What year did I join CAP as a cadet? ID 650143

Started by futura, January 04, 2017, 07:48:50 PM

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futura

Having a senior moment so to speak. It was either 1966 or 1967. Many thanks!

kcebnaes

Are you a current member? If so, you can check on eServices, in the Administration Tab click on "Member Search." Once there, typein either your name or CAPID, and then click your name. Once there, you can click on Member Search Report and that information will be there!

If you re not a current member, you'll have to ask National Headquarters.. I would try Ms Susie Parker.
Sean Beck, Maj, CAP
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stillamarine

Quote from: kcebnaes on January 04, 2017, 08:09:18 PM
Are you a current member? If so, you can check on eServices, in the Administration Tab click on "Member Search." Once there, typein either your name or CAPID, and then click your name. Once there, you can click on Member Search Report and that information will be there!

If you re not a current member, you'll have to ask National Headquarters.. I would try Ms Susie Parker.

Not always. If you had a large break in service your cadet stuff may not be in there unless you have a major milestone. None of my cadet stuff from the 80s is in there but I had like a 15 year break.
Tim Gardiner, 1st LT, CAP

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kcebnaes

That's actually kind of interesting! I had about a 6 year break from when I stopped being a cadet, and when I rejoined. The date I joined as a cadet is the date eServices lists as my join date.

I guess the big point is: your results may vary! Best of luck to you!
Sean Beck, Maj, CAP
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FW

From the ID# given, it looks like you joined in 1967.  I joined in November of that year and had an ID# of 651517

Eclipse

Did they restart CAPID's?

They are currently issuing numbers in the 59#### range, and most of the old timers I'm aware of have IDs in the 12#### range.

"That Others May Zoom"

FW

They did.  I rejoined in 1982 and have a "110***" ID number; given after SS numbers were no longer permitted.  I think things have changed a few times over the years...

SarDragon

Well, I'm not going to search for my olde posts on this, so I'm gonna shoot from the hip a bit on this.

When I joined, cadets and SM had different types of CAPSNs The SMs had a 7- or 8-digit CAPSN, presumably sequential. Cadets had CAPSNs in this format - C-nn-nnnnn, issued by each wing. The C was for cadet, the next two numbers were the wing number according to the original numbering scheme from the '40s, and the remaining digits were the sequentially assigned number. Mine was C-22-10171.

Sometime in 1965, the cadet numbers were changed to a nationally assigned 6-digit number, and everybody got a new one. I have no knowledge of the specific scheme, but I do know that they were into the 623xxx area by July 1966, and all the way up to 6665xx by the end of 1968. Mine was 519522.

By 1971, SM CAPSNs were changed to their SSANs. I don't know when the same thing was done for cadets.

In 2001, we went to CAPIDs, starting with 100001. Apparently, they were initially assigned in SSAN order, until they got to about 148xxx, and had converted all existing members. There's a gap, and then they restart at 149000, when they started assigning them in join date order.

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Al Sayre

When I joined as a Cadet in 73, my CAPSN was 75XXXX.
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Toad1168

Quote from: kcebnaes on January 04, 2017, 09:04:44 PM
That's actually kind of interesting! I had about a 6 year break from when I stopped being a cadet, and when I rejoined. The date I joined as a cadet is the date eServices lists as my join date.

I guess the big point is: your results may vary! Best of luck to you!

Definitely varies.  I was converted to the new system when they went to CAPIDs.  13XXXX.  Took a nine year break and when I came back, eServices has my join date as 1994, when I transitioned to SM.
Toad

GaryVC

Quote from: Toad1168 on January 05, 2017, 02:55:19 PM
Definitely varies.  I was converted to the new system when they went to CAPIDs.  13XXXX.  Took a nine year break and when I came back, eServices has my join date as 1994, when I transitioned to SM.

I joined as a cadet in 1964, became a senior member in 1969 and let my membership lapse in 1995. I rejoined last year and was given a serial number of 145xxx. My join date in eServices is when I became a senior member in 1969.

futura

I appreciate everyone's comments. Yes I did contact the amazing Susie Parker. Not a surprise but National records don't go back 50 years. Please keeps those replies coming.

wacapgh

Quote from: Al Sayre on January 05, 2017, 12:46:26 PM
When I joined as a Cadet in 73, my CAPSN was 75XXXX.

Near the end of 74 - 757XXX.

I remember when the switch back from SSAN's to the 6 digit was announced, there was an immediate avalanche of "Can I have my old Cadet ID back?" requests.  ;D

SarDragon

As far as join dates go, there are two places in your online record where they appear.

If you click your name in the unit listing, the entry on the General tab should show your first joined date.

If you click Member Search Report, you will get your most recent join date.

I was a SM when I lapsed for six years, so there was no cadet transition issues.
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stillamarine

Quote from: SarDragon on January 06, 2017, 12:54:24 AM
As far as join dates go, there are two places in your online record where they appear.

If you click your name in the unit listing, the entry on the General tab should show your first joined date.

If you click Member Search Report, you will get your most recent join date.

I was a SM when I lapsed for six years, so there was no cadet transition issues.

Still don't show my cadet time. But eServices didn't exist back then. I'm pretty sure we used SSANs. I remember ordering the metal id card from the bookstore and it having my SSAN on it.
Tim Gardiner, 1st LT, CAP

USMC AD 1996-2001
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SarDragon

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PHall

I joined as a Cadet in Dec 1969 and my CAPSN was 691XXX.

SarDragon

Well, after massaging all the given data, I've got to agree with FW on the 1967 time frame, and will SWAG it down to September or October of that year.
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Toad1168

Quote from: stillamarine on January 06, 2017, 01:04:25 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on January 06, 2017, 12:54:24 AM
As far as join dates go, there are two places in your online record where they appear.

If you click your name in the unit listing, the entry on the General tab should show your first joined date.

If you click Member Search Report, you will get your most recent join date.

I was a SM when I lapsed for six years, so there was no cadet transition issues.

Still don't show my cadet time. But eServices didn't exist back then. I'm pretty sure we used SSANs. I remember ordering the metal id card from the bookstore and it having my SSAN on it.

Still have my metal one!
Toad

futura

Thank you Sar Dragon and everyone else that helped me unravel the mystery. It was in September and we've confirmed that 1967 was the year I joined as a 14 year old cadet. Boy 50 years went by pretty quickly!

SarDragon

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RNOfficer

1962. Teterboro Composite Squadron, NJ Wing. Michell Award (COP) unnumbered ) 1964.

BuckeyeDEJ

I joined as a cadet in 1984, and my time in CAP has been uninterrupted. My CAPID begins with 113.


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SarDragon

Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on January 10, 2017, 01:14:53 AM
I joined as a cadet in 1984, and my time in CAP has been uninterrupted. My CAPID begins with 113.

You're in the current number group, which transitioned from SSANs.
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Lance

I joined October 1966 and my cadet number was 633730.  Fifty years has flown by....
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BuckeyeDEJ

Quote from: SarDragon on January 10, 2017, 01:41:26 AM
Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on January 10, 2017, 01:14:53 AM
I joined as a cadet in 1984, and my time in CAP has been uninterrupted. My CAPID begins with 113.

You're in the current number group, which transitioned from SSANs.

Indeed. But I didn't have an SSN when I joined CAP, so I was issued CAPSN 000914475 in 1984. That I would remember that number seems amazing.


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Ed DeSocio

I used to think that the CAPID numbering scheme followed a general pattern, but it doesn't seem to hold true.  My number is 104*** and I joined in August 1977 (12 years old, NYW).  I didn't have an SSN yet, either.


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chief2

In 1956 as a cadet, CAP ID 52-2817 then a long break.

AirAux

1962 as a cadet, Truax Field, Madison, Wisconsin, summer encampment, Chanute AFB, Illinois...

SarDragon

Quote from: Ed DeSocio on March 27, 2017, 03:38:32 PM
I used to think that the CAPID numbering scheme followed a general pattern, but it doesn't seem to hold true.  My number is 104*** and I joined in August 1977 (12 years old, NYW).  I didn't have an SSN yet, either.

Actually, there is a scheme, or actually a sequence of them. See my posts above, and also do a search for "SSAN" with me as the post author. That will fill in most of the holes.
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Shawn W.

I joined in Apr. 1996 as a Cadet.. For the first year or year and a half, we used ssn as out Id numbers. Sometime after that, I was told we would no longer be using ssn numbers and we moved to the 6 digit numbers that we have now. I have a 207xxx number.

Ed DeSocio

Quote from: SarDragon on March 27, 2017, 10:05:09 PM
Quote from: Ed DeSocio on March 27, 2017, 03:38:32 PM
I used to think that the CAPID numbering scheme followed a general pattern, but it doesn't seem to hold true.  My number is 104*** and I joined in August 1977 (12 years old, NYW).  I didn't have an SSN yet, either.

Actually, there is a scheme, or actually a sequence of them. See my posts above, and also do a search for "SSAN" with me as the post author. That will fill in most of the holes.

I've been thinking about this and you're right.  I recall that I had a different number as a cadet, so I went digging through my cadet file and sure enough, there it was: 776244!  The 77 prefix corresponds to my join year.
The 104 prefix number was assigned to me at some point after I became a senior member.  I'm having trouble figuring out when that happened, exactly.  I guess I didn't notice or really care at the time.


Ed DeSocio
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SarDragon

The 77 is a coincidence. That group of numbers, like the ones used today, were sequentially assigned, and had no correlation to year, wing, or anything else.

Sent from my phone.

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Quote from: BuckeyeDEJ on March 27, 2017, 03:07:24 AM
Indeed. But I didn't have an SSN when I joined CAP, so I was issued CAPSN 000914475 in 1984. That I would remember that number seems amazing.

798207 here.  Joined in 81

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Ed DeSocio

Quote from: SarDragon on March 28, 2017, 09:52:38 PM
The 77 is a coincidence. That group of numbers, like the ones used today, were sequentially assigned, and had no correlation to year, wing, or anything else.

Sent from my phone.

Thanks!  Interesting conversation.


Ed DeSocio
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Chappie

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Storm Chaser

When I joined in 1987, my CAPSN began with 000. Then it changed to my SSAN a few years later. I had a lengthy break in membership and when I came back, my new CAPID began with 189. This, I believe, was based on when I first joined as a senior member, as my cadet information wasn't showing in eServices. When I called NHQ, they told me they had a separate system in place at the time that didn't "talk" to the new one.

Chappie

Quote from: Chappie on March 29, 2017, 07:17:04 PM
Joined in '96....first 3 digits: 221

Oops....read the title of the thread - joined as a senior member and not a cadet.  So much for "attention to detail"  ;D
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