PT Test

TheGooseLover · October 15, 2015, 08:33:49 PM

I am a C/SrA and have passed PT for SSgt. That means my next will be harder. I have no issues with push-ups or sit-ups, I get 50 Push-ups and 65 sit-ups average, but I can't run a mile for my life. I have mild asthma but it gets bad when I get a high heart rate, exp. running. I don't want to wimp out and ask to waive my pt, any suggestions?

And no, I'm not out of shape, I just need ideas on getting passed my asthma

TheGooseLover · October 15, 2015, 08:38:27 PM

Apologize to the moderators for identical posts, I thought one didn't go through and wrote another. Feel free to delete one, preferably the other one, thanks!

arajca · October 15, 2015, 08:40:27 PM

Talk with your doctor. They'll have proper information for you. If they say no mile, then get a letter from them saying so. Having a Category 3 waiver (permanent partial waiver) will not impede you passing your Spaatz.

PS you only need to post the same question once.

TheGooseLover · October 15, 2015, 08:41:28 PM

Thank you for the information! And yes, I apologize, that was a accident on my part.

cnitas · October 15, 2015, 08:51:14 PM

First, talk to your Doctor, and make sure it is ok for you to be running. Everyone's case is different.

There are websites and lots of information out on the web about running with asthma.

A couple links:
http://www.geekfitness.net/running-with-asthma/

This is a good site about running that also has articles about running with asthma.
http://www.runnersworld.com/

That said, my daughter also has asthma, and runs. You have to start slow and easy...and build up over a long time. I run with her and it took her 2x as long to build up the lung capacity as I did (I was out out shape when I started with her). She can now pass the run for her age and up to Wright Brothers. We are still working on the Mitchell time, and I estimate its going to take every bit of a year to get her there.

If you are going to run with Asthma, always have your inhaler with you, and run with a buddy who can call for help if you have a problem.

lordmonar · October 15, 2015, 09:29:52 PM

Also....it is not wimping out to know that you have a legitimate limitation.

While PT Is important we should not holding you up for a disability nor should we be putting you a physical risk just to get a promotion.

So....as already stated. Talk to your doctor first about what you should be doing and get your Category III paperwork if necessary.

TheGooseLover · October 15, 2015, 09:31:49 PM

Thank you all! I will talk to my dr!

almostspaatz · October 16, 2015, 02:47:17 AM

Sorry gotta be that guy:

PT=physical training
PFT=Physical fitness test

pet peeve of mine

Echoing previous posts: Definitely check with the doctor! Don't be a tough guy and get hurt...

Good luck on the mile and congrats on Wright Bros!

Full time cadet · October 16, 2015, 03:59:51 AM

Work on your running, that's what I did. I brushed up on my mile run the whole week before the day I test for cpft.

Requirement was a 7:35. The week before I ran I got a 8:40. I ran a 7:16 that day.

Try not to waive yourself from cpft. Don't be that dude that just sits around while everyone is pting and scream at people (only from what I experience).

Hard work and dedication is all that it needs.

You can read one of my posts about my mile runs.

abdsp51 · October 16, 2015, 07:11:00 AM

Quote from: Full time cadet on October 16, 2015, 03:59:51 AM
Work on your running, that's what I did. I brushed up on my mile run the whole week before the day I test for cpft.

Requirement was a 7:35. The week before I ran I got a 8:40. I ran a 7:16 that day.

Try not to waive yourself from cpft. Don't be that dude that just sits around while everyone is pting and scream at people (only from what I experience).

Hard work and dedication is all that it needs.

You can read one of my posts about my mile runs.

Not your place the OP mentioned he has a legit breathing condition and the only folks who can tell him/her to run or not is parents and physician. Do you know how to recognize/treat an Asthma attack if one were to happen in front of you?

Glenn Quagmire · October 16, 2015, 08:34:36 AM

Do you know CPR? I do! AAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL RIGHT!

PA Guy · October 16, 2015, 10:06:03 AM

Quote from: Glenn Quagmire on October 16, 2015, 08:34:36 AM
Do you know CPR? I do! AAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL RIGHT!

You might consider calming down.

TheSkyHornet · October 16, 2015, 08:20:53 PM

As said before, medical limitations are not "wimping out."

You definitely need to discuss this with a medical professional before taking action upon yourself to run for the sake of being the All-American Athlete. I know of several cadets whom I have met that have physical limitations during PT, and most of them like to try to max out anyway and then realize somewhere during PT that it was a really bad idea. It's a whole different world saying "I'm going to try" and facing the consequences if you know you have limitations.

There are PT waivers for things like this. Yes, you can run with asthma, but you need to exercise extreme caution, and this also needs to be discussed with your CDC and Safety Officer before even being attempted.

Quote from: Full time cadet on October 16, 2015, 03:59:51 AM
Work on your running, that's what I did. I brushed up on my mile run the whole week before the day I test for cpft.

Requirement was a 7:35. The week before I ran I got a 8:40. I ran a 7:16 that day.

Try not to waive yourself from cpft. Don't be that dude that just sits around while everyone is pting and scream at people (only from what I experience).

Hard work and dedication is all that it needs.

You can read one of my posts about my mile runs.

You are not an expert on medical conditioning for physical activity nor cardio/pulmonary functions.

If somebody who has a waiver for PT is sitting on the sidelines screaming, that is a fault of the cadet in charge not getting a grasp on that situation and should be addressed. But someone sitting out from PT because they have a medical concern is not something to joke around with.

I've already witnessed a cadet have an asthma attack during a CPFT because he didn't have his inhaler with him and didn't tell anybody he left it at home that day before starting PT. It was a pretty nasty thing to witness and you could almost feel his attack by the expressions on his face and the sounds he was making. It's not a matter of "giving it your best and doing it anyway." Yes, you can condition yourself to run with certain medical issues, such as asthma, but it should be done under the supervision and/or consult of a medical expert and physical trainer, not a bunch of people, especially kids, on a forum coaching you on.

Майор Хаткевич · October 16, 2015, 09:20:38 PM

This is why cadets need SM supervision. For all talk of how "mature" some cadets think they are...basic things like this prove otherwise.

I'd rather waive a cadets PT based on a doctors recommendation than have a cadet get injured or worse because someone though they are "woosing out".

TheGooseLover · October 16, 2015, 10:47:33 PM

Thank you all for such awesome and quick responses, I'm going to ask my DCC this Tuesday if I could set the PT out due to asthma, I'm sure he'll say yes. I'll talk to my DR about getting a waiver soon as possible! Thanks all!
C/SrA Hodge

PHall · October 17, 2015, 02:21:06 AM

Quote from: Glenn Quagmire on October 16, 2015, 08:34:36 AM
Do you know CPR? I do! AAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL RIGHT!

Not bad, lasted just 2 hours, 28 minutes and 11 seconds before getting the boot. That's almost record time...

Full time cadet · October 17, 2015, 05:37:03 PM

I apologize if I am giving the wrong advice.

I was just giving my advice from what I experienced. Correct me if I am wrong .

TheSkyHornet · October 17, 2015, 11:30:33 PM

Quote from: Full time cadet on October 17, 2015, 05:37:03 PM
I apologize if I am giving the wrong advice.

I was just giving my advice from what I experienced. Correct me if I am wrong .

Yo have been corrected. The advice you received was inappropriate if these were similar circumstances.

For the record, senior members and CAP are legally responsible for cadet physical activities, as you are minors.

TheGooseLover · October 18, 2015, 06:50:26 AM

Thanks, and full time cadet, I do thank you for the time you took to write your answer and post it, although maybe not the best one, I appreciate all of y'all for doing this. Thanks

Flying Pig · October 18, 2015, 11:50:13 AM

Quote from: Full time cadet on October 16, 2015, 03:59:51 AM
Work on your running, that's what I did. I brushed up on my mile run the whole week before the day I test for cpft.

Requirement was a 7:35. The week before I ran I got a 8:40. I ran a 7:16 that day.

Try not to waive yourself from cpft. Don't be that dude that just sits around while everyone is pting and scream at people (only from what I experience).

Hard work and dedication is all that it needs.

You can read one of my posts about my mile runs.

Asthma, ice it and walk it off. Right? This is a youth program designed to mentor americas youth to be better leaders, not leave them with lasting injuries to remember CAP by. There will be no wars won or lost based on CPFT scores.