This crossed my Facebook newsfeed today (redacted to remove the cadets' nametapes):



Politics aside... what the heck?

Quote from: raivo on September 14, 2012, 05:39:13 PM
Politics aside... what the heck?

That's a good question.

From the set up, I HOPE what happened is that these two cadets were at an airshow doing crowd-no-touchie-the-jets-control. Then these two yahoos popped in to take a picture with the cadets/plane in the back, and THEN, either they, or someone else made that poster.


Either way, [mess]ty of them doing so with minors who may have not even known what's up.

+1 on USAFAUX2004's comment - irrelevant to CAP, which as an organization, doesn't care.

Quote from: Eclipse on September 14, 2012, 06:03:58 PM
+1 on USAFAUX2004's comment - irrelevant to CAP, which as an organization, doesn't care.

"You mean the two baby-faced soldiers in camo really aren't soldiers who may or may not be gay, anti-DADT, and real Patriots? Gasp!".

I'm sure even if they knew the cadets are not military, they figured MOST viewers of the shot will think them to be soldiers.

Rarely do people with agendas let trivial things like facts or circumstance get in the way of their arguments.

Its an SEIU ad?     HA.... OK..  Sorry, SEIU is Service Employees International Union.   They have nothing to do with the military or DADT.  I dont even know why they would do that?

Quote from: Flying Pig on September 14, 2012, 06:33:18 PM
Its an SEIU ad?     HA.... OK..  Sorry, SEIU is Service Employees International Union.   They have nothing to do with the military or DADT.  I dont even know why they would do that?

No, but they pour millions into electing pro-union candidates. After tracing the image back a little bit, I found a number of similar "Are we better?" images on the SEIU Facebook page. On that page several posters pointed out that the two people in uniform were CAP cadets and that the picture is misleading at best.

Oh yea.....very familiar with them!

Leave it out about unions, hm?  This isn't the place for it.  I come from a long line of Teamsters/UAW and I don't want to get into it over labour rights.

Whoever it is in the photo, it was devious of them to do that with two of our cadets.  Just a hypothesis...I wonder if those tee shirts' slogans were photoshopped in later...

Quote from: CyBorg on September 14, 2012, 11:09:03 PM
Leave it out about unions, hm?  This isn't the place for it.  I come from a long line of Teamsters/UAW and I don't want to get into it over labour rights.

Whoever it is in the photo, it was devious of them to do that with two of our cadets.  Just a hypothesis...I wonder if those tee shirts' slogans were photoshopped in later...

If you are going to call BS post a link to prove it.

Google search the image or conduct a image level error analysis

^ More than a little harsh. He said "I wonder", nothing more.

Quote from: EMT-83 on September 15, 2012, 01:57:47 AM
^ More than a little harsh. He said "I wonder", nothing more.

Which is all it was...speculation.

I really doubt that the cadets were duped.  Most likely they knew what the shirt logos were all about and chose to pose with the couple anyway.  If the cadets were duped or taken advantage of, well that doesn't speak very well of the cadets' knowledge of current events especially one that affects the military which most cadets seem to be pretty enthusiastic about. 

Average cadet doesn't pay attention to that. Average cadet hears "hey can I take my picture with you?" and says "sure". Average cadet sees shirt, thinks "hey, nice". Average cadet is used as pawn in a political/social agenda. QED.

I'm no Photoshop whiz or anything by any means, but all I can do is zoom in really close and the pixelation looks off around the lettering. Can anyone blow it up bigger and look at it?

Quote from: CyBorg on September 14, 2012, 11:09:03 PM
Leave it out about unions, hm?  This isn't the place for it.  I come from a long line of Teamsters/UAW and I don't want to get into it over labour rights.

Fair enough

Here's a few questions...

Can you refuse to take pictures with people in a professional way (non confrontational)? Is there a regulation stating what can and cannot be on the shirt? If there isn't, should CAP members refuse to take pictures with people based on political beliefs or the fact that they are representing CAP so they cannot be in politically fueled pictures?

I think it should be common sense to deny taking pictures with people who are wearing profane or politically charged items.

You can refuse having your photo taken. Just say "Sir/Ma'am, I don't want to be photographed."

Quote from: Extremepredjudice on September 15, 2012, 10:43:01 PM
You can refuse having your photo taken. Just say "Sir/Ma'am, I don't want to be photographed."

And if you are in a public place, the person with the camera can go right on taking your photo.