New SecAF a friend of CAP?

[THRAWN]

Sorry guys for trying to inject a little humor in these threads, and trying to bring responses to extend threads that I find inminently [sic] purposeful. I will keep my contributions as serious as I can make them.

It's appreciated. But jets? If anything, we'd be better off with rotary wing assets. It'd give NIN something else to do...

[Flying Pig]

Sorry guys for trying to inject a little humor in these threads, and trying to bring responses to extend threads that I find inminently [sic] purposeful. I will keep my contributions as serious as I can make them.

It's appreciated. But jets? If anything, we'd be better off with rotary wing assets. It'd give NIN something else to do...

and Id go 180 deg and say CAP would get in less trouble with jets!   

[Luis R. Ramos]

Is NIN a helicopter pilot...?

Heed Flying Pig! He knows helos!!!

[DakRadz]

OV-22 Osprey!
(I think I got the designator correct)

1st Lt Raduenz

[abdsp51]

OV-22 Osprey!
(I think I got the designator correct)

1st Lt Raduenz

AF model is CV-22 Osprey and the Marine variant is the MV-22 Osprey.

[RogueLeader]

Well, we did have a B-1 help df a signal here in Wyoming sometime ago.

[DakRadz]

Why thank you. Usually I look that up. I think I was thinking of an old fixed wing from Vietnam. OV... Bird dog maybe? Something like that.

1st Lt Raduenz

[abdsp51]

Already, we have chaplains supporting USAF missions. How about lawyers? Doctors? Accountants? Safety professionals? IT types? Lots of ways for us to play and support shortages in unit manpower, especially in AFR and ANG units. The SECAF could help with that...

Novel idea but there is more to it than that.  Alot of these professionals may not be willing to leave their primary jobs to back fill.  And doctors and lawyers in the DoD practice under the blanket license the DoD has.  The IT sector unless you are working at the NOS can't really do alot and their hands are tied alot. 

Plus who will fund these and most of those manpower slots are deployable assets as well.  Are CAP members willing to go out?

[THRAWN]

Already, we have chaplains supporting USAF missions. How about lawyers? Doctors? Accountants? Safety professionals? IT types? Lots of ways for us to play and support shortages in unit manpower, especially in AFR and ANG units. The SECAF could help with that...

Novel idea but there is more to it than that.  Alot of these professionals may not be willing to leave their primary jobs to back fill.  And doctors and lawyers in the DoD practice under the blanket license the DoD has.  The IT sector unless you are working at the NOS can't really do alot and their hands are tied alot. 

Plus who will fund these and most of those manpower slots are deployable assets as well.  Are CAP members willing to go out?

You'd be surprised at the response. Many Title 32 State Guards are already doing this for their DMAVA/MILDEP, without compensation. They cover the domestic roles during deployments and fill contingency roles. In addition to the ones that I named earlier, there are the CE roles that could be filled, force protection augmentees, ACR, PA...this organization has a wide variety of professionals that already give of their time and treasure. SECAF could tap into some of that.

[NIN]

It's appreciated. But jets? If anything, we'd be better off with rotary wing assets. It'd give NIN something else to do...

Pig can fly it, I'll fix it.

[NIN]

Yeah, bit I bet there's an extended sigh...

I gotta say, the current SecAF seems fully engaged with CAP-USAF and CAP, Inc. She is fully aware of who we are and certainly doesn't need a 15 min brief about us. A friend recently saw her speak in person and apparently she spoke at great length about who CAP is and what CAP is doing to support the Air Force.

I'm almost bummed we finally got on the SecAF's radar and now the person will change. Such as life with government!

The current SecAF is very engaged now with CAP.  (Secretary James spoke at the 75th Anniversary Gala dinner at Udvar-Hazy on Thursday the 1st.  Great remarks)

But how long did it take before the SecAF was "CAP conversant" or even knew there was a thing called "Civil Air Patrol?"  I'm not sure, but off the top of my head we've seen much more from the SecAF regarding CAP in, say, the last 2-3 years than I recall seeing beforehand.  I could be wrong.

Now, two things we have in our favor with an incoming administration:

1) CAP is thrust a little further to the fore these days with 1AF/NORTHCOM and the whole "Total Force" thing;
2) the potential new SecAF (if he's really to be the SecAF) already has *some* degree of familiarity with CAP

Again, like I said, its helpful to the organization that when someone says "Civil Air Patrol" it doesn't have to be explained at the Air Staff/Secretariat level.

[SarDragon]

It's appreciated. But jets? If anything, we'd be better off with rotary wing assets. It'd give NIN something else to do...

Pig can fly it, I'll fix it.

And ah kin hilp. Worked on H-34s and H-1s for three years.