CAP helping bust up keg parties?

[JayT]

You just can't tell what kind of hell will break loose out in the middle of the dessert with a bunch of high school graduates and beer.. Thank God no one thought of this back in 65..  I wonder how many CAP cadets were in the groups on the ground partying??  "Honest Officer, I'm undercover for our eyes in the sky."  This is a much better use of our time than stopping illegals from entering the country..  Carry on men, be sure and give all of those graduating kids police records so they can't ever get ahead in life..  Why should they party down on the first really big accomplishment they have ever done.  Hurray for the death of common sense and welcome to the police state.. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of.. Let's alert the CAP we have underage drinkers on the loose again..

You do realize that underage drinkers have a much greater risk of being alcoholics. They are breaking the law no matter how you want to look at it. If they get a record out of this it's their own fault for being stupid. It's quite possible to have a party and stay sober.

Because everyone should have to live with the mistakes they made when they were sixteen.

Don't have any skeleton's in your closet?

[davidsinn]

You just can't tell what kind of hell will break loose out in the middle of the dessert with a bunch of high school graduates and beer.. Thank God no one thought of this back in 65..  I wonder how many CAP cadets were in the groups on the ground partying??  "Honest Officer, I'm undercover for our eyes in the sky."  This is a much better use of our time than stopping illegals from entering the country..  Carry on men, be sure and give all of those graduating kids police records so they can't ever get ahead in life..  Why should they party down on the first really big accomplishment they have ever done.  Hurray for the death of common sense and welcome to the police state.. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of.. Let's alert the CAP we have underage drinkers on the loose again..

You do realize that underage drinkers have a much greater risk of being alcoholics. They are breaking the law no matter how you want to look at it. If they get a record out of this it's their own fault for being stupid. It's quite possible to have a party and stay sober.

Because everyone should have to live with the mistakes they made when they were sixteen.

Don't have any skeleton's in your closet?

I have plenty of skeletons in my closet but other than a little speeding here with no tickets(couple of written warnings though) none of them are illegal. Drinking alcohol under age is not a mistake, it's a conscience choice. These are graduation parties so they are nearly all 18 year old adults so yes, they should have to live with the consequences of their actions.

[Short Field]

You do realize that underage drinkers have a much greater risk of being alcoholics.

And just being plain DEAD from alcohol poisoning or car wrecks.

[Short Field]

Why should they party down on the first really big accomplishment they have ever done.  Hurray for the death of common sense and welcome to the police state.. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of.. Let's alert the CAP we have underage drinkers on the loose again..

Sorry, but underage drinking is NOT something I can support.   Why are you so vehement in supporting it?  Just one of the laws you feel should broken?

[WheelsUp]

There's no doubt that what these young people were doing was against the law, and that the scariest issue is them getting behind the wheel afterward (among other things).

I started this thread to see what folks had to say on active CAP involvement in local Law Enforcement, not parsing the right/wrong of the suspects of these particular crimes.

[Short Field]

Maybe you didn't see downtown Washington D.C., after Obama was sworn in??  Trashed the whole place..

I lived in DC for three years.  After EVERY major event, the mall area was trashed.  DC knows how to handle it - they just clean it up.   

[Short Field]

I started this thread to see what folks had to say on active CAP involvement in local Law Enforcement, not parsing the right/wrong of the suspects of these particular crimes.

This is conducting recon for LE.  Not much different than any other missions we conduct in support of LE.  It is more of a neighborhood watch in the sky than anything else.

[JC004]

Maybe you didn't see downtown Washington D.C., after Obama was sworn in??  Trashed the whole place..

I lived in DC for three years.  After EVERY major event, the mall area was trashed.  DC knows how to handle it - they just clean it up.   

HAHA.  Yeah I was there at the time.  After it was over, the workers went about their normal duties with the cleanup and down came the platform and everything else - overnight.  Same thing with the 4th of July and all...

[SarDragon]

Hence, my point that the remote forested areas do not have that level of support, and the trash accumulates until the "users" decide there's too much, and move somewhere else to repeat the process.

[Earhart1971]

Can somebody please design the "Keg Party FIND RIBBON"? Keg devices for additional finds, LOL!

[Short Field]

Watched a 19 year old get sentenced today to two consecutive 12 year prison terms for killing two people in a car accident while DWI.  Maybe a citation or two for underage drinking a few years ago might have prevented this.   

[SarDragon]

Can somebody please design the "Keg Party FIND RIBBON"? Keg devices for additional finds, LOL!

You asked for it!

[Earhart1971]

Can somebody please design the "Keg Party FIND RIBBON"? Keg devices for additional finds, LOL!

You asked for it!

Great Job! The Ribbon of course the Color of Beer!

[tsrup]

Does anyone see this article as a potential problem for Cadet Programs?

Whether it be a recruiting issue:
New cadets are less inclined to join because of CAP's active role in busting their peers.  (May not be true or right, but preception is everything)

Or potential backlash against current CAP cadets by their peers for their affiliation.  That could affect retention of our cadet members.

I'm all for the chance for new and diverse missions, but this sounds like a once annually event that will sandpaper away at one of the legs of our three legged charter.

[JayT]

Does anyone see this article as a potential problem for Cadet Programs?

Whether it be a recruiting issue:
New cadets are less inclined to join because of CAP's active role in busting their peers.  (May not be true or right, but preception is everything)

Or potential backlash against current CAP cadets by their peers for their affiliation.  That could affect retention of our cadet members.

I'm all for the chance for new and diverse missions, but this sounds like a once annually event that will sandpaper away at one of the legs of our three legged charter.

Honestly, I think that the CAP cadet corps is stonger then that, and CAP cadets in general aren't the type that are predisposed to do the whole kegger thing.

I don't think that I had more then a glass of beer or two until I was twenty one because of the positive influence of CAP.

[wuzafuzz]

Does anyone see this article as a potential problem for Cadet Programs?

Whether it be a recruiting issue:
New cadets are less inclined to join because of CAP's active role in busting their peers.  (May not be true or right, but preception is everything)

Or potential backlash against current CAP cadets by their peers for their affiliation.  That could affect retention of our cadet members.

I'm all for the chance for new and diverse missions, but this sounds like a once annually event that will sandpaper away at one of the legs of our three legged charter.

I see this as almost a complete non-issue.  None of that was a problem when I was involved in law enforcement explorers as a teenager, and I was present for far more direct enforcement than CAP could ever dream of.  We caught a few comments from time to time but nothing serious.  Of course YMMV depending on the kind of town you're in.

[Krapenhoeffer]

I personally think that Cadets can handle any potential heat coming from this. I mean, they already willingly cut their hair, in opposition to the fads of today. They willingly subject themselves to military discipline, and I personally think that the vast majority of Cadets would wear any potential heat as a badge of honor.

CAP Cadets, from my experience, pride themselves on being above others their age, and that should make any CAPper proud.

Go Cadets!  :clap: