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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: BillB on May 28, 2011, 12:39:45 AM

Title: We're in trouble
Post by: BillB on May 28, 2011, 12:39:45 AM
OK CAPTalkers, we're in trouble. One of the regulars according to NOTF is in the running for National Commander. How do I delete all my posts before he sees them??????
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: Al Sayre on May 28, 2011, 03:09:47 AM
Too late Bill, I'm pretty sure FW's already got your number... ;)

But since you brought it up.

CAP/CC Candidates:

BGen Charles CARR
Col Fred Weiss (FW)

CAP/CV Candidates:

Col Jim Rushing
Col Joe Vasquez
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: a2capt on May 28, 2011, 03:10:58 AM
Too Late.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: arajca on May 28, 2011, 04:17:49 AM
Look on the bright side - he's gotten alot of ideas from everyone already. He has some knowledge about many of the troublemaker ACTIVIST members already.


on second thought, you're right. We're screwed
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: FW on May 28, 2011, 01:19:09 PM
No, you're not in trouble...

On a side note; I don't remember so few stepping up for such important positions in the last 20 years.  I know the work is difficult however, that's why we have over 61 thousand members to help out.  Our membership needs not to worry about getting "shot down" when properly stating opinions on how to improve CAP. 
We may not be a democracy however, we are an organization which is of benefit to its members and, IMHO, the members need clear channels of communications to express concerns.  CAP Talk has been a great informal method.  Now we need to understand what the "chain of command " really means in CAP. 

Leadership has a duty to understand what needs to be done to accomplish the mission and, that can only be done with a clear understanding of member needs, organizational goals and, oh yes, what that mission is.  And, after 34 years of "living" with CAP (22 of them in leadership positions), I have a good idea where we stand.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: RADIOMAN015 on May 28, 2011, 02:08:47 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on May 28, 2011, 03:09:47 AM
Too late Bill, I'm pretty sure FW's already got your number... ;)

But since you brought it up.

CAP/CC Candidates:

BGen Charles CARR
Col Fred Weiss (FW)

CAP/CV Candidates:

Col Jim Rushing
Col Joe Vasquez
Seems to me that the last two CAP members selected have been from a "minority" race/ethnic class.  Will this continue with this selection period ???   How strong is CAP diversity goals and how does it affect voting for a National Commander & Vice Commander ???   Again my comments are not against (or for) any of the candidates above BUT it just seems that way from my membership time in CAP.
RM 
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on May 28, 2011, 02:22:55 PM
I highly doubt that race or ethnicity play into it at all. No one cares what race or ethnicity someone in leadership is so long as they can lead well. Any one who thinks that it does needs an ethics check.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: PHall on May 28, 2011, 03:18:19 PM
Quote from: FW on May 28, 2011, 01:19:09 PM
No, you're not in trouble...

On a side note; I don't remember so few stepping up for such important positions in the last 20 years.  I know the work is difficult however, that's why we have over 61 thousand members to help out.  Our membership needs not to worry about getting "shot down" when properly stating opinions on how to improve CAP. 


Well, when you have people like Ray Hayden out there writing a bunch of trash about you, true or not, kinda makes you think twice.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: FW on May 28, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
When you run for a national level position, I would think you would need to think more than "twice" before dealing with what will follow.

The exchange of ideas should be welcomed.  Dissent should be embraced and, a true focus of what needs to be accomplished must not waive.
(I'm paraphrasing Drucker; BTW).

Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: Eclipse on May 28, 2011, 03:55:32 PM
Quote from: FW on May 28, 2011, 03:31:24 PM(I'm paraphrasing Drucker; BTW).

A wiser man you will never find...
(http://www.maggiore.net/greenacres/images/cast_mrdrucker.jpg)
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: FW on May 28, 2011, 05:00:57 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 28, 2011, 03:55:32 PM
Quote from: FW on May 28, 2011, 03:31:24 PM(I'm paraphrasing Drucker; BTW).

A wiser man you will never find...
(http://www.maggiore.net/greenacres/images/cast_mrdrucker.jpg)

Sam's good however, I was thinking of Pete... ;D
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: flyboy53 on May 28, 2011, 11:31:47 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on May 28, 2011, 03:09:47 AM
Too late Bill, I'm pretty sure FW's already got your number... ;)

But since you brought it up.

CAP/CC Candidates:

BGen Charles CARR
Col Fred Weiss (FW)

CAP/CV Candidates:

Col Jim Rushing
Col Joe Vasquez

Really? One of the regulars that I've been trading quips with?

Boy!  Good Luck!

Hope that doesn't end your posts.....I've really enjoyed your insight.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: Senior on May 29, 2011, 12:39:44 AM
Okay just a question.  What is NOTF? ???
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: disamuel on May 29, 2011, 12:42:10 AM
Col.  Weiss, if you end up becoming the national commander, will we still see you on CapTalk?

Best of luck sir.

:)
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: ColonelJack on May 29, 2011, 01:05:57 AM
Col. Weiss ... if I had a vote, you'd have it, sir.

As it is, you have my total support.

All the best ...

Jack
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: PHall on May 29, 2011, 01:44:12 AM
Quote from: Senior on May 29, 2011, 12:39:44 AM
Okay just a question.  What is NOTF? ???

News of the Force. Google it.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: JC004 on May 29, 2011, 02:53:59 AM
Quote from: FW on May 28, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
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The exchange of ideas should be welcomed.  Dissent should be embraced and, a true focus of what needs to be accomplished must not waive.
(I'm paraphrasing Drucker; BTW).

I think the establishment of a structure and culture that allows for the exchange of ideas and seizing on the untapped potential of the greater membership is of the highest priority.

Technology should also be embraced.  There is no reason that CAP cannot only catch up to industry standards but also innovate in this area, setting a higher standard.

Drucker did quite a bit of non-profit sector work.  I have a lot of his things in my collection.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: JC004 on May 29, 2011, 03:57:55 PM
With a the new election, I posted a BUMP on the topic of what you'd do if you were National Commander.  People have an opportunity to make proposals that will be seen and possibly implemented, so discuss.

http://captalk.net/index.php?topic=2426.120

Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: AngelWings on May 29, 2011, 05:01:39 PM
 Good luck FW, espically with the scars you have from us crazy CAPTalkers  ;)
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: JeffDG on May 29, 2011, 06:06:58 PM
Quote from: Littleguy on May 29, 2011, 05:01:39 PM
Good luck FW, espically with the scars you have from us crazy CAPTalkers  ;)
Well, the good news for him, if successful, is that he already has all the answers...we've solved all of CAP's problems many, many, many times here... ;D
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: BillB on May 29, 2011, 06:51:50 PM
JefDG

Except for Uniforms
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: JeffDG on May 29, 2011, 07:41:27 PM
Quote from: BillB on May 29, 2011, 06:51:50 PM
JefDG

Except for Uniforms
In that case, it's been solved many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, times.   8)
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: MSG Mac on May 30, 2011, 05:03:47 AM
Quote from: FW on May 28, 2011, 01:19:09 PMOn a side note; I don't remember so few stepping up for such important positions in the last 20 years.

There are always a few nominations from the floor before the position statements and balloting are conducted.

Good Luck Fred!! You'll be the first National commander from NER.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: James Shaw on May 30, 2011, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: FW on May 28, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
The exchange of ideas should be welcomed.  Dissent should be embraced and, a true focus of what needs to be accomplished must not waive.
(I'm paraphrasing Drucker; BTW).

So does that mean that I wont be replaced when I continue my history of not being a "yes man"?
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: Major Carrales on May 30, 2011, 09:45:55 PM
Best of Luck. Col. Weiss.  CAPTALKERS are a varied bunch...hopefully I have made no offenses over the years that are not irreparable.

For the sake of history, I recall the unfortunate instance of another regular CAPTALKER who was once made a WING COMMANDER for a day and then was never heard from again. :(  May that never be repeated.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: JC004 on May 30, 2011, 10:39:49 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on May 30, 2011, 05:03:47 AM
...
You'll be the first National commander from NER.

Wait...whaaaaaaat?

Quote from: Major Carrales on May 30, 2011, 09:45:55 PM
...
I recall the unfortunate instance of another regular CAPTALKER who was once made a WING COMMANDER for a day and then was never heard from again. :(  May that never be repeated.

I have heard from Col Weiss that he plans to have all of the black vans repainted as white, with consistent branding, and distributed to the units, so I am sure wing commanders won't be disappearing.  heh heh.   >:D >:D
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: FW on May 30, 2011, 10:53:48 PM
Quote from: caphistorian on May 30, 2011, 09:32:14 PM
Quote from: FW on May 28, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
The exchange of ideas should be welcomed.  Dissent should be embraced and, a true focus of what needs to be accomplished must not waive.
(I'm paraphrasing Drucker; BTW).

So does that mean that I wont be replaced when I continue my history of not being a "yes man"?

How could CAP replace such talent as you, Len and Ed....  I mean who else wants to do what you do so well?   ;D
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: FW on May 30, 2011, 10:57:19 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on May 30, 2011, 09:45:55 PM
Best of Luck. Col. Weiss.  CAPTALKERS are a varied bunch...hopefully I have made no offenses over the years that are not irreparable.

For the sake of history, I recall the unfortunate instance of another regular CAPTALKER who was once made a WING COMMANDER for a day and then was never heard from again. :(  May that never be repeated.

Sparky, I've enjoyed all your posts; whether I've agreed with them or not....
And, no matter what the outcome of the election, I will not forgo one of my favorite past times; contributing to CAP Talk.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: NHQ-OS-126 Frank on May 31, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
Col. Weiss,

Good luck for the elections.

Frank
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: FW on June 15, 2011, 12:58:24 AM
Thanks for all the well wishes and "nice words".  I want you all to know, I am listening.

Now that summer is closing in and there are about 8 weeks to go until the election, I invite you to watch for the new website: "ourCAP.org"   

It's my new website (currently under construction) and, will expand on my platform and vision which is now on my Facebook page (Col Fredric Weiss).

More to Follow...  ;)
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: JC004 on June 15, 2011, 01:53:02 AM
Newsletter sign-up will be on that website soon, so be sure to sign up when that's there.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: JC004 on June 17, 2011, 03:27:27 PM
Hello, people!

The new site for Colonel Weiss is coming soon. 

In the meantime, head on over to learn a little about Colonel Weiss's background (more to come) and sign up for e-mail notifications:

http://www.ourcap.org/

Please also take the time to Like his Facebook Page (linked on the site as well).
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: kmbarnes1 on June 17, 2011, 05:11:27 PM
Can you tell those of us who don't know about what is going on? Is there a general election where all CAP members get a vote (doubtful) or .... ? I'm still new to CAP and trying to learn about this. Is there a regulation(s) you could point me to?
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: JC004 on June 17, 2011, 05:21:53 PM
This is an election for National Commander and National Vice Commander by the corporate officers (wing and region commanders, as well as half a dozen national staff - these all make up the National Board). 

We are asking members to support Col Weiss with their National Board members and to begin engagement which will hopefully lead to taking the members' thoughts, ideas, and talents - putting them into action with Colonel Weiss as National Commander.  Members will have the opportunity to ask questions, get answers, and begin the process of member engagement that will help the organization go forward.
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: HGjunkie on June 17, 2011, 05:25:07 PM
I'm supporting so I can get that bug off my screen.  :P

Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: bosshawk on June 17, 2011, 06:16:53 PM
Why get rid of it: it is so CAP?
Title: Re: We're in trouble
Post by: ol'fido on June 17, 2011, 09:21:34 PM
If we all get stuff that symbolizes CAP for our signature blocks, can I get a mushroom-KITD/FOHS. ;D