A topic that must be discussed with cadets...

Started by Stonewall, November 16, 2012, 06:47:09 PM

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Stonewall

As goofy as these movies are, I guarantee every real cadet from the 80s, and likely the early 90s, can quote most every scene from Red Dawn 1984.

Red Dawn 1984

Will cadets of the 2010s consider Red Dawn 2012 as iconic as we did back in the day?  If not, what movie will today's cadets still be quoting 28 years from now?

Red Dawn 2012
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Майор Хаткевич

Red Dawn '12 sold out.

Unreal enemy. A Marine as the leader. Where's the romance of high school spec ops experts?

coudano

I don't think red dawn 2012 is going to go over the way people think it will...

Garibaldi

Quote from: coudano on November 16, 2012, 07:03:07 PM
I don't think red dawn 2012 is going to go over the way people think it will...

Why...God, why? Why do You let people remake classic movies like Red Dawn? There was nothing wrong with the original! North Koreans invade the US? Please. At least the Cuban/Russian invasion made some sort of sense.  :'(

If they remake Apocalypse Now, we're all doomed.
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Cool Mace

Quote from: Garibaldi on November 16, 2012, 07:19:49 PM
Quote from: coudano on November 16, 2012, 07:03:07 PM
I don't think red dawn 2012 is going to go over the way people think it will...

Why...God, why? Why do You let people remake classic movies like Red Dawn? There was nothing wrong with the original! North Koreans invade the US? Please. At least the Cuban/Russian invasion made some sort of sense.  :'(

If they remake Apocalypse Now, we're all doomed.

Creativity has run it's course in Hollywood. Remakes are a joke.
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manfredvonrichthofen

They made game based on red dawn called Just Cause, I think if did more credit to Red Dawn than this year's remake will do.

LGM30GMCC

I would say the game 'Homeland' is closer to this version of Red Dawn.  8) (Yes, I'm an SM and a gamer. We do exist.)

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: LGM30GMCC on November 16, 2012, 07:33:02 PM
I would say the game 'Homeland' is closer to this version of Red Dawn.  8) (Yes, I'm an SM and a gamer. We do exist.)


+1.

Edit: The reason, of course is that the NES generation is now adults, but they grew up playing.

Garibaldi

Quote from: usafaux2004 on November 16, 2012, 07:39:49 PM
Quote from: LGM30GMCC on November 16, 2012, 07:33:02 PM
I would say the game 'Homeland' is closer to this version of Red Dawn.  8) (Yes, I'm an SM and a gamer. We do exist.)


+1.

Edit: The reason, of course is that the NES generation is now adults, but they grew up playing.

NES? Try Atari, Colecovision, Commodore 64...
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Майор Хаткевич

Those are part of the failed gaming era. NES is credited with saving the home gaming industry .

Btw, I have a collecovision that works at home. Thinking of selling it.

a2capt

I've got a boxed Adam system with disk drive, too. :) But it's just a glorified Colecovision. So I play the high speed casette games on an emulator, and leave the Adam in the box.

Might be interested in another Colecovision..

Stonewall

Really?  We started with badass Red Dawn and now we're talking geeky video games?

I've never owned a single video game, no Atari and no PSP thing.  Before CAP, and after watching Red Dawn, I went back to my room and re-packed my canvas, external framed, Boy Scout pack and added some more beanie weanies.  I had to make sure I was ready for WWIII.  It was the Cold War after all.

This...



Or this...

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Eclipse

Quote from: Stonewall on November 16, 2012, 08:58:58 PM
Really?  We started with badass Red Dawn and now we're talking geeky video games?

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Quote from: Stonewall on November 16, 2012, 08:58:58 PM
Really?  We started with badass Red Dawn and now we're talking geeky video games?

I've never owned a single video game, no Atari and no PSP thing.  Before CAP, and after watching Red Dawn, I went back to my room and re-packed my canvas, external framed, Boy Scout pack and added some more beanie weanies.  I had to make sure I was ready for WWIII.  It was the Cold War after all.

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754837

I liked the movie Taps & could  identify with the cadets (well... up to the point that Tom Cruise opens fire on the National Guard).

coudano

apparently muzzle discipline has improved somewhat in american insurgent youth in the past 28 years :)

Garibaldi

Quote from: 754837 on November 16, 2012, 09:42:04 PM
I liked the movie Taps & could  identify with the cadets (well... up to the point that Tom Cruise opens fire on the National Guard).

Yeah, that one too. At the time that movie came out, we were losing our meeting space so we sympathized some. We just didn't have an armory to pull from.
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manfredvonrichthofen

Quote from: LGM30GMCC on November 16, 2012, 07:33:02 PM
I would say the game 'Homeland' is closer to this version of Red Dawn.  8) (Yes, I'm an SM and a gamer. We do exist.)
Thank you, I had the wrong game title in my head... Don't know how I got those mixed up... That was the sickest game opening I have ever seen though.

However I tend to make comments about arrows to the knee a little more honest...Yes, I too small senior member gamer.

68w20

Quote from: Cool Mace on November 16, 2012, 07:26:03 PM
Quote from: Garibaldi on November 16, 2012, 07:19:49 PM
Quote from: coudano on November 16, 2012, 07:03:07 PM
I don't think red dawn 2012 is going to go over the way people think it will...

Why...God, why? Why do You let people remake classic movies like Red Dawn? There was nothing wrong with the original! North Koreans invade the US? Please. At least the Cuban/Russian invasion made some sort of sense.  :'(

If they remake Apocalypse Now, we're all doomed.

Creativity has run it's course in Hollywood. Remakes are a joke.

I always hate this argument.  I understand the basis for it, but it's just not logical.  How can one argue that adaptations/remakes are signs of creative bankruptcy when so many classics have fallen into that category:

Or this remake, which has been remade countless times on literally millions of stages:

Or this adaptation, the one that literally defined the film noir genre:

Or these two, both of which had been adapted from their respective books in multiple films:


Lastly, I find it particularly interesting that you mention this one:

which is itself an adaptation of Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness

These are all widely accepted as classic cinema; or, in the case of Henry V, screen adaptations of classic plays.  Each and every one of them is either an adaptation or a remake of a previous film.  Yet, somehow, they still have merit on their own.  [sits back to watch the flame war while playing some Skyrim]

The CyBorg is destroyed

And on top of it, the "new" Red Dawn has the North Koreans as aggressors?

The North Korean Air Force could be decimated by two or three states' Air National Guard fighter units.  The most "modern" birds they have are very early MiG-29's, kept to defend Pyongyang safe (and whatever Kim happens to be running it).

The North Korean Navy is a bunch of old Soviet and Chinese rustbuckets that wouldn't even get past Hawaii before being taken out by USN and USCG units in that state.

The North Korean Army...yes, they've got a lot of them, but you have to have a way to get them here, and some old clapped out Antonovs with no or outdated fighter escort?  They wouldn't get past USAF units stationed in Japan, not to mention JASDF F-15's.

I learnt some interesting survival techniques from the original...like what to do if your radiator's low on fluid. 8)
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