33 years ago Civil Air Patrol cadets around the world instantly wanted to become fighter pilots as Lt Pete "Maverick" Mitchell introduced them to the F-14 Tomcat.
This time next year, will cadets of 2020 be as excited as the cadets of 1986?
The countdown begins...
Trailer looked interesting. Hope the movie can deliver.
Summer of '86... still a cadet... first date to take a girl (now my wife of 28 years) to see Top Gun... ended up as the lead F-14 cockpit engineer for NAVAIR, working with the boys at Miramar (and now, in north Nevada). I ended up working with Yak and a couple other guys who advised on The Movie and still run into former CAP cadets my age who entered the service partly because of that film. Small world.
Hope they don't mess it up, like so many sequels/remakes these days.
As to whether the cadets of today will be excited, who knows? Part of the allure was killin' Commies, and today we're electing them to office. Part of the allure was sexy jets, and today we're saddled with the F-35 (yeah, I take shots at it, after two tours at the JSF program office... word is that Maverick and the team will focus on the Rhino and Growler team, which is probably smart). Part of the allure was the attraction, and we seem to be doing our very best to neuter that, today, in our perpetually offended and sensitive world. So, I will wait and see with moderate expectations.
R/s
Spam
Quote from: Spam on July 19, 2019, 03:47:34 AM
Summer of '86... still a cadet... first date to take a girl (now my wife of 28 years) to see Top Gun... ended up as the lead F-14 cockpit engineer for NAVAIR, working with the boys at Miramar (and now, in north Nevada). I ended up working with Yak and a couple other guys who advised on The Movie and still run into former CAP cadets my age who entered the service partly because of that film. Small world.
Hope they don't mess it up, like so many sequels/remakes these days.
As to whether the cadets of today will be excited, who knows? Part of the allure was killin' Commies, and today we're electing them to office. Part of the allure was sexy jets, and today we're saddled with the F-35 (yeah, I take shots at it, after two tours at the JSF program office... word is that Maverick and the team will focus on the Rhino and Growler team, which is probably smart). Part of the allure was the attraction, and we seem to be doing our very best to neuter that, today, in our perpetually offended and sensitive world. So, I will wait and see with moderate expectations.
R/s
Spam
What "Commies" have we elected?
Quote from: PHall on July 19, 2019, 12:53:04 AM
Trailer looked interesting. Hope the movie can deliver.
Agreed. Hope it can deliver.
Quote from: Fester on July 19, 2019, 04:10:17 AM
What "Commies" have we elected?
In the interest of not violating site policy, I'll refrain from naming.
It will be interesting to see who would be worthy of a film AIM-120, though, when we don't want to offend anyone these days (grin). The film version of Sum of All Fears swapped white neo Nazis for the PLO terrorists of the book. Even the remake of Red Dawn used...
North Korea???? Wha? to avoid offending our most favored nation partners.
I'll go see it, though. I watched the original, un-edited-for TBS version a couple of months ago, in all its gloriously un-PC 1980s splendor.
Danger Zone!
- Spam
Quote from: Spam on July 19, 2019, 04:47:45 AM
Quote from: Fester on July 19, 2019, 04:10:17 AM
What "Commies" have we elected?
In the interest of not violating site policy, I'll refrain from naming.
It will be interesting to see who would be worthy of a film AIM-120, though, when we don't want to offend anyone these days (grin). The film version of Sum of All Fears swapped white neo Nazis for the PLO terrorists of the book. Even the remake of Red Dawn used... North Korea???? Wha? to avoid offending our most favored nation partners.
I'll go see it, though. I watched the original, un-edited-for TBS version a couple of months ago, in all its gloriously un-PC 1980s splendor.
Danger Zone!
- Spam
You say "PC." I say, I was raised to know and use the Golden Rule. Some like to go out of their way to offend, others go out of their way to treat others with respect.
Oh, well.
So, then...
"HOV/eco car Lane to the... Safe Space Zoooonnnneeee...."
::)
PS, that's a JOKE. Not an assault.
Cheers
Spam
Quote from: Spam on July 19, 2019, 05:22:06 AM
PS, that's a JOKE. Not an assault.
Cheers
Spam
I think the only time I would qualify to drive in the HOV is if I were driving a hearse. :P
A bit of trivia.....
What song was the most played song of the 20th century? Hint: It's on the soundtrack of the original film.
In an interview, Tom Cruise referred to the new movie as a "love letter to aviation", and wanted people to have a visceral reaction watching it. That alone makes me want to see it.
The trailer doesn't give you much of what the movie is about, but those flying scenes do look wicked cool.
I'm calling it now: that's Iceman's casket.
Well,
I'm not seeing an analog TOT indicator in the Rhino Natops... And yeah we've had a couple of guys splash three in the past 30 years.
Picky? I'll disregard a lot if they have Tomcats as hinted. Yet... That would mean Mav is engaging the IRIAF!
;)
I hope the film is much better than his attitude while filming it. I have a good friend (and former CAP cadet BTW) who flies Hornets and was on the Teddy when they were filming. When fighter pilots are offended by your arrogance, you have a problem!
We all know he's nuts... S'okay.
It does all have me wondering though... Who will star in the remake of "The Final Countdown"?
You know, where an LHA gets sucked through a time vortex to 1991, and the F-35s make us lose the Gulf War?
Cheers
Spam
Quote from: Spam on July 19, 2019, 12:20:27 PM
We all know he's nuts... S'okay.
It does all have me wondering though... Who will star in the remake of "The Final Countdown"?
You know, where an LHA gets sucked through a time vortex to 1991, and the F-35s make us lose the Gulf War?
Cheers
Spam
You, sir, have won the day...hilarious....
Not wearing gloves? No wonder he's still a Captain. :P
Quote from: Spam on July 19, 2019, 04:47:45 AM
Quote from: Fester on July 19, 2019, 04:10:17 AM
What "Commies" have we elected?
In the interest of not violating site policy, I'll refrain from naming.
It will be interesting to see who would be worthy of a film AIM-120, though, when we don't want to offend anyone these days (grin). The film version of Sum of All Fears swapped white neo Nazis for the PLO terrorists of the book. Even the remake of Red Dawn used... North Korea???? Wha? to avoid offending our most favored nation partners.
I'll go see it, though. I watched the original, un-edited-for TBS version a couple of months ago, in all its gloriously un-PC 1980s splendor.
Danger Zone!
- Spam
Dude, you're the one who brought it up. You of all people should know better.
QuoteIt does all have me wondering though... Who will star in the remake of "The Final Countdown"?
That's a great movie!
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+final+countdown+movie+trailer&qpvt=the+final+countdown+movie+trailer&view=detail&mid=2D6BBFE9072920D417342D6BBFE9072920D41734&&FORM=VRDGAR (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+final+countdown+movie+trailer&qpvt=the+final+countdown+movie+trailer&view=detail&mid=2D6BBFE9072920D417342D6BBFE9072920D41734&&FORM=VRDGAR)
Quote from: Fester on July 19, 2019, 05:59:50 AM
A bit of trivia.....
What song was the most played song of the 20th century? Hint: It's on the soundtrack of the original film.
Take My Breath Away?
QuoteIn the interest of not violating site policy, I'll refrain from naming.
Giggle. Snicker, snicker. ;D
Quote from: shuman14 on July 19, 2019, 03:57:32 PM
Quote from: Fester on July 19, 2019, 05:59:50 AM
A bit of trivia.....
What song was the most played song of the 20th century? Hint: It's on the soundtrack of the original film.
Take My Breath Away?
"You've Lost That Loving Feeling"
Played on American radio and TV more than 8 million times.
Found another couple of things, added to the screwy Rhino cockpit, the incorrect reference to guys with triple kills, and the lack of flight gloves.
4. Check out his cruise patches on the back of his jacket when he puts it on. They've altered the WESTPAC cruise patches to remove the Taiwanese and Japanese flags. (Talk about not wanting to offend our debt masters from Communist China).
5. Why in the world would Fallon stage the ramp as shown, with the jets nearly nose to nose? Its not an Elephant Walk, and there's no room to taxi out.
6. I'd noticed this a few months ago when they came out with the poster, but now I see its in the film; Maverick has on a nonstandard helmet, the old HGU-34/P flight helmet with MBU-14/P oxygen mask. Today's Rhino drivers would wear the correct HGU-68/P flight helmet with MBU-23/P oxygen mask, and a JHMCS (Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System) kit.
Note: the 68/P is a good helmet - far better than the 34 and even better than some later helmets. We tested it against the Alpha HGU-86/P helmet and determined to shelve the design and go with the 68 instead. If Mav is flying with an outdated helmet, he won't be able to employ the HOBS (high off boresight) targeting functionality of his air to air weapons properly, nor will he be able to build threat SA using the provided JHMCS cues. No patch wearing FWS instructor would violate TTPs so blatantly in an instructor role.
I'm trying to hold on to the suspension of disbelief!!!
Danger Zone!
- Spam
This film is supposed to be FICTION and COMEDY, not actual. For a correct helmet match to the airplane, make a documentary.
Yeah. Luis, part of the fun here (for many of us in aviation) is to count the number of hilarious Hollywood goofs and things they took extreme license to. I worked with a guy (call sign Yak) who was an advisor on the first film; everyone ribbed him about briefings in hangars with cowboy hats, "trophies and plaques" at Top Gun, dumping fuel at the perch before BFM, all that sort of stuff (he took the good natured ribbing well, because we all LOVE The Movie).
So, I'm not saying anything about the F-22 Raptor test pilot plaque at 1:16 that Maverick uses as a sunglasses holder. I worked with two Naval Aviators on that program (exchange guys). What I would call BS on is that the plaque lists him as an O-6 at the time of assignment! (so that's my number what, seven)?
Then, there's that pressure helmet in the clip... U-2 pilots still wear full suits, not the same ensemble as Raptor guys at 60K, but full suits. What IS a thing to have fun with, is that there's absolutely no need for integral helmet facial lighting (as shown!) to make Tom Cruise look so good for the tight shots! (Its the same thing as in The Abyss, or other films... good fun though). Is that number 8?
LOL
I'm just having fun with it; we could actually turn this into an AE discussion, of sorts (i.e. "what actual, real mishaps were used to create the asymmetric thrust flat spins as shown in the 86 film", and "how was Gooses fatal mishap representative of an actual aft cockpit mishap, with his seat full up and his head higher than the canopy breaker points on the GRU-7 seat"). Many of the things that get into films like this are actually good bases for interesting classes. When the (horribly bad) movie "Stealth" came out, I used a clip to intro an AE night class on weapons delivery; I pointed out that with current gen standoff weapons with configurable impact profiles, it is absolutely insane to do a slow climb straight up and push over to manually drop a gravity bomb straight down an elevator shaft, in the middle of a presumed threat envelope. Our cadets really got into the discussion of how actual JDAMs, JSOWs, and weapon data links work, and that's great stuff.
So... we can have fun, make a little fun of it, and use it constructively to inspire. At least, that's my intent.
Cheers (TL/DR?)
Spam
EDIT: USN/USMC Raptor drivers were not necessarily TPS grads.
There are those of us who have had more direct contact with the subject matter who ask - "What's so hard about using more realistic and correct pilot gear when shooting these movies?"
Seeing all this crap detracts from what might otherwise be a good flick.
I would have no problem with seeing original stuff, or as near as original as they could get in films that purport to be serious about the event. But in one that does not even try to be serious, that is more comedy than reality, I do not care.
For instance, in A Bridge Too Far, I really would not have accepted a Bazooka for a PIAT, in the scene where the British fire the PIAT into the German tank.
That is why when in The Longest Day they show the Germans firing the M45 4 caliber 50 gun mount instead of the 20 mm Flakvierling, it kinda sets me off.
On the other hand, in 1941 I would have accepted a 105 mm Howitzer for the 40 mm.
As I said, I do not consider Top Gun a serious film.
Those are good points, Luis. I hear what you're saying there.
You never know, they might work to fix some of the most glaring gaffes in post production. They've got half a year to the release date.
V/r
Spam
I was expecting Cruise to be sitting at the local Legion hall, talking bout the good old days and telling sea stories.
Quote from: MSG Mac on July 21, 2019, 03:34:47 AM
I was expecting Cruise to be sitting at the local Legion hall, talking bout the good old days and telling sea stories.
You're using logic.... ::)
Who is the female lead in this one? After working with Cruise in the first film, his female lead came out of the closet. What will happen to this new one. LOL
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on July 21, 2019, 12:51:11 AM
As I said, I do not consider Top Gun a serious film.
Hence it's not being called a documentary. Not for detailed study. Its just a fun film for entertainment. Like Star Wars.
(May be a bad analogy. I know too many folks that take Star Wars ... and Star Trek ... WAY too seriously. LOL )
Quote from: etodd on July 21, 2019, 04:35:01 AM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on July 21, 2019, 12:51:11 AM
As I said, I do not consider Top Gun a serious film.
Hence it's not being called a documentary. Not for detailed study. Its just a fun film for entertainment. Like Star Wars.
(May be a bad analogy. I know too many folks that take Star Wars ... and Star Trek ... WAY too seriously. LOL )
Ah. The Historical Documents! Yes, all very true.
Gilligan's Island (those poor people).
(https://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/styles/main_wide/public/2017/08/galaxy-quest-poster.jpg?itok=acSdaKfv)
Why, all those Historical Documents must be equally valid... just look at the CAP member in the highly similar one, below! (Sorry/not sorry, Eric):
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/STS-126_Mission_Poster.jpg)
There's a long history of SF inspiring Cadets (like me) to go into engineering, and the resulting engineering to then inspire SF. It is not necessarily an unhealthy thing, as long as one can channel it into hitting the books hard and staying in school, rather than degenerating into a couch sitting nebbish who never grows and still lives at home. My home Squadron swapped meeting nights to WED back in 1967, because the cadet staff all wanted to watch Star Trek on THU nights...
So, in terms of using Top Gun, science fiction, or whatever as inspiration, I say bravo (as long as the escapist fun doesn't become an end unto itself).
See:
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/50-years-of-nasa-and-star-trek-connections (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/50-years-of-nasa-and-star-trek-connections)
Quote from: MSG Mac on July 21, 2019, 03:34:47 AM
I was expecting Cruise to be sitting at the local Legion hall, talking bout the good old days and telling sea stories.
Some alternate universe Maverick outcomes, after the 1986 movie:
2. Implicated in Tailhook '91 and is cashiered, having been caught on film getting handsy with Paula Coughlin at the Vegas Hilton. (To be fair, in 97 percent of alternate timelines he falls victim to his own bad behavior and never even makes it to the #metoo era).
3. Always moody, Maverick spirals into a depressive state after the mid 2000s retirement of the F-14, goes AWOL, and is last seen in a back booth at McGuire's at Pcola, mumbling off-key Righteous Brothers lyrics into his drink.
4. After his nineteenth TRICARE referral without an actual exam, Maverick succumbs to an easily treatable social disease in 1989, still clutching his stack of TRICARE paperwork in the waiting room. His body isn't noticed by staff until sweepers is finally called on the afternoon of the fourth day.
5. Having finally made one too many high speed low level passes over ATC towers (and Admirals daughters) Maverick is finally reassigned as an MWR (Morale Welfare and Recreation) officer at NAS Keflavik, delivering high-quality, customer-focused programs and services that contribute to resiliency, retention, readiness, and quality of life. While he initially makes the best of it, hoping to access young ladies via the provision of Fleet & Family Readiness (FFR) Training and Learning Events for all FFR employees, regardless of Non-Appropriated (NAF) or Appropriated Fund (APF)/GS status, rank or grade, he ultimately realizes that Iceland isn't a growth opportunity. In 2019 he is still there (still as an O-3), having remained as the sole base caretaker after the 2006 base shutdown. He looks an awful lot like Fat Thor now.
6. Maverick, having done a tour at N88 as the fighter requirements officer, manages to meet his only stated goal: to push through a validated requirement for a Pepsi bottle dispenser added to the F-35 cockpit. He is given a glowing FITREP, is promoted CAPT and finally RADM, and is placed in command of the JSF Program Office. He retires with honor and secures a massively rewarding job with Lockheed. In the spring of 2020, his name is put before the Senate as yet another replacement Secretary of Defense.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hUvoiYiCLw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hUvoiYiCLw)
7. Beset by a late 90s RIF, Maverick (who is then watching his marriage to Charlie go down the tubes due to his absence on back to back deployments and her ascending career at NAVAIR) separates from the Navy. Due to the multiple flight violations on his record, he can only accept a job flying loads of rubber dog [poop] out of Hong Kong. In 2001, while flying northeast of Hanoi, he witnesses the harassment of a Navy EP-3 by a Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) J-8II interceptor. Maverick, in the gutsiest move ever seen, jettisons his cargo into the Jian-8's intakes, driving him off and saving the day for the Navy aircraft. He is awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom and has a hall named after him in Annapolis.
8. Class of 1981 Reunion notes: "Pete Mitchell, Class of '81, is a civilian instructor at the Naval Post Graduate School, Monterey. He is happily married to Tom Kazansky, Class of '80. They live in Big Sur and have two dogs".
V/r
Spam
"TAILHOOK '91... I WASNT THERE MAN"
Quote from: Spam on July 21, 2019, 07:18:57 AM
Quote from: MSG Mac on July 21, 2019, 03:34:47 AM
I was expecting Cruise to be sitting at the local Legion hall, talking bout the good old days and telling sea stories.
Some alternate universe Maverick outcomes, after the 1986 movie:
2. Implicated in Tailhook '91 and is cashiered, having been caught on film getting handsy with Paula Coughlin at the Vegas Hilton. (To be fair, in 97 percent of alternate timelines he falls victim to his own bad behavior and never even makes it to the #metoo era).
3. Always moody, Maverick spirals into a depressive state after the mid 2000s retirement of the F-14, goes AWOL, and is last seen in a back booth at McGuire's at Pcola, mumbling off-key Righteous Brothers lyrics into his drink.
4. After his nineteenth TRICARE referral without an actual exam, Maverick succumbs to an easily treatable social disease in 1989, still clutching his stack of TRICARE paperwork in the waiting room. His body isn't noticed by staff until sweepers is finally called on the afternoon of the fourth day.
5. Having finally made one too many high speed low level passes over ATC towers (and Admirals daughters) Maverick is finally reassigned as an MWR (Morale Welfare and Recreation) officer at NAS Keflavik, delivering high-quality, customer-focused programs and services that contribute to resiliency, retention, readiness, and quality of life. While he initially makes the best of it, hoping to access young ladies via the provision of Fleet & Family Readiness (FFR) Training and Learning Events for all FFR employees, regardless of Non-Appropriated (NAF) or Appropriated Fund (APF)/GS status, rank or grade, he ultimately realizes that Iceland isn't a growth opportunity. In 2019 he is still there (still as an O-3), having remained as the sole base caretaker after the 2006 base shutdown. He looks an awful lot like Fat Thor now.
6. Maverick, having done a tour at N88 as the fighter requirements officer, manages to meet his only stated goal: to push through a validated requirement for a Pepsi bottle dispenser added to the F-35 cockpit. He is given a glowing FITREP, is promoted CAPT and finally RADM, and is placed in command of the JSF Program Office. He retires with honor and secures a massively rewarding job with Lockheed. In the spring of 2020, his name is put before the Senate as yet another replacement Secretary of Defense.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hUvoiYiCLw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hUvoiYiCLw)
7. Beset by a late 90s RIF, Maverick (who is then watching his marriage to Charlie go down the tubes due to his absence on back to back deployments and her ascending career at NAVAIR) separates from the Navy. Due to the multiple flight violations on his record, he can only accept a job flying loads of rubber dog [poop] out of Hong Kong. In 2001, while flying northeast of Hanoi, he witnesses the harassment of a Navy EP-3 by a Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) J-8II interceptor. Maverick, in the gutsiest move ever seen, jettisons his cargo into the Jian-8's intakes, driving him off and saving the day for the Navy aircraft. He is awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom and has a hall named after him in Annapolis.
8. Class of 1981 Reunion notes: "Pete Mitchell, Class of '81, is a civilian instructor at the Naval Post Graduate School, Monterey. He is happily married to Tom Kazansky, Class of '80. They live in Big Sur and have two dogs".
V/r
Spam
"TAILHOOK '91... I WASNT THERE MAN"
I'm disappointed. Not one of those stories included a reference to him being "#1 in his class at Civil Air Patrol."
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Another one that states "its for entertainment, not a documentary." So again, why the insistence on exact, correct helmets?
Are you gonna look at the bullets or missiles fired and say "they are not real bullets or missiles, its Hollywood magic."
'Top Gun' sequel, co-produced by China's Tencent, appears to remove Japanese, Taiwanese flags
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/07/20/asia-pacific/top-gun-sequel-appears-remove-japanese-taiwanese-flags/#.XTR0vuhKiUl
Quote from: OldGuy on July 21, 2019, 02:22:20 PM
'Top Gun' sequel, co-produced by China's Tencent, appears to remove Japanese, Taiwanese flags
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/07/20/asia-pacific/top-gun-sequel-appears-remove-japanese-taiwanese-flags/#.XTR0vuhKiUl
How is this a surprise? The guys providing the money have ALWAYS called the shots in the movie industry. Nothing new here.
Quote from: PHall on July 21, 2019, 07:29:09 PM
Quote from: OldGuy on July 21, 2019, 02:22:20 PM
'Top Gun' sequel, co-produced by China's Tencent, appears to remove Japanese, Taiwanese flags
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/07/20/asia-pacific/top-gun-sequel-appears-remove-japanese-taiwanese-flags/#.XTR0vuhKiUl
How is this a surprise? The guys providing the money have ALWAYS called the shots in the movie industry. Nothing new here.
Of course. Me, I probably will pass on this. Not interested in chicom propaganda.
Seen on Jalopnik:
Okay, Why is Maverick Still in the Navy?
Because shut up, Kyle.
What's Up With The Helmet?
What's up with not shutting up, Kyle?
Mysteries
The biggest mystery is Kyle not shutting up.
And What's That Tomcat Doing There?
NONE OF YOUR [stupid] BUSINESS, KYLE. DON'T RUIN THIS FOR me US.
/plays "Danger Zone" on repeat
I get the feeling some of you guys as little kids would analyze and criticize the weapons Wiley Coyote would use in trying to get the Roadrunner. As a kid, couldn't even just enjoy a cartoon. LOL
Quote from: etodd on July 21, 2019, 09:00:19 PM
I get the feeling some of you guys as little kids would analyze and criticize the weapons Wiley Coyote would use in trying to get the Roadrunner. As a kid, couldn't even just enjoy a cartoon. LOL
Well, if Wiley would quit using that Acme Industries junk... >:D
[BTW etodd, I've always rooted for Wile E Coyote!]
Really! Lowest bidder.
QuoteThat is why when in The Longest Day they show the Germans firing the M45 4 caliber 50 gun mount instead of the 20 mm Flakvierling, it kinda sets me off.
The Germans always made use of captured and obsolete weapons systems (mostly to arm auxiliary troops and satellite nations) and
lots of it made it's way into the Atlantic Wall defenses. One of the most common ones was using Renault FT turrets as pillboxes in the AW with both Puteaux 37mm guns and Hotchkiss 8mm machinegun versions being used.
So it's "possible" that a captured American gun carrier from North Africa was put to use on the AW. (Come on man, go with it. ;D )
Quote from: shuman14 on July 22, 2019, 04:18:35 PM
QuoteThat is why when in The Longest Day they show the Germans firing the M45 4 caliber 50 gun mount instead of the 20 mm Flakvierling, it kinda sets me off.
The Germans always made use of captured and obsolete weapons systems (mostly to arm auxiliary troops and satellite nations) and lots of it made it's way into the Atlantic Wall defenses. One of the most common ones was using Renault FT turrets as pillboxes in the AW with both Puteaux 37mm guns and Hotchkiss 8mm machinegun versions being used.
So it's "possible" that a captured American gun carrier from North Africa was put to use on the AW. (Come on man, go with it. ;D )
That's a pretty BIG stretch there boss. But thank you for playing! :clap:
The Germans had a big, big problem (read Allied navy and air force) resupplying Rommel, and then evacuating the Afrika Korps. Doubt very much anything captured in Africa ended in Normandy. Could have believed captured from Allie reused by Germany in Africa...
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on July 23, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
The Germans had a big, big problem (read Allied navy and air force) resupplying Rommel, and then evacuating the Afrika Korps. Doubt very much anything captured in Africa ended in Normandy. Could have believed captured from Allie reused by Germany in Africa...
So what you're saying is that there is a chance...
No, what I am saying, is theres no chance in h**l.
>:D
So who is already planning a field trip for the Cadets to see it? None of them will criticize it, they'll all soak it in and dream ....
And no, I don't mean an actual official field trip, lest this thread go way off track, with mentions of how one should properly plan it, execute it, and God forbid, what uniform should be worn. LOLOLOL
Quote from: etodd on July 23, 2019, 07:23:16 PM
So who is already planning a field trip for the Cadets to see it? None of them will criticize it, they'll all soak it in and dream ....
And no, I don't mean an actual official field trip, lest this thread go way off track, with mentions of how one should properly plan it, execute it, and God forbid, what uniform should be worn. LOLOLOL
The cadets will plan their own trips to see it, if they think it's worth watching. Which is fine with me.
I am not a big screen guy and am probably not going. That said, there is clearly a LOT of interest. Any chance of getting CAP PSAs into the theaters? How does that work? Who do we talk to (internally and externally)?
Quote from: OldGuy on July 23, 2019, 08:04:45 PM
I am not a big screen guy and am probably not going. That said, there is clearly a LOT of interest. Any chance of getting CAP PSAs into the theaters? How does that work? Who do we talk to (internally and externally)?
Did this with Scouts a few years back. We went through the local theater manager, had a bunch of poster that we put up around the building, on theater doors, etc., and had a table to hand out flyers.
"So who is already planning a field trip for the Cadets to see it?"
They'll have it on their phones and stream it even before it hits the theaters...
Quote from: OldGuy on July 23, 2019, 08:04:45 PM
I am not a big screen guy and am probably not going. That said, there is clearly a LOT of interest. Any chance of getting CAP PSAs into the theaters? How does that work? Who do we talk to (internally and externally)?
You are aware that Top Gun is about NAVY pilots?
Quote from: NIN on July 23, 2019, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: OldGuy on July 23, 2019, 08:04:45 PM
I am not a big screen guy and am probably not going. That said, there is clearly a LOT of interest. Any chance of getting CAP PSAs into the theaters? How does that work? Who do we talk to (internally and externally)?
You are aware that Top Gun is about NAVY pilots?
Yes. They fly, we fly.
Quote from: NIN on July 23, 2019, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: OldGuy on July 23, 2019, 08:04:45 PM
I am not a big screen guy and am probably not going. That said, there is clearly a LOT of interest. Any chance of getting CAP PSAs into the theaters? How does that work? Who do we talk to (internally and externally)?
You are aware that Top Gun is about NAVY pilots?
So? About half of the Cadets I knew once upon a time are wearing wings of gold today.
Quote from: THRAWN on July 23, 2019, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: NIN on July 23, 2019, 08:17:06 PM
Quote from: OldGuy on July 23, 2019, 08:04:45 PM
I am not a big screen guy and am probably not going. That said, there is clearly a LOT of interest. Any chance of getting CAP PSAs into the theaters? How does that work? Who do we talk to (internally and externally)?
You are aware that Top Gun is about NAVY pilots?
So? About half of the Cadets I knew once upon a time are wearing wings of gold today.
My wingmate from the 70s ended up as a USMC pilot with gold wings, inspired by the original as well as all we did in CAP. May he R.I.P. - he died over the South China Sea as a O-4 doing what he always wanted to do.
For the pendants: https://news.usni.org/2019/07/22/navy-answers-how-a-57-year-old-maverick-could-still-feel-the-need-for-speed
Quote from: NIN on July 23, 2019, 10:40:33 PM
For the pendants: https://news.usni.org/2019/07/22/navy-answers-how-a-57-year-old-maverick-could-still-feel-the-need-for-speed
Would that be for the cross-deck pendants?
(looook it up, cadets...)
Cheers
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