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Started by dmkagey, September 21, 2021, 02:55:00 PM

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dmkagey

Question...I think I am correct, but can't find the reg
Are you allowed to do your Form 5 in your personal aircraft...non reimbursable

TheSkyHornet

CAPR 70-1:
Quote7.2.1. To operate as PIC in a CAP aircraft, a member must pass a Form 5 in each CAP aircraft
make/model that they desire to fly.

7.2.2. For aircraft qualification purposes, an initial Form 5 in any of the following model
groupings counts as a CAP Pilot Flight Evaluation for all models listed in that grouping:

7.2.2.1. C182QSP counts for C182
7.2.2.2. C206SP counts for C206, C205, and C207
7.2.2.3. SGS 2-33 and SGU 2-22 are considered equivalent gliders
7.2.2.4. AX6-55, AX7-77, and AX8-90 are considered equivalent balloons

7.6.5. To administer a Form 5 in a member-owned/furnished aircraft, the CAP Check Pilot
conducting the evaluation must be FAA qualified in the category and class of aircraft being flown. See
paragraph 9.2.1.1. for guidance on member-owned/furnished aircraft approval requirements.

9.2.1. CAP corporate aircraft are the resource of choice for AFAMs. Except for gliders and
balloons, member owned/furnished aircraft will only be used on AFAMs when CAP corporate aircraft are
not available or when mission requirements dictate the usage of non-corporate aircraft.

9.2.1.1. The use of member owned/furnished aircraft (other than gliders and balloons)
requires wing or higher commander approval for corporate missions and CAP-USAF Liaison Region
Commander or higher approval for each AFAM in which the aircraft's use is requested.

9.2.1.2. Requests for use of member-owned/furnished aircraft will not be approved unless a
copy of the airworthiness certificate, Hold Harmless Agreement (HHA) and CAPF 71 are on file with the
CAP-USAF LR for AFAMs or the Wing Commander or designee for Corporate Missions. Copies of the
airworthiness certificate, HHA and CAPF 71 should be uploaded to the WMIRS mission files for reference
when used since the use of member-owned/furnished aircraft is rare. HHAs will be valid for 1 year from
the date of approval.

Eclipse

From experience I can say that in 99% of the cases the answer is "no", with the
only justification generally being that there is no CAP plane stationed within
a "reasonable" distance from the member's home squadron, which of course then
raises the question of "when are you going to fly for CAP if there's no aircraft
close enough to even do a Form 5?"

CAP wants to see people with some hands-on with their aircraft and procedures
before it certifies them for autonomous use, so that's usually a few hours with
another member for familiarization before an F5.

The other thing a lot of members forget, or don't realize, is that the planes...fly.
So they can come to them with the right arrangements (and potential expense of transport fuel).

You can often get a Form 5 during other activities like flight academies or O-rides days
as long as things are arranged in advance.




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