Wear of ONLY military ribbon

[vento]

It is mandatory to wear ribbons with the class A uniform. Question is: Can a member chose to wear only his military awards and none of the CAP ribbons? Just curious.

[Eclipse]

Yes. Seen it done all the time, generally by people too lazy or cheap to buy ribbons
that are relevent to CAP.

Edit: New 39-1 makes CAP ribbons mandatory, see below.

[vento]

Yes. Seen it done all the time, generally by people too lazy or cheap to buy ribbons
that are relevent to CAP.

That is very sad.

[Eclipse]

A little odd, sometimes, too. 

One gent I know has been wearing his retired USAF rack for years with no CAP decs.
It's confirmed he was in, and made some pretty good grade as well (other members in CAP worked with
him or knew of him).

The odd thing is that for the 10+ years I've known him, he's been wearing a full shirt of USAF decs...
on Army racks, so the spacing is off.  It looks like the Walmart shelves the day after Black Friday.

[DoubleSecret]

It is mandatory to wear ribbons with the class A uniform. Question is: Can a member chose to wear only his military awards and none of the CAP ribbons? Just curious.

11.1. Wear Instructions.

11.1.1. Wear only regular size ribbons and miniature size medals.

11.1.1.1. Ribbons and devices are mandatory with the USAF-style Service Dress (Class A) and USAF-style Semiformal uniforms, and optional with the USAF-style Blue Service Uniform (Class B) and Corporate-style Aviator Shirt Uniforms. When ribbons and devices are worn, all authorized ribbons will be worn on USAF-style uniforms, except:
11.1.1.1.1. Officers and NCOs. On the USAF-style uniforms, all ribbons, badges, and devices worn by adult members must fall below the top notch of the collar on the service coat or the bottom tip of the collar of shirts/blouses when those are worn without a service coat. Individuals may choose which ribbons to eliminate to meet this requirement, but are encouraged to initially remove CAP professional development ribbons to reach the required height. (Note, CAP aviation and chaplain badges remain mandatory for wear on USAF-style uniforms and ribbons may need to be removed to meet this requirement.)

[vento]

It is mandatory to wear ribbons with the class A uniform. Question is: Can a member chose to wear only his military awards and none of the CAP ribbons? Just curious.

11.1. Wear Instructions.

11.1.1. Wear only regular size ribbons and miniature size medals.

11.1.1.1. Ribbons and devices are mandatory with the USAF-style Service Dress (Class A) and USAF-style Semiformal uniforms, and optional with the USAF-style Blue Service Uniform (Class B) and Corporate-style Aviator Shirt Uniforms. When ribbons and devices are worn, all authorized ribbons will be worn on USAF-style uniforms, except:
11.1.1.1.1. Officers and NCOs. On the USAF-style uniforms, all ribbons, badges, and devices worn by adult members must fall below the top notch of the collar on the service coat or the bottom tip of the collar of shirts/blouses when those are worn without a service coat. Individuals may choose which ribbons to eliminate to meet this requirement, but are encouraged to initially remove CAP professional development ribbons to reach the required height. (Note, CAP aviation and chaplain badges remain mandatory for wear on USAF-style uniforms and ribbons may need to be removed to meet this requirement.)

Thanks, but that was not the question...  :angel:
In our regulation, it doesn't say anywhere if a member can wear ONLY military ribbon and NONE of the CAP ribbons. The regulation only stipulates about removal (reduction in size) of CAP ribbons to make it fit in the space.
One would think that CAP ribbon within CAP should have some meaning in our organization. Oh well.

[RiverAux]

Sure it does -- says ribbons are mandatory and all authorized will be worn...

[Brad]

Yep, all or none unless too tall. I see they got rid of our broader "all-some-or none" on Class Bs.

[Eclipse]

Sure it does -- says ribbons are mandatory and all authorized will be worn...

Interesting - something new.

I suppose we will have members with military decs thinking that the above means
"trim your CAP ribbons before trimming your military ones", when in fact the only thing mandatory
are the CAP ones, so the military ones should get trimmed first, though it doesn't say that.

A little redundancy sprinkled into the last paragraph, too.

Too bad these things aren't posted for review before being published.

[vento]

The curiosity arose when I was browsing the different Region websites and saw a Region CC (well decorated in the RM) wearing only military ribbons and military aviator wings. I would think the colonel should have quite a few CAP ribbons and decorations but he chose not to wear them.

http://swr.cap.gov/

[Eclipse]

To be fair, that's presumably a 2011 photo, and in the decade up to this last June,
"some or all" was allowed, so technically mil-only was OK.

With that said, if anyone should be wearing their CAP decs, it's eagles.

[RiverAux]

Yep, all or none unless too tall.

Well, depends on the uniform. NONE isn't an option on USAF-style Service Dress (Class A) and USAF-style Semiformal uniforms.  If you wear those uniforms, you will wear all your ribbons (unless you run out of space).

They did set up unnecessary confusion though since on corporate uniforms it appears that you have the option not only whether or not to wear ribbons, but the option on whether or not to wear some or all of the ribbons.  At least they could have required that all CAP ribbons be worn on corporate style.

[Storm Chaser]

Regulations aside, I feel that CAP ribbons and badges should take precedence over military awards on the CAP uniform. I'm not opposed to wearing military badges and ribbons on the CAP uniform (and have worn them in the past), but now that I have too many to wear them all, I prefer to wear CAP awards over military ones, as I feel they're more relevant to the organization and its mission. I'm sure many here will disagree.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I knew a Lieutenant Colonel (long since passed on) who only wore his World War II Victory Medal ribbon on his CAP uniform.  Nothing else.

[Tim Medeiros]

The curiosity arose when I was browsing the different Region websites and saw a Region CC (well decorated in the RM) wearing only military ribbons and military aviator wings. I would think the colonel should have quite a few CAP ribbons and decorations but he chose not to wear them.

http://swr.cap.gov/

Just a note, that site will be going away shortly (as soon as things get actioned).

[JeffDG]

The curiosity arose when I was browsing the different Region websites and saw a Region CC (well decorated in the RM) wearing only military ribbons and military aviator wings. I would think the colonel should have quite a few CAP ribbons and decorations but he chose not to wear them.

http://swr.cap.gov/

Just a note, that site will be going away shortly (as soon as things get actioned).

I noted the "last updated" on the page and was hoping that was the case!

[vento]

You mean the last remaining website made with Microsoft FrontPage is going away? Oh my...

[JeffDG]

You mean the last remaining website made with Microsoft FrontPage is going away? Oh my...

Who has a bugle and can play "Last Post"?

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Away with ye...I still use Microsoft Office 97 and Windows XP!

[Storm Chaser]

Away with ye...I still use Microsoft Office 97 and Windows XP!

And you're proud of that!