipt.  Not to mention, this model radio hasn't been manufactured since 1/06, so how could it have been "put in service" for the first time sicne 1/06?

Just for the record, the key is "in service" - it could easily have sat on a shelf since Jan 06 and only been unwrapped today.  I don't agree, I'm just saying.

I hear ya, but it's been "in service" for several years now. 

Sorry, Gene.  No HF here, plus I'm at drill this weekend.

[Eclipse]

Every radio I have is at least 10 years old.  I'm sorry, but I don't have a receipt.  Not to mention, this model radio hasn't been manufactured since 1/06, so how could it have been "put in service" for the first time sicne 1/06?

Just for the record, the key is "in service" - it could easily have sat on a shelf since Jan 06 and only been unwrapped today.  I don't agree, I'm just saying.

I hear ya, but it's been "in service" for several years now. 

Sorry, Gene.  No HF here, plus I'm at drill this weekend.

Was it licensed within CAP?  If it was it should be a non-issue and should already be on the books.  The "in service", for CAP's purpose, refers only to CAP.  (i.e. a donated 5-year old HT100 from your local PD is still a "new" radio to CAP).

[Fifinella]

Some people take their jobs too seriously.

"The power to obstruct, exercised by self-important people, is the real bureaucratic evil." – Louis B. Lundborg

[Slim]

CNX OPORD for night time infil.  Al is okay, I got approved after explaining that the radio wasn't manufactured after 1/06 and copied the DCWG Commo God who helped out.

Standby for some whacky transmissions in FLWG...    :angel: 

UK...Did you get that bad boy reprogrammed yet?

[JC004]

You need HF so you can transmit your madness even further...   :angel:

[Pylon]

The recent mess with radios is just that.  A mess.


Sorry you got caught up in the red tape that excludes members who don't have thousands of dollars in personal, disposable funds to support a group you volunteer you time for.

[Stonewall]

CNX OPORD for night time infil.  Al is okay, I got approved after explaining that the radio wasn't manufactured after 1/06 and copied the DCWG Commo God who helped out.

Standby for some whacky transmissions in FLWG...    :angel: 

UK...Did you get that bad boy reprogrammed yet?

I couldn't get anyone in FLWG to give me a freq plan so I only have 6 channels programmed.  In DCWG we had 32 channels programmed the same on all radios.  I emailed and talked to several comms people last year and no one seemed to know or want to give me the comm plan.

[floridacyclist]

I'll get with you via email...I have a 32-channel plan that covers all repeaters in FL, GA, and AL I just need to dig it out of my Kenwood software.