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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 02:49:58 AM

Title: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 02:49:58 AM
Is the brown cold weather polypro undershirt authorized or wear with the BDU in CAP? It's it a zipper from the collar to upper chest and when zipped it comes up to a mockneck.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: abdsp51 on February 04, 2013, 02:52:05 AM
Download CAPM39-1 and read it.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 02:53:31 AM
I did. It doesn't fall into the category of t-shirt, does it?
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: SarDragon on February 04, 2013, 02:55:59 AM
Guess not.  ::)
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: abdsp51 on February 04, 2013, 02:58:00 AM
*face palm*
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 03:00:41 AM
All right. Thanks.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: a2capt on February 04, 2013, 03:03:37 AM
Ya know, it's more and more obvious this kid is not a member.. ;-)

He'd be a handfull at even the most lax and dysfunctional unit.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: JayT on February 04, 2013, 03:31:41 AM
Quote from: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 02:49:58 AM
Is the brown cold weather polypro undershirt authorized or wear with the BDU in CAP? It's it a zipper from the collar to upper chest and when zipped it comes up to a mockneck.


Why do you care? It's not a uniform you should be wearing.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 03:34:14 AM
It's a uniform that I will soon be authorized to wear and I just got a bushel of polypro undershirts so I wanted to know if they will be useful.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: Eclipse on February 04, 2013, 03:38:53 AM
Quote from: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 02:49:58 AM
Is the brown cold weather polypro undershirt authorized or wear with the BDU in CAP?

No.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: abdsp51 on February 04, 2013, 03:44:47 AM
Quote from: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 03:34:14 AM
It's a uniform that I will soon be authorized to wear and I just got a bushel of polypro undershirts do I wanted to know if tells be useful.

You need to seriously check the attitude, or you will not last long as a cadet and especially if you plan on enlisting.  That will get you slapped with a slew of paperwork you would not want. 
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: Sapper168 on February 04, 2013, 03:44:57 AM
Quote from: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 02:53:31 AM
I did. It doesn't fall into the category of t-shirt, does it?

Pg 63 Table 2-3, Line 12.    Not sure how you missed it. ??? ::)
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 04:05:38 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on February 04, 2013, 03:44:47 AM
Quote from: Airman De Ruiter on February 04, 2013, 03:34:14 AM
It's a uniform that I will soon be authorized to wear and I just got a bushel of polypro undershirts do I wanted to know if tells be useful.

You need to seriously check the attitude, or you will not last long as a cadet and especially if you plan on enlisting.  That will get you slapped with a slew of paperwork you would not want.

What attitude? I simply replied to his question.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: abdsp51 on February 04, 2013, 04:27:55 AM
Seriously? You have ignored any and all sage advice from members here and have always tried to get the last word in.  You need to read the materials and if you have questions especially on uniform policies you need to take it up with you CoC once/if you are approved for membership.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: lordmonar on February 04, 2013, 10:09:13 AM
As in all things......first check with your chain of command.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: Storm Chaser on February 04, 2013, 05:27:46 PM
I have several types of brown sweaters and thermal undershirts that were issued by the Air Force back when BDUs were worn. Not all of these were spelled out in AFMAN 36-2903, Dress and Personal Appearance of Air Force Personnel, nevertheless they were issued and authorized for use in cold weather environments.

CAPM 39-1 doesn't seem to leave much room for interpretation.

Quote from: CAPM 39-1
(Undershirts) Brown or black. Either V-neck, U-neck, crew neck or athletic style without pockets. Black or brown turtlenecks, dickeys, or thermal undershirts without pockets may also be worn. EXCEPTION: members may wear white thermal undershirts even if exposed at neck. Unit commanders may prescribe color, unit designation, and cloth or silk screen emblem, to be worn on left side of chest not to exceed 5 inches in diameter.
Title: Re: Zippered Undershirt for BDU
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on February 04, 2013, 06:33:40 PM
Quote from: abdsp51 on February 04, 2013, 03:44:47 AM
You need to seriously check the attitude, or you will not last long as a cadet and especially if you plan on enlisting.  That will get you slapped with a slew of paperwork you would not want.

Not to mention a slew of other things this person doesn't want in BMT, like unwanted "special attention" from the MTI's.

Mr De Ruiter, first of all, you do not know that you will "soon be authorised" to wear ANY CAP uniform.  You will not know that until/if your membership is approved, which, to my judgement, may be questionable anyway because of your SSN status.

My recommendation?  Cool your jets.  You are getting way, way ahead of yourself and may be setting yourself up for one heck of a disappointment.

The general consensus WRT anything to do with the (deeply flawed and full of Texas-sized holes) 39-1 is that if it is not specifically authorised, you don't wear it.