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 91 
 on: Yesterday at 12:20:28 PM 
Started by Falling Hare - Last post by Brit_in_CAP
While I don't include you specifically in my original question, I do still wonder why some people would join a military-styled organization and then complain about the military aspects of it.  That, I may never understand.

Jack

Likewise. 

Was going to write more and decided to not write.

 92 
 on: Yesterday at 11:35:38 AM 
Started by darkmatter - Last post by darkmatter
Do other wings give out Squadron of the Year Awards that are not Unit Citations? A old unit I was in won it several times and had streamers. I was just curious as to how common a practice this is? I also wonder, do the few dual chartered squadrons fly both BSA and CAP streamers on the flag and guide on?

how common is the unit citation award it all depends. like everything that can be awarded the regs say one then then its left up to the person who sign off weather they agree with what the regs say based on personal interpenetration. My wing has not handed out a unit citation in the past 10 years. the region gave out a citation to all members for 9/11 but not for hurricane sandy. I tried to ask my squadron commander to put on in but I was told No he didint view "intemperate" the actions to be worth of a citation. now there are other wings were if you breath you get a citation.  as for the BSA and CAP units i would think they would just on two different flags a CAP flag for CAP awards and a BSA flag for BSA awards

 93 
 on: Yesterday at 10:50:03 AM 
Started by darkmatter - Last post by GroundHawg
Do other wings give out Squadron of the Year Awards that are not Unit Citations? A old unit I was in won it several times and had streamers. I was just curious as to how common a practice this is? I also wonder, do the few dual chartered squadrons fly both BSA and CAP streamers on the flag and guide on?

 94 
 on: Yesterday at 10:40:33 AM 
Started by Falling Hare - Last post by TheSkyHornet
While I don't include you specifically in my original question, I do still wonder why some people would join a military-styled organization and then complain about the military aspects of it.  That, I may never understand.

Maybe I'm wearing rose colored glasses, but I think the complaints only come in when the "military aspects" waste a volunteer's time, or even worse impact mission performance. Really the only "military aspects" we run into are uniforms and a mostly irrelevant grade structure (to bring this back around to the alleged need for a command chief), which can certainly irritate those who find other aspects of CAP more interesting.

What's of course important to remember is in the Venn diagram of people who were attracted by wearing military uniforms (without having to be in the military) and people who couldn't care less about uniforms, there's still a large overlap between the two groups of other aspects that were also contributing factors on joining CAP. The two groups have more in common than not, but still get hung up on the differences.

People see what they want to see when it comes to recruiting. The folks that dig wearing military uniforms see a wonderful opportunity, people who don't dig military uniforms see people wearing polo shirts. Really it's win-win, yet the argument rages on.

I agree with the bulk of this post.

I do, however, want to extend a thought that the role of the NCO, particularly the senior-most in the organization, does bring in some military bearing with it, particularly considering that military service is a pre-requisite.

So there is a time and place for "military-isms" in CAP. It's not every aspect, but there is an appropriate moment here and there. I think the key is in reinforcing corps values (yes, corps), unity, and mission. That bearing can help with this.

 95 
 on: Yesterday at 10:38:00 AM 
Started by Cicero - Last post by Cicero
There is a formal request in process at the moment to award them the Florida Cross Medal as well. Both are more than earned.
Indeed. May they rest in eternal peace.

 96 
 on: Yesterday at 10:37:24 AM 
Started by Cicero - Last post by Cicero
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 97 
 on: Yesterday at 10:35:48 AM 
Started by BraveRifles19D - Last post by TheSkyHornet
I see this as both a plus and a minus. Good if weather is a problem in your area and bad if you can't use the incentive of having a test for each achievement. Are we going to have cadets showing up only once every 6 months for a PT test?

I printed out the new Cadet Physical Fitness Training Data Input Worksheet for the first time a few days ago. Whoever designed the form doesn't seem to know that HFZ is required for the Wright Brothers Achievement.
If that is all they are showing up for.....then no they are not going to get promoted.  Active Participation in regular activities is still required for advancement.
I had a cadet who thought if they just showed up once a month (on testing night) then I would just rubber stamp their promotion to C/CMSgt.     When instead I gave him a F50 spelling out why I was not going to promote him and what he needed to do to get promoted.  He quit (After his mother complained to the IG and he told her the complaint had no merit).

And this is a prime example of what I expect to see from seniors who work with cadets. Kudos

 98 
 on: Yesterday at 10:33:57 AM 
Started by JK657 - Last post by TheSkyHornet
I have predominately found that those who want to wear the corporate uniform full-time either can't meet the fitness standards or refuse to get a haircut. I have found that those who want everyone to wear the Air Force-style want to "play military" and get attention.

Put the uniform on. Shut up. And just do your jobs. If there is a standard to meet for a certain uniform, meet that standard. If you don't, wear the alternative uniform.

I fully agree that cadets should be in a common, military-style uniform to reinforce uniformity and discipline as part of their training curriculum. It's a training tool, nothing more. If we want to redesign our own uniform, whatever; go for it. Until then, this is what we use.

How many times does has this conversation happened in the last few decades? And the result...?

 99 
 on: Yesterday at 10:21:23 AM 
Started by Cicero - Last post by GroundHawg
There is a formal request in process at the moment to award them the Florida Cross Medal as well. Both are more than earned.

 100 
 on: Yesterday at 08:59:37 AM 
Started by JK657 - Last post by foo
Heck, I wonder why the Air Force wears camouflage uniforms in the first place. They're not needed by the vast majority of AF members.
Yes the camo uniforms are needed if you get deployed to a "war zone", but you'll get those when you go through the Deployment processing line anyway.
The Blue BDU's would work just fine. >:D

FTFY   :)

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