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Title: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on October 28, 2010, 08:48:04 PM
I do apologise if I'm flogging a dead horse here...but have any of you found a good way to secure plastic-encased insignia to Velcro?

Of course, I've tried sewing, but without a needle the size of a fencing foil all I've got is a lot of wounds (Purple Heart, please  ;D) and some new ways to use the fouler side of the English language.
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: HGjunkie on October 28, 2010, 09:29:42 PM
Quote from: CyBorg on October 28, 2010, 08:48:04 PM
(Purple Heart, please  ;D)

And I present you with;

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:XmsZCbrTT_uzSM::www.threetwoone.org/uggabugga/2004/&t=1&usg=AFrqEzc9AMMjNOUw8c6La3K_6VMcoYxbyg)


(no offense intended to anyone who has been awarded the purple heart in the military)
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: The CyBorg is destroyed on October 28, 2010, 09:36:13 PM
^^Thank you. ;D

And I also intended no offence to those who have been awarded that decoration.
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: Eclipse on October 28, 2010, 11:06:21 PM
Buy self-adhesive velcro and glue it one.

With that said, plastic-encased that is velcro'ed on looks terrible. 
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on October 29, 2010, 03:51:41 AM
Just get some clear thread, it works great.
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: flyboy53 on October 29, 2010, 03:52:42 AM
Mine has velcro backing without being sewn. They actually came that way from the military supplier who will remain nameless here because I also get my leather name tags from the same source. I've never had a problem with it, otherwise, and during my era in the Air Force, that was how the plastic rank was worn anyway.

If the velcro wasn't pre-attached, it was sewn on velcro by someone at the parachute shop and the intent was to be able to shed anything from the flight suit that would hint at where you came from.

These days, however, I'm sure that someone with a relatively good sewing machine and some patience can do the same....recently my wife has used her machine to do her's. The alternative is maddening, painful and takes forever.

Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: Slim on October 29, 2010, 03:58:41 AM
I always used a machine to sew mine.  But, unless you have a heavy-duty sewing machine and/or needle, don't try to use the machine as normal.  I loaded everything up, then hand cranked the wheel slowly so that the needle would pierce the plastic cleanly.  Go to fast and the needle will flex and break.

Also, if you're going to do that, use a piece of velcro bigger than the insignia.  Since you can't pin it, odds are that the velcro will shift while sewing.  When you're done, trim the velcro down to match the edges of the insignia.

Once embroidered was authorized, I switched everything over as soon as I could get it from The Hock shop.
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: SarDragon on October 29, 2010, 04:16:43 AM
Keep a candle by the machine, and keep the needle waxed. It goes through the plastic more easily.
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: Eclipse on October 29, 2010, 04:17:58 AM
If you're going to sew it, don't use the self-adhesive to place it.  The glue will just gum up your needles.

Same goes for velcro for patches, etc.
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: peter rabbit on October 29, 2010, 02:38:39 PM
QuoteOnce embroidered was authorized, I switched everything over as soon as I could get it from The Hock shop.

I assume you're talking about the BDU, etc since flight suits still require plastic-encased.
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: jimmydeanno on October 29, 2010, 02:39:46 PM
Quote from: peter rabbit on October 29, 2010, 02:38:39 PM
QuoteOnce embroidered was authorized, I switched everything over as soon as I could get it from The Hock shop.

I assume you're talking about the BDU, etc since flight suits still require plastic-encased.

Not the blue flight suit.
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: peter rabbit on October 29, 2010, 02:44:38 PM
QuoteNot the blue flight suit.

right - I'm talking about the AF green version.
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: MICT1362 on October 29, 2010, 02:50:38 PM
I had no issues using my regular old sewing machine and needle on the new set that I just got.  My only advice is to go SLOW!  Because the plastic gets a little rough, the needle wants to drag.  If you go slow, and make sure that the two pieces feed through the machine, you should have no problems. And as stated before, use a piece of non-adhesive velcro that is larger that your insignia.

-Paramedic
Title: Re: Yet another question about plastic-encased insignia...
Post by: Slim on October 30, 2010, 06:33:20 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on October 29, 2010, 02:39:46 PM
Quote from: peter rabbit on October 29, 2010, 02:38:39 PM
QuoteOnce embroidered was authorized, I switched everything over as soon as I could get it from The Hock shop.

I assume you're talking about the BDU, etc since flight suits still require plastic-encased.

Not the blue flight suit.

Ding ding ding!