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 on: Today at 12:32:00 AM 
Started by Picy3 - Last post by OldGuy
I could go off topic regarding the whole “mercy sakes, don’t yell or call them ‘basics’” thing but I digress.
Me too. Sad.

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 on: Today at 12:14:04 AM 
Started by Picy3 - Last post by Jester
Giving students (especially—gasp!—basic students) any more schedule information than a brief rundown every morning at opening formation is more trouble than it’s worth IMO.

- literally all they have to do is what they’re told. It’s a followership and peer leadership course. Right place, right time, right uniform, right gear, right attitude/mindset. None of that is contingent on having yet another piece of paper they don’t need and it’s not like they can control the schedule anyway.  At the student level, just listen.

- as mentioned, encampment schedules are typically fluid. Why give them something that has a high-to-certain chance of changing?

I could go off topic regarding the whole “mercy sakes, don’t yell or call them ‘basics’” thing but I digress.

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 on: Yesterday at 11:17:14 PM 
Started by KPinAK - Last post by kwe1009
It it a school year.  The courses are designed to take place during a school year so a JROTC cadet would not be taking any classes most summers when school is out of session.

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 on: Yesterday at 11:15:47 PM 
Started by huey - Last post by OldGuy
Good mentor-ship: in my first year back - scanner wings, level II twice. Absent mentor-ship - not so much!

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 on: Yesterday at 11:14:03 PM 
Started by KPinAK - Last post by OldGuy
Do you all think "1 year" here is defined as a whole school year (August to May for example) or a calendar year (August to August).  We just had a cadet join our squadron.  He was in JROTC all last school year.  It's June.  He could conceivably promote twice before the new school year starts if we are looking at just a *school* year, but only once if not.  This may also arise the next few summers for him (and a couple others now that I overanalyze it)

CAPR 60-1
5.6.2.3. Accelerated Promotions. Cadets who have earned JROTC course credit may advance at
twice the normal rate, with just 4 weeks (28 days) between achievements and awards. This accelerated
rate is available to cadets with 1 year’s JROTC credit through Phase I, with 2 years’ credit through Phase
II, with 3 years’ credit through Phase III, and with 4 years’ credit through Phase IV. Standard promotion
requirements apply; only the rate of advancement is affected.5.6.2.3. Accelerated Promotions. Cadets who have earned JROTC course credit may advance at
twice the normal rate, with just 4 weeks (28 days) between achievements and awards. This accelerated
rate is available to cadets with 1 year’s JROTC credit through Phase I, with 2 years’ credit through Phase
II, with 3 years’ credit through Phase III, and with 4 years’ credit through Phase IV. Standard promotion
requirements apply; only the rate of advancement is affected.

PS--Will someone PM me if they respond? I don't know if I get any sort of notice if someone responds to my thread.  Thank you!!
School year - two semesters.

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 on: Yesterday at 11:09:22 PM 
Started by huey - Last post by kwe1009
One thing I found recently, and mentioned here, was that duty assignments automatically
enroll the member in the respective track with a rating of "none", so that really shouldn't be a "thing" any more.

This is true and all it does is keep an SUI AOC from happening.  I have seen too many people be in a duty position for years and never attain a technician rating.  I'm not sure what good it is to have this as an SUI question.  Maybe something like "If member has been in duty position for more than XX months then they should have at least a technician rating."  I know there are ways around that as well but the way the SUI looks at this area is basically useless and it was even before eServices did the automatic enrollment.

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 on: Yesterday at 11:07:27 PM 
Started by KPinAK - Last post by KPinAK
Do you all think "1 year" here is defined as a whole school year (August to May for example) or a calendar year (August to August).  We just had a cadet join our squadron.  He was in JROTC all last school year.  It's June.  He could conceivably promote twice before the new school year starts if we are looking at just a *school* year, but only once if not.  This may also arise the next few summers for him (and a couple others now that I overanalyze it)

CAPR 60-1
5.6.2.3. Accelerated Promotions. Cadets who have earned JROTC course credit may advance at
twice the normal rate, with just 4 weeks (28 days) between achievements and awards. This accelerated
rate is available to cadets with 1 year’s JROTC credit through Phase I, with 2 years’ credit through Phase
II, with 3 years’ credit through Phase III, and with 4 years’ credit through Phase IV. Standard promotion
requirements apply; only the rate of advancement is affected.5.6.2.3. Accelerated Promotions. Cadets who have earned JROTC course credit may advance at
twice the normal rate, with just 4 weeks (28 days) between achievements and awards. This accelerated
rate is available to cadets with 1 year’s JROTC credit through Phase I, with 2 years’ credit through Phase
II, with 3 years’ credit through Phase III, and with 4 years’ credit through Phase IV. Standard promotion
requirements apply; only the rate of advancement is affected.

PS--Will someone PM me if they respond? I don't know if I get any sort of notice if someone responds to my thread.  Thank you!!

 8 
 on: Yesterday at 10:39:28 PM 
Started by Picy3 - Last post by 68w20
Many encampments do not allow students to wear or have a watch so you may want to double-check before bringing one.

Not to sidetrack the thread, but cadets are always allowed to keep and wear watches at encampment if they choose.  Since there is no legitimate training value to confiscating watches, it is improper for cadre to do so.  See CAPP 60-70 (Cadet Encampment Guide), para 2-7(d).

+1 - Of the cadet comments on the critiques from the last encampment, one of the recurring ones
was "wanting to know what we will be doing".  Keeping that from the students is an artificial, and unnecessary
stressor.  We're trying to make better cadets, not nervous ones, and these days a lot
of kids have micro-managed schedules.

They are already off caffeine, sleep deprived, disconnected from the tubes, and away from home.
If knowing what time it is, and where they are expected to be relieves that, even a little, then that will make things
easier on everyone, and reduce the "need" to be yelling by the cadre (which shouldn't be happening anyway.

Assuming I have a say in the matter, next year we'll be including a copy of the schedule in with the encampment
handbook at materials issue.

Done.

You want the schedule finalized before Day 1?  That's just unreasonable.

 9 
 on: Yesterday at 10:38:47 PM 
Started by Picy3 - Last post by Spam


I was at the Georgia Wing 2018 encampment in processing this morning. We observed a vast improvement over recent years in terms of efficiency, lack of (negative) stress, and flow of students (NOT "BASICS") just by virtue of two measures:  (1) improved student adherence to bringing the list, just the list, only the list, and nothing but the list, and (2) cadre refraining from the inappropriate screaming and "knife hand - in your face yelling" type of activity (which might be appropriate for basic military training, but not here).  Students moved quickly and smoothly to and through check in, gear inspection, flight assignment and lunch often with parents watching (i.e. transparency) with the Wing CC and I present as observers.

Picy3, and other cadet students, if you bring extra "nice to haves" you will slow all that down and will make life more complex/difficult. Just stick to the plan/checklist as briefed, ok?

V/r
Spam





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 on: Yesterday at 10:33:51 PM 
Started by darkmatter - Last post by etodd

Do any wings still participate in homeland security missions?


What types of missions are these (In broad terms, not details that would have the OPSEC folks screaming.)

Border patrols maybe? What else would HLS use us for?

(Edited to add that I just noticed our Army ATC training flights as well as JMAC testing are listed as HLS, which sure seems strange, but hey, thats the gov't.)

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