CAP aircraft markings

[PHall]

Should be the regular "star and bar" national insignia.

But that's just my opinion.

You mean a "roundel."  I think the CAP one is as good as it will get. I might assume that the usual roundel of the US MILITARY might insinuate that it was owned by the US GOVERNMENT/ARMED FORCES.  The CAP roundel shows exactally what were are, an Auxiliary of the Air Force that operates the world's largest fleet of Cessna Aircraft.

It should also be pointed out that the USAAF roundel was not in use by the Coastal Patrols of WWII.  They used a distinctive Civil Defense seal with the tri-prop until that was removed in favor of a white triangle in a blue circle.

It ceased being a roundel in 1942 when the bars were added. Roundels are, you know, round!

[SarDragon]

and the coast guard aux doesn't use the star and bar

They don't have airplanes.

Um... yeah they do.
Examples: P-3 Orion, C-130

When did the CG get P-3s? Pic? Linky?

The Coast Guard has these aircraft, the Auxiliary does not.  The Auxiliary flies member own aircraft.

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See bold text above and below.

I repeat, spelled out: When did the Coast Guard get P-3s? Pic? Linky?

I'm looking for information to supplement my knowledge of an airframe I had significant contact with in 21 years of AD, not a lesson on how to read. The OP on the original comment was corrected, and acknowledged his mistake. I addressed the comment as corrected.

[Al Sayre]

Dave, I think they had a couple of A models as VIP transport back in the mid-late '80's. I remember seeing one in USCG colors at NAS NORVA around 88-89.  They also had some E2's they were flying out of NAS NORVA and St. Augustine FL around that time.

[PHall]

Dave, I think they had a couple of A models as VIP transport back in the mid-late '80's. I remember seeing one in USCG colors at NAS NORVA around 88-89.  They also had some E2's they were flying out of NAS NORVA and St. Augustine FL around that time.

I remember those aircraft, they weren't P-3's, they were Gulfstream I's.

And those weren't E-2's, they were a pair of HC-130H's with the radar system from the E-2 grafted on.
Those C-130's now fly for Customs.

[Al Sayre]

Ummm nope.  I know the difference between a P3A and G1, I fixed P3's in Sigonella for 2 years.  I also know that the E-2's were E-2's.  I was the LPO for Workcenter 650 (CATIII-D/VAST) at AIMD Norfolk in 88 & 89 and had USCG personnel assigned to my workcenter specifically to fix the radar units they had on the E2's in the hangar across the street.

edit:  Link to article on USCG E2's (mods feel free to shrink the link): http://books.google.com/books?id=lUN__e4yC_IC&pg=PA99&lpg=PA99&dq=P3A+Orion+USCG&source=web&ots=rrWEuTXN1n&sig=SQ0AUPEaoW4OeSy072BgB8yy-Zs&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

[Major Carrales]

Should be the regular "star and bar" national insignia.

But that's just my opinion.

You mean a "roundel."  I think the CAP one is as good as it will get. I might assume that the usual roundel of the US MILITARY might insinuate that it was owned by the US GOVERNMENT/ARMED FORCES.  The CAP roundel shows exactally what were are, an Auxiliary of the Air Force that operates the world's largest fleet of Cessna Aircraft.

It should also be pointed out that the USAAF roundel was not in use by the Coastal Patrols of WWII.  They used a distinctive Civil Defense seal with the tri-prop until that was removed in favor of a white triangle in a blue circle.

It ceased being a roundel in 1942 when the bars were added. Roundels are, you know, round!

I am partly assuming that was a joke of sorts, however, if not...

The term "Roundel" has come to mean a military marking identifying the national military on an aircraft...


From Wikipedia...

"A roundel in heraldry is any circular shape; in military use it is an emblem of nationality employed on military aircraft and air force flags, generally round and consisting of concentric rings of different colors."

You can read up on the history of the US roundel here...
http://cocardes.monde.online.fr/v2html/en/pays/etats_unis.html

Which also includes the Civil Air Patrol roundel...

From the site Roundels of the World, please visit it and see for yourself...



Examen some others here...
http://cocardes.monde.online.fr/v2html/en/accueil.html

http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-badges/rondels.htm

http://home.comcast.net/~r2russ/midway/roundels.html

While I greatly respect your years of service, I have to point out that your are wrong this occasion.

[BillB]

Carrales is now the Roundel police

[Major Carrales]

Carrales is now the Roundel police

(a la Dragnet...)
This is the Forum...CAPTALK, USA.  It was Tuesday and balmy in South Texas.  My partner's BillB working out of ROUNDEL Division.  We got a call that someone was disrepecting the US Roundel.  I'm a Roundel Police officer...just the facts, please!!!

[PHall]

Carrales is now the Roundel police

(a la Dragnet...)
This is the Forum...CAPTALK, USA.  It was Tuesday and balmy in South Texas.  My partner's BillB working out of ROUNDEL Division.  We got a call that someone was disrepecting the US Roundel.  I'm a Roundel Police officer...just the facts, please!!!

Carrales, next time you're in Los Angeles you might as well turn yourself in, it's against the law to make fun of Jack Webb in the City of Los Angeles.

[stratoflyer]

Oh no. Someone just referenced wikipedia!!

[Major Carrales]

Carrales is now the Roundel police

(a la Dragnet...)
This is the Forum...CAPTALK, USA.  It was Tuesday and balmy in South Texas.  My partner's BillB working out of ROUNDEL Division.  We got a call that someone was disrepecting the US Roundel.  I'm a Roundel Police officer...just the facts, please!!!

Carrales, next time you're in Los Angeles you might as well turn yourself in, it's against the law to make fun of Jack Webb in the City of Los Angeles.

Who's making fun?  I considered it an homage.  Jack Webb is of cult status in our home.  Joe Friday, the original...no Disrespect to Ed O'Niel, he had big shoes to fill...is a cultural icon.  Have a great day!!!

[Major Carrales]

Oh no. Someone just referenced wikipedia!!

You will not that I provided supporting evidence.  Wikipedia is a "start" not an "end," for references.