CAP Aircraft Searching for Steve Fossett

SDF_Specialist · September 07, 2007, 09:28:35 PM

Quote from: RiverAux on September 07, 2007, 08:41:01 PM
I was disappointed that the DoD left CAP out of their story on the Fossett search that ran on the Military Channel's "Around the Services" series today. Just talked about the Air National Guard.

Face it sir, it's hard to get publicity for this organization. CAP is just not that important in the eyes of many, and it's unfortunate. This is a great organization that I'm proud to serve in. We need publicity.

RiverAux · September 07, 2007, 09:47:18 PM

Well, I don't think its out of line for the DoD to mention all their assets involved in the search, including CAP.

RiverAux · September 07, 2007, 10:01:14 PM

Oh the other thing is....whats up with the CA and NV wing web sites? No news at all about this search!

DrDave · September 07, 2007, 10:14:58 PM

No one's home at their HQ's, they're all out looking for Fossett!

Dr. Dave

RiverAux · September 07, 2007, 11:52:11 PM

Just an aside -- a CAP plane in Colorado found 2 missing hikers in Colorado this week.

BlackKnight · September 08, 2007, 01:33:25 AM

I was listening to a Colorado radio station on the internet the day those hikers were found. CAP got very good coverage in the local news reports. They mentioned the hikers right after reporting on the Fossett search.

Al Sayre · September 08, 2007, 01:36:47 AM

If we keep this up, we might not be the "best kept secret" anymore...

CASH172 · September 08, 2007, 01:43:12 AM

I was just wondering something, does Steve Fossett even know who we are? It'd be weird if the lead agency involved in one of the biggest search operations in the area hasn't even heard of CAP.

pixelwonk · September 08, 2007, 02:43:33 AM

I'm certain he does, and I bet he's met a bunch of CAP members at the various places he's been to, like say, EAA.
But if he hadn't, would it matter much?

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It'd be weird if the lead agency involved in one of the biggest search operations in the area hasn't even heard of CAP.

Uh, CAP has not heard of CAP?

Major Lord · September 08, 2007, 02:45:19 AM

And you thought that the new generation of ELTs would put us out of the SAR buisness? I guess old fashioned SAR techniques still have some value. I still hope that we will find Mr. Fosset eating Buffalo Burgers at the Catalina Island airport, blissfully unaware that everyone is looking for him....

Major Lord

SJFedor · September 08, 2007, 02:47:48 AM

Quote from: tedda on September 08, 2007, 02:43:33 AM
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It'd be weird if the lead agency involved in one of the biggest search operations in the area hasn't even heard of CAP.
Uh, CAP has not heard of CAP?

Carlos Mencia says it best....

durh-da-durh.

Just playing. Don't smite me.

I hope we find something. Otherwise, about 2 weeks from now, CNN is going to go from singing our praises to singing "Why are we (the tax payers) paying to fund this organization and it's activities when they can't even find an old rich guy in a taildragger?"

SJFedor · September 08, 2007, 02:48:40 AM

Quote from: CaptLord on September 08, 2007, 02:45:19 AM
And you thought that the new generation of ELTs would put us out of the SAR buisness? I guess old fashioned SAR techniques still have some value. I still hope that we will find Mr. Fosset eating Buffalo Burgers at the Catalina Island airport, blissfully unaware that everyone is looking for him....

Major Lord

That's cuz it's Steve Fossett that's missing. If it was Steve Fedor that went missing, I'd be impressed if I got a 2 person UDF team out looking for me. And I don't even emit a signal!

CASH172 · September 08, 2007, 03:51:56 AM

Quote from: tedda on September 08, 2007, 02:43:33 AM
I'm certain he does, and I bet he's met a bunch of CAP members at the various places he's been to, like say, EAA.
But if he hadn't, would it matter much?

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It'd be weird if the lead agency involved in one of the biggest search operations in the area hasn't even heard of CAP.
Uh, CAP has not heard of CAP?

Opps I think you guys know what I meant, but if you didn't I meant that it'd be weird if Steve Fossett hadn't even heard of the lead agency looking for him.

JC004 · September 08, 2007, 03:54:17 AM

Quote from: SJFedor on September 08, 2007, 02:48:40 AM

That's cuz it's Steve Fossett that's missing. If it was Steve Fedor that went missing, I'd be impressed if I got a 2 person UDF team out looking for me. And I don't even emit a signal!

Actually, I have a team constantly on standby, prepared to search for you.

No, wait, that's Ski...

SJFedor · September 08, 2007, 03:58:26 AM

Ski needs a big balloon or flag tied to him and one of those phones that does the GPS tracking so you know where he is at all times.

Speaking of, I'm surprised that Steve Fossett didn't have one of those toys. I know if I was rich and famous, I'd have one.

mikeylikey · September 08, 2007, 04:20:56 AM

Quote from: JC004 on September 08, 2007, 03:54:17 AM
Quote from: SJFedor on September 08, 2007, 02:48:40 AM

That's cuz it's Steve Fossett that's missing. If it was Steve Fedor that went missing, I'd be impressed if I got a 2 person UDF team out looking for me. And I don't even emit a signal!

Actually, I have a team constantly on standby, prepared to search for you.

No, wait, that's Ski...

Inside joke? Cause if it was......I laughed anyway!

flyerthom · September 08, 2007, 04:44:31 AM

Greeting from MEV. No joy today.
many CAP aircraft, a GA 8, a C 130, NV National guard, Naval Air Station Fallon (where Topgun is now) , Police rotor, and some personal aircraft working in non CAP areas . Strong police presence for media control. A ton big media vans. Major Ryan is a very nice person.

Things are complicated by the amount of old mining material left out in the desert. We flew around a couple of prospects only to find out they were old pieces of steel. There are also a few old abandoned runways out there.

wingnut · September 08, 2007, 06:24:44 AM

Latest News
We are in the process of recovering our final wave of aircraft at this time. Utah Wing is providing additional leads with ARCHER. Several false ELT signals were df'ed as well as locating a few known wrecks. Early in the afternoon, we had a report of a SAR asset crashing in Nevada. That proved to be a mis-communication regarding a witness seeing an old crash site.

So far today and counting, we had 13 aircraft, 41 personnel, flew 20 sorties, 2000 sq. miles.

To date, California has used 26 aircraft, flown 177.4 hours, 69 sorties, 1822 man-hours in grid.

Today I flew 7.8 hours in the Mountains of Yosemite, 12,000 ft peaks all around. We are operating with the greatest professionalism. The Hiltons flew lunch to us on a Lear jet. Steve Fossett is an Icon to the rich and Famous and the powerful, all are greatful for those of us taking a week off to fly in desert canyons. I am very proud of the guys and gals that are here. But more importantly CAP is in the front and we are doing what we do best. To all of you who blog here your part of the same team wear the uniform with pride because we are. I know you would all be here to help if you could.

Bob Kirby
Capt. Squadron 35
Whiteman Airport, Pacoima Ca.

mawr · September 08, 2007, 06:44:29 AM

Well put, wingnut! God speed to your search.

ZigZag911 · September 08, 2007, 06:36:30 PM

Aboiut noon EDT I saw a FOX news clip reporting current situation in the search, mentioning the old crash sites found in the course of the search, and how these are complicating matters.

Maj. Ryan did a fine job explaining how these 'finds' bring closure to families who have lacked it, in some cases for more than 30 years, and also helps narrow down the parameters of the ongoing search mission.