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Title: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: jabbr on August 18, 2017, 10:55:38 AM
Hello again. I'm beginning to get a grasp on the cadets' training. However, senior training is still a little vague. Has anyone here done it? I've seen that there are different levels that must be done in sequence. However, still having trouble understanding what each level entails. One website was saying there are several Airforce classes one can take. I'm not sure if that is part of cap progression or can simply be done independently. Thank you
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: kwe1009 on August 18, 2017, 12:04:42 PM
The easiest thing would be for you to talk with your unit Professional Development Officer.  In a perfect world they would have come to you shortly after you joined.  Just go and talk with them and they will guide you through the process.
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: jabbr on August 18, 2017, 12:16:53 PM
Thank you. I visited my first squadron this week and asked what jobs/needs they have.  PDO was one of them.  If I join, will probably ask to take that role since it's of interest.  The kids and I will check out one more CAP squadron next week before making a decision.
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: kwe1009 on August 18, 2017, 12:18:03 PM
Check out https://www.capmembers.com/cap_university/ (https://www.capmembers.com/cap_university/)
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: jabbr on August 18, 2017, 12:30:42 PM
Thank you
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: jabbr on August 18, 2017, 01:23:34 PM
Wow, the CAP University page has a lot of info.  As a senior member, I'm not sure what the options are.  I'll start asking the local squadrons what they know.  Most of the adults I met were there to simply support their kids - not actually take a position/train.
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: Capt Thompson on August 18, 2017, 01:41:35 PM
Once you're in, you'll start with level one training, opsec, Cadet Protection, EO, etc. During that time, you will have a convo with your PDO or CC and discuss options for a specialty track, and they will steer you in the right direction from there.

Some Seniors are just there to support their kids, and some stay long after the kids move on, and continue to be very productive members of the Squadron. Both paths are fine, and either way, we're just glad you're here to support. There are many different aspects to the Civil Air Patrol, and there's something for everyone, so hopefully you decide to be more than just a parent that sits in the back, dig in, find something you enjoy, and have a great time serving your community, State and Nation for many years to come!
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: jabbr on August 18, 2017, 02:07:59 PM
Thank you sir on both responses :)
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: Toad1168 on August 18, 2017, 04:22:54 PM
Let me add this, you're going to get what you put into CAP.  Find your niche, take advantage of the training that's available, and determine your own path.  It's easy to get bogged down in the red tape and become frustrated.  Don't let too much get to you.  YOU can make a difference and a positive impact.  The rewards will come in the personal satisfaction of what you accomplish.
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: jabbr on August 18, 2017, 04:37:38 PM
Thank you

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Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: GaryVC on August 18, 2017, 09:07:47 PM
Look at CAPR 50-17, in particular the chart almost at the end. It summarizes the requirements. You can access it through this page:
https://www.capmembers.com/forms_publications__regulations/indexes-regulations-and-manuals-1700/
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: Shawn W. on August 18, 2017, 11:27:18 PM
When I turned over from Cadet to Senior, the first thing my Squadron CC did was to slot me into Professional Development. At the time, I wasn't sure that was for me, but over time I realized that putting me into that spot did two important things for me: 1. It gave me separation from Cadets which is important when making the transition from Cadet to Senior. 2. It immersed me into the Senior Member program and forced me to dig into the regs on a regular basis. So basically I got a crash course. I spent 10 years as the Squadron PDO. If you really want to learn about CAP, my personal opinion is to do some PDO work for a while. I know I definitely benefited from it.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: Pylon on August 19, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
Reading this got me thinking: Maybe CAP legitimately needs a user-friendly SM PD flow chart of all the options at each level and what's required (or what is "choose your own adventure") and what's optional to get to the next level and/or grade.
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: PHall on August 19, 2017, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Pylon on August 19, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
Reading this got me thinking: Maybe CAP legitimately needs a user-friendly SM PD flow chart of all the options at each level and what's required (or what is "choose your own adventure") and what's optional to get to the next level and/or grade.

You mean like a Super Chart for Seniors? >:D
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: THRAWN on August 19, 2017, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: PHall on August 19, 2017, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Pylon on August 19, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
Reading this got me thinking: Maybe CAP legitimately needs a user-friendly SM PD flow chart of all the options at each level and what's required (or what is "choose your own adventure") and what's optional to get to the next level and/or grade.

You mean like a Super Chart for Seniors? >:D

Doesn't the chart in the reg do this?
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: PHall on August 19, 2017, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on August 19, 2017, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: PHall on August 19, 2017, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Pylon on August 19, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
Reading this got me thinking: Maybe CAP legitimately needs a user-friendly SM PD flow chart of all the options at each level and what's required (or what is "choose your own adventure") and what's optional to get to the next level and/or grade.

You mean like a Super Chart for Seniors? >:D

Doesn't the chart in the reg do this?

You actually expect people to look in and read the reg? :o
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: THRAWN on August 19, 2017, 07:43:46 PM
Quote from: PHall on August 19, 2017, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on August 19, 2017, 04:57:14 PM
Quote from: PHall on August 19, 2017, 02:49:23 PM
Quote from: Pylon on August 19, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
Reading this got me thinking: Maybe CAP legitimately needs a user-friendly SM PD flow chart of all the options at each level and what's required (or what is "choose your own adventure") and what's optional to get to the next level and/or grade.

You mean like a Super Chart for Seniors? >:D

Doesn't the chart in the reg do this?

You actually expect people to look in and read the reg? :o

Yeah, guess you're right...
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: coudano on August 20, 2017, 03:40:14 AM
Quote from: jabbr on August 18, 2017, 10:55:38 AM
Hello again. I'm beginning to get a grasp on the cadets' training. However, senior training is still a little vague. Has anyone here done it? I've seen that there are different levels that must be done in sequence. However, still having trouble understanding what each level entails. One website was saying there are several Airforce classes one can take. I'm not sure if that is part of cap progression or can simply be done independently. Thank you

So first things first...

Just to the CAP Orientation Course.  That's Level 1.
Once you've got that checked out, then take a look at the paths available at that point.

Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: Toad1168 on August 21, 2017, 02:01:44 PM
And I can't stress the importance enough of taking the Training Leaders of Cadets course (TLC Basic).  Even if you won't be focused on cadets, it gives a great basic overview of the cadet program and will help you understand them and interact effectively.
Title: Re: Second post - grasp of senior training
Post by: jabbr on August 21, 2017, 02:34:32 PM
Thanks all - great answers