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Title: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: vento on April 28, 2010, 04:16:03 PM
New edition of the Volunteer is out.
http://www.capvolunteernow.com/cap_volunteer/

Best part, the round emblem is back on the cover, the triangle that made "vOlunteer" look like "vAlunteer" is gone!  :)  :clap:
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: Flying Pig on April 28, 2010, 04:48:52 PM
Page 17.   

Riverside County Sheriff is going to be a little upset.  That isnt one of their helicopters.  They fly AS350B3's.  Quite a bit differnet than an Enstrom.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: bosshawk on April 28, 2010, 04:54:50 PM
Rob: you don't expect accuracy to get in the way of hype, do you?
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: mynetdude on April 28, 2010, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: vento on April 28, 2010, 04:16:03 PM
New edition of the Volunteer is out.
http://www.capvolunteernow.com/cap_volunteer/

Best part, the round emblem is back on the cover, the triangle that made "vOlunteer" look like "vAlunteer" is gone!  :)  :clap:

True but it seems that the website's graphics at the top still shows vAlunteer :P
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: a2capt on April 28, 2010, 06:33:36 PM
They need to just STOP IT.

Stick with ONE logo, identity, seal, crest, thing, whatever. But STICK WITH IT.

It's INSANE.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: JC004 on April 28, 2010, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: a2capt on April 28, 2010, 06:33:36 PM
They need to just STOP IT.

Stick with ONE logo, identity, seal, crest, thing, whatever. But STICK WITH IT.

It's INSANE.

And that's really all that needs to be said.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: RiverAux on April 28, 2010, 10:16:05 PM
Quote from: vento on April 28, 2010, 04:16:03 PM
Best part, the round emblem is back on the cover, the triangle that made "vOlunteer" look like "vAlunteer" is gone!  :)  :clap:
I'm a little bit mad at myself for not noticing it when I downloaded it a few days ago, especially since I've been one to mouth off about it.  Thanks for listening NHQ!
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: Pylon on April 28, 2010, 11:14:05 PM
They changed it on the cover, but forgot to change it on the masthead on page 1?  Really?
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: mynetdude on April 29, 2010, 12:10:49 AM
My point exactly pylon
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: A.Member on April 29, 2010, 02:23:49 AM
Quote from: vento on April 28, 2010, 04:16:03 PM
New edition of the Volunteer is out.
http://www.capvolunteernow.com/cap_volunteer/

Best part, the round emblem is back on the cover, the triangle that made "vOlunteer" look like "vAlunteer" is gone!  :)  :clap:
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Perhaps there is hope?!

Quote from: Pylon on April 28, 2010, 11:14:05 PM
They changed it on the cover, but forgot to change it on the masthead on page 1?  Really?
Then again... :-\

Like many things coming out of National lately....so close, yet so far.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: JC004 on April 30, 2010, 02:42:47 AM
Quote from: Pylon on April 28, 2010, 11:14:05 PM
They changed it on the cover, but forgot to change it on the masthead on page 1?  Really?

Clearly, you do not understand CAP's branding approach.  Our approach is "variety."  Pick your own logo, pick your own uniform combo...mix 'em up a little...

Oh!  I forgot about THIS logo...

(http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/NOC_8612EE3AA6422.jpg)
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: wingnut55 on April 30, 2010, 10:56:55 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on April 28, 2010, 04:48:52 PM
Page 17.   

Riverside County Sheriff is going to be a little upset.  That isnt one of their helicopters.  They fly AS350B3's.  Quite a bit differnet than an Enstrom.

That is Maj. Kilholtz' personal Helicopter.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: Rotorhead on April 30, 2010, 11:55:40 AM
Quote from: Flying Pig on April 28, 2010, 04:48:52 PM
Page 17.   

Riverside County Sheriff is going to be a little upset.  That isnt one of their helicopters.  They fly AS350B3's.  Quite a bit differnet than an Enstrom.
Reason #386 why posed pictures aren't as good..
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: Flying Pig on April 30, 2010, 02:08:00 PM
Oh? Well someone obviously provided that photo to the magazine for publication.  A local LE a helicopter did the rescue, and then a  photo submitted is of a members personal helicopter that wasnt even involved?
Maybe a photo of who actually did the night time rescue in a helicopter, in bad weather on NVGs would be in order.  You know, get the names of the RSO aircrew and throw in a few sentences about them and their operation and a photo of STAR 9 and how CAP was able to work with them.  Instead, them coming and performing the actual "rescue" was almost an after thought.  I know its a CAP Magazine, but dont we pride ourselves on our ability to work with other rescue organizations?
Here, let me throw up a shout out for my RSO brethren....

http://www.alea.org/PhotoGallery/gallery.asp?rid=134&gid=178
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: Tater on April 30, 2010, 06:23:33 PM
Right on, Rob.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: A.Member on April 30, 2010, 06:39:23 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on April 30, 2010, 02:08:00 PM
Oh? Well someone obviously provided that photo to the magazine for publication.  A local LE a helicopter did the rescue, and then a  photo submitted is of a members personal helicopter that wasnt even involved?
Maybe a photo of who actually did the night time rescue in a helicopter, in bad weather on NVGs would be in order.  You know, get the names of the RSO aircrew and throw in a few sentences about them and their operation and a photo of STAR 9 and how CAP was able to work with them.  Instead, them coming and performing the actual "rescue" was almost an after thought.  I know its a CAP Magazine, but dont we pride ourselves on our ability to work with other rescue organizations?
Here, let me throw up a shout out for my RSO brethren....

http://www.alea.org/PhotoGallery/gallery.asp?rid=134&gid=178
I have no knowledge of the event aside from what was posted here and listed in the article.  However, if what you say is true (and I have no reason to believe it's not), you're dead on!

The PAO ought to be admonished from for including that photo and caption.  In addition, a correction should be included prominently in the next release.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: Mustang on April 30, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
The lead photo for CLA is probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in that publication.

Another poor choice of words here:

QuoteWeeks said her 2004 CLA participation had a considerable impact. "The cross-fertilization that happens through top cadet leaders sharing best practices and working through problems is one of the greatest parts of the activity," she said.
"Cross-fertilization" huh? I'm sure there WAS plenty of that going on in the night hours, although I'm not sure I'd call it a "best practice".
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: indygreg on April 30, 2010, 08:47:52 PM
I know that this is a bit of a hijack, but when does the magazine come in the mail?  I have yet to receive one.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: RiverAux on April 30, 2010, 09:03:35 PM
They usually seem to have it online somewhere around 2-5 weeks before I get my copy, though I haven't kept close track. 
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: JC004 on May 01, 2010, 07:08:13 AM
Quote from: Mustang on April 30, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
The lead photo for CLA is probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in that publication.

Another poor choice of words here:

QuoteWeeks said her 2004 CLA participation had a considerable impact. "The cross-fertilization that happens through top cadet leaders sharing best practices and working through problems is one of the greatest parts of the activity," she said.
"Cross-fertilization" huh? I'm sure there WAS plenty of that going on in the night hours, although I'm not sure I'd call it a "best practice".

I fertilized a lot at that activity. 
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: JC004 on May 02, 2010, 05:51:28 AM
Agh.  The logo lives.  It's in the NEC PowerPoint.   :(

WHY, NHQ?!  WHY DO WE DESERVE THIS?!  WHAT DID WE DO TO YOU?! 

Two words (Google it): style guide.  Approve it and send it out to the members.  Enforce it.  Use it.  Follow it.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: Capt Rivera on May 02, 2010, 02:50:08 PM
What if some of our professionals in the field collaborate and develop a grass roots style guide that others may choose to follow until something official comes around... they may pass that guide through the chain for review and maybe the ball will get rolling?

We have had similar discussions where we talked about signatures but never really tried to standardize one that we could choose to use (not that I'm aware of), thus making some consistency. A drop in the bucket, I know, but I've seen the same take place internally at the fortune 500 I work for and grow organically in a rapid way...

Anyway... what would it take for an official one? A Wing or Region CC proposing that one get created by x committee within y amount of time? A vote happens and then work starts?   - I guess this is a drift... maybe someone will take the idea on in another thread...
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: BuckeyeDEJ on May 02, 2010, 04:05:19 PM
Quote from: JC004 on April 30, 2010, 02:42:47 AM
Oh!  I forgot about THIS logo...
(http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/NOC_8612EE3AA6422.jpg)

I have a logo THIS BIG,
and it has Excedrin
written all over it.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: BuckeyeDEJ on May 02, 2010, 05:00:29 PM
I haven't even opened up the magazine and I noticed a faux pas on the cover -- the markings on the airplane's wings are backward. The rondel goes on the left (pilot's side) upper wing and right lower wing, the "CAP" on the other side.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: DBlair on May 04, 2010, 01:04:09 AM
Page 26.

Ribbon Rack... Most of those ribbons are RM, but I was curious about the white with blue ribbon at the end of the stack. Any ideas as to what that is?
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: Flying Pig on May 04, 2010, 02:04:53 AM
Its white and Green.  Vietnam Campain Medal.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: Eclipse on May 04, 2010, 02:29:17 AM
Quote from: JC004 on April 30, 2010, 02:42:47 AM
(http://www.capmembers.com/media/cms/NOC_8612EE3AA6422.jpg)

Assuming this doesn't violate the flag code, it definitely needs a stroke to separate the tri-prop from the
flag.
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: JC004 on May 04, 2010, 04:25:21 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on May 04, 2010, 02:29:17 AM
Assuming this doesn't violate the flag code, it definitely needs a stroke to separate the tri-prop from the
flag.

I was assuming that too, but I was tempted to check...
Title: Re: APR-JUN Volunteer Magazine is out and the triangle on the cover is gone!
Post by: BuckeyeDEJ on May 10, 2010, 05:46:20 AM
The logo, which is definitely off-topic in this thread, is just an example of poor conceptualization and execution. Did the guy who did that logo do the one for the U.S. Ranger Corps?  :P