CAP fleet diversification?

Started by NovemberWhiskey, April 24, 2019, 10:48:18 AM

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Quote from: lordmonar on April 24, 2019, 07:09:58 PM
Quote from: NIN on April 24, 2019, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Color Guard Rifleman on April 24, 2019, 03:42:03 PM
So it is just C-172/182/152's?

Cessna 172s, 182s and 206s

We have no 152s.  I'm not even sure Cessna makes them anymore. EDIT: Cessna doesn't even manufacture that airplane anymore.
Doesn't AKWG have some odd aircraft too?   I thought they still had some Mauls and various float planes out there.

Some are still able to have them reattached if they are not permanently attached but they don't use them for O-Flights, only sorties or SAR aircrew missions is what I have heard
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Quote from: lordmonar on April 24, 2019, 07:09:58 PM

Doesn't AKWG have some odd aircraft too?   I thought they still had some Mauls and various float planes out there.

There are a number of Maules I believe. I know of at least one here in the Southeast. Got checked out in it last summer.
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Quote from: lordmonar on April 24, 2019, 07:09:58 PM
Quote from: NIN on April 24, 2019, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Color Guard Rifleman on April 24, 2019, 03:42:03 PM
So it is just C-172/182/152's?

Cessna 172s, 182s and 206s

We have no 152s.  I'm not even sure Cessna makes them anymore. EDIT: Cessna doesn't even manufacture that airplane anymore.
Doesn't AKWG have some odd aircraft too?   I thought they still had some Mauls and various float planes out there.
They used to, like Beavers and 180s.

But the "one offs" have been whittled down over the years due to maintenance and supportability. Costs a lot to keep a 50 year old Beaver with a radial (that isn't used by other fleet aircraft) flying. Even in Alaska.

Maules are still around in places as tow aircraft.
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PHall

Quote from: NIN on April 24, 2019, 09:04:25 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on April 24, 2019, 07:09:58 PM
Quote from: NIN on April 24, 2019, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Color Guard Rifleman on April 24, 2019, 03:42:03 PM
So it is just C-172/182/152's?

Cessna 172s, 182s and 206s

We have no 152s.  I'm not even sure Cessna makes them anymore. EDIT: Cessna doesn't even manufacture that airplane anymore.
Doesn't AKWG have some odd aircraft too?   I thought they still had some Mauls and various float planes out there.
They used to, like Beavers and 180s.

But the "one offs" have been whittled down over the years due to maintenance and supportability. Costs a lot to keep a 50 year old Beaver with a radial (that isn't used by other fleet aircraft) flying. Even in Alaska.

Maules are still around in places as tow aircraft.

Which is what they were brought for, glider tow planes.

NIN



Quote from: PHall on April 24, 2019, 11:17:40 PM
Quote from: NIN on April 24, 2019, 09:04:25 PM
Maules are still around in places as tow aircraft.
Which is what they were brought for, glider tow planes.

Really, Phil? I thought it was for their dashing looks and witty after-dinner repartee..



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Fubar

I'm surprised there's concern about having longer air sorties. Most the pilots I know refuse to stay in the air for much more than an hour because of the biological need for a break :D

PHall

Quote from: Fubar on April 25, 2019, 03:02:30 AM
I'm surprised there's concern about having longer air sorties. Most the pilots I know refuse to stay in the air for much more than an hour because of the biological need for a break :D

You must fly with some real wimps.  Out here in the west 2.5 hours is pretty much the norm.
We aim for an hour in grid plus travel time to the grid and back.

etodd

Quote from: PHall on April 25, 2019, 03:13:01 AM
Quote from: Fubar on April 25, 2019, 03:02:30 AM
I'm surprised there's concern about having longer air sorties. Most the pilots I know refuse to stay in the air for much more than an hour because of the biological need for a break :D

You must fly with some real wimps.  Out here in the west 2.5 hours is pretty much the norm.
We aim for an hour in grid plus travel time to the grid and back.

With these I can outlast the fuel tanks.   ;D ;D ;D

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PHall

Quote from: etodd on April 25, 2019, 03:31:56 AM
Quote from: PHall on April 25, 2019, 03:13:01 AM
Quote from: Fubar on April 25, 2019, 03:02:30 AM
I'm surprised there's concern about having longer air sorties. Most the pilots I know refuse to stay in the air for much more than an hour because of the biological need for a break :D

You must fly with some real wimps.  Out here in the west 2.5 hours is pretty much the norm.
We aim for an hour in grid plus travel time to the grid and back.

With these I can outlast the fuel tanks.   ;D ;D ;D



Do a search for "Brief Relief".

SarDragon

There are currently five Maules - two in NER, and three in SER. The DHC-2 Beavers are all gone. There are 16 GA-8s - four in AK, and the remainder scattered around. Alaska has three  A185F Skywagons. The remainder of the fleet is all Cessna - 172, 182, and 206.
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I believe that NYWG and CTWG have been sharing one of the GA-8's... FWIW
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SarDragon

I just took the info out of WMIRS, which says that they are assigned to the respective regions, not any individual wing.
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NIN

It seems that the 206s, GA-8s and MT-7s wind up being "region floaters" where they get based in a particular wing for a particular purpose or mission, and they do sometimes "move around" .

We had one of the NER 206s up here a few years ago, long enough to get some folks checked out.  The problem is, its hard to stay current because it moves. You get checked out, then the plane goes away.

I know at least one of the NER Maules gets used at Springfield, VT for glider tow at the glider academy and for summer glider ops.  Not sure if the other one comes up here, or if its flying gliders further south.
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And this pertains to fleet diversification in what way?
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etodd

Quote from: PHall on April 25, 2019, 04:57:50 AM

Do a search for "Brief Relief".

The travel johns are the same thing, but cheaper. :)
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