What are you worth?

[Walkman]

Looking at the amount of time many CAP members spend on CAP during a single week, as many as 30 hours, I have two questions to ask.  Do you have a full-time job and are you married?

Married, 5 kids.

The advantage I have is that I own my own business, so I can take time during the day to work on PAO stuff, with out having to worry about the boss.

[SDF_Specialist]

Looking at the amount of time many CAP members spend on CAP during a single week, as many as 30 hours, I have two questions to ask.  Do you have a full-time job and are you married?

Married, 5 kids.

The advantage I have is that I own my own business, so I can take time during the day to work on PAO stuff, with out having to worry about the boss.

If you work out of home, then you do still have to worry about a boss. Most of  us married men call the boss "honey" or "dear".

[Walkman]

If you work out of home, then you do still have to worry about a boss. Most of  us married men call the boss "honey" or "dear".

The whole home-office thing has never really worked for me or my family. I have an office in town. That really made a huge differrence in how smoothly things went.

[SDF_Specialist]

If you work out of home, then you do still have to worry about a boss. Most of  us married men call the boss "honey" or "dear".

The whole home-office thing has never really worked for me or my family. I have an office in town. That really made a huge differrence in how smoothly things went.

Are you an attorney?

[Walkman]

Are you an attorney?

Sorry for the thread drifting...

Nope, not an attorney. I own an advertising agency. www.eurekaville.com

[SDF_Specialist]

Are you an attorney?

Sorry for the thread drifting...

Nope, not an attorney. I own an advertising agency. www.eurekaville.com

Awesome. So has your unit convinced you to print up banners for CAP for things like recruiting?

[Walkman]

Awesome. So has your unit convinced you to print up banners for CAP for things like recruiting?

Actually, I'm the one doing the convincing.   

That's why I asked for the PAO spot. I love what I do. I'm going about this as I would for a client, although my clients have budgets. I've put together a multi-media marketing & PR campaign for the next 12 months. So far, we've had 3 write-ups in the paper, with another one the way when our O-rides come up in a week or so (UTWG's helping out with the Fossett search). My biggest issue is going to be finding some cash to do al lthis stuff.

[SDF_Specialist]

Awesome. So has your unit convinced you to print up banners for CAP for things like recruiting?

Actually, I'm the one doing the convincing.   

That's why I asked for the PAO spot. I love what I do. I'm going about this as I would for a client, although my clients have budgets. I've put together a multi-media marketing & PR campaign for the next 12 months. So far, we've had 3 write-ups in the paper, with another one the way when our O-rides come up in a week or so (UTWG's helping out with the Fossett search). My biggest issue is going to be finding some cash to do al lthis stuff.

Would you be willing to do a freebie for a unit other than your own? Just curious

[Stonewall]

But now, as a father and husband, I couldn't see spending 40+ hours a week at work, then coming home to spend 20 hours on CAP stuff. 

Let it be known Kirt is not a deadbeat dad.  I assume the first reduction in CAP time came when you got married.  The second when your wife says "your staying home with the baby.......I need some time away from the diapers"?  What happens when little Bowden joins CAP, does DAD pick up more hours in a CAP uniform??   

Actually, no.

I was pretty much a full-time CAP guru through 9/11 and when I got hired at the World Bank by the [CAP] Wing Chief of Staff.  My CAP time actually increased because at first, I had a lot of "free time" at work.  In fact, I think I burned out a few printers and copiers.

Around this time, I went to my 10 year high school reunion where I met back up with my wife.  We had known each other since 7th grade but lost contact after graduating high school.  Yadda yadda yadda, she moved up to DC in June of '02 and my level of participation actually increased in CAP.  She joined and became our Safety Officer.  We were doing CAP stuff all the time.  The thing is, we were now living together but because I had so much "free time" at work, I didn't need to do so much CAP work at home.  Just go to meetings and weekend activities, which we did together so I killed two birds with one stone.

When we got married in 2003 and bought a house, I became a squadron commander.  A year or so later, we got a new wing commander who, for years, we hated each other didn't see eye to eye.  She pulled one final hair brained email that sent me over the top and from Moscow, Russia, I sent her an email telling her that I couldn't deal with her BS any longer and was stepping down.  This was 2005ish.

In 2006, when we decided to start a family, we also decided to leave the fast paced DC lifestyle where I was traveling 50% of the time and be near our families.  Everyone in both of or families live in Florida. 

Back to my involvement with CAP...  Here in Florida, I went back to the squadron I grew up in during the late 80s to '91.  It wasn't the same beast.  I went in, attended a few meetings, taught a couple classes and the ask me to be DCC and hinted they needed a new CC.  Hold the phone here folks, I've got a kid coming in a month after we moved to FL and I won't be involved for a while.  That, and I couldn't stand the pansified cadets prominence of home schooled kids who seem to be using CAP to check a box; wearing Hawk Ranger garb to meetings, showing zero interest to fly in our 2006 plane for free; having no interest in doing anything cool other than drill team crap, and just an all around attitude of weakness.

I choose to spend time with my son baby and wife.  I've been attending meetings regularly but keeping my distance from cadets and taking it slow.  I run the squadron website with absolutely no training in building one but I did it anyway so I could say "see, I'm still involved"; and the fact that the previous website was pathetic.

I mean, look at my son.  How could I choose CAP over him?  He's so freakin awesome!


Anyway, it's all been me, my decision.  I chose to step back from CAP and spend time doing stuff for me.  I'm loving my time in the Guard, I like my job, but more importantly I love my family.  I enjoy surfing, working out and shooting.  I've been broken for a month now but we identified the problems and I should be getting better soon (compression fracture and herniated disk).

Last Saturday, my wife and I went to CAP to help run a PT test.  I helped, and she actually did the CPFT in preparation for her AF PFT next month.

So, like I said, I spend about 2 hours a week now.  And I don't count CAP Talk as time spent on CAP.

[TankerT]

Yeah.  That little guy would make a big difference.  (Love his shirt by the way.)

[SAR-EMT1]

Time spent on CAP?

Does time spent here on CAPTalk count? 

[mikeylikey]

^  Good question.  If so, I am worth so much more to CAP then!

[MIKE]

Does time spent here on CAPTalk count? 

If not, a wooden nickle.

[A.Member]

I don't understand the point of this thread or the purpose of the question.  What does it matter?  Seems like a rather silly question to ask.

I'm pretty certain nobody ever joined CAP because it pays well.

[SAR-EMT1]

So if you break my salary down by the hour that would equal about $67.00 per hour, or in other words I give up an additional $2010 in potential earnings per week for CAP.

Never underestimate your value, if CAP had to pay for your services they would not get it for less.

With all due respect and awe... What the heck do you do for living?

I spend about 6-8 hours a week on CAPtalk, 2 hours a week at the Squadron and about an hour a day on work related to my squadron duties. My pay at work is only ten bucks an hour.     ... Why doesnt EMS get paid as well as all the other healthcare workers?