Okay! Been watching some videos on the Youtube and came across a Ranger who pointed me to Article 15 Clothing for some cool shirts... my question is- do we have a website for some esoteric CAP comedy T-shirts? I'm looking for some neat shirts that CAP Operators could wear in public that would be funny to other CAP Operators and maybe start some positive conversation. Yes, I could just go up and say "hello" to someone wearing a wing patch t-shirt, but I think it would be cool to start a convo or something with a laugh. And no- I am not saying lets do shirts so people say "oh look at that guy, he must serve". I just want to see whats out there.
ANYWAYS, any ideas or designs? Post 'em up, I am sure if they are not out there, maybe one of us (a few of us) could get something going. Something that is cadet/SM/parent appropriate and funny within the CAP community.
If it actually says CAP on it, and there's a link, better buy it.. because the C&D will surely follow ;-)
We don't need "funny" shirts.
Funny shirts as in morale shirts kinda deal. I mean, I've got squadron shirts and stuff, but something else... maybe I'm just exercising the fingers here for no good reason haha.
Quote from: a2capt on November 17, 2014, 01:16:11 AM
If it actually says CAP on it, and there's a link, better buy it.. because the C&D will surely follow ;-)
I'm imagining a command patch with "CEASE AND DESIST" and some royalty-free clip art of a fan instead of a propeller.
Had to fix it since i can't spell tonight.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8590/15622879170_e5f32b2800.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pNxkFG)
I give up on spelling. That was twice for me. Long day.
U.S Ranger Corps with a bar across it would be good, unless Fat Tony has a C&D also.
Quote from: MSG Mac on November 17, 2014, 02:10:44 AM
U.S Ranger Corps with a bar across it would be good, unless Fat Tony has a C&D also.
as in through it? like a no-smoking kinda deal?
Quote from: The0-1Guy on November 17, 2014, 02:12:07 AM
Quote from: MSG Mac on November 17, 2014, 02:10:44 AM
U.S Ranger Corps with a bar across it would be good, unless Fat Tony has a C&D also.
as in through it? like a no-smoking kinda deal?
Of course
Why destroy icons under which many people died and suffered lots of days and nights?
Civil Defense was still used through the 60's to denote a very serious part of our life!
There was a guy in Georgetown Texas back in the mid 1980's who purchased an ex-CAP 0-1 Birddog. The plane still had the CAP seal on the vertical fin. For whatever reason (maybe someone in CAP complained) he "modified" the seal by adding a decal over the center shield of the seal of an Armadillo on it's back drinking a Lone Star Beer. It was an attention getter. I can just imagine the C&D letters that would be flying in today's climate.
Quote from: Cliff_Chambliss on November 17, 2014, 02:12:38 PM
There was a guy in Georgetown Texas back in the mid 1980's who purchased an ex-CAP 0-1 Birddog. The plane still had the CAP seal on the vertical fin. For whatever reason (maybe someone in CAP complained) he "modified" the seal by adding a decal over the center shield of the seal of an Armadillo on it's back drinking a Lone Star Beer. It was an attention getter. I can just imagine the C&D letters that would be flying in today's climate.
More likely it was part of the contract that he would remove the CAP identification
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on November 17, 2014, 01:47:31 PM
Why destroy icons under which many people died and suffered lots of days and nights?
Civil Defense was still used through the 60's to denote a very serious part of our life!
I assure you no disrespect was intended to the men and women who devoted so much to the Civil Defense. "Parody has been a part of contemporary culture for centuries. Whether in literature, theater, film or art, rarely does a day go by when an example of a parody is not widely visible." (yourdictionary.com) I realize that some see parodies as ridicule while others see it as a form of flattery. My intention was to make light of the heavy handed use of C&D letters, not make a negative comment about the Civil Defense.
Without parody, things would be pretty boring.
...and just think about how many of those units, detachments, operations, used parody in their own icons, icons that provided positive moral, served as cohesion builders, etc.
Just like Complete All Paperwork, Complaints Are Persistent, and the multitude of others we throw around daily.
I am recalling a certain Strategic Air Command patch I acquired on active duty in the early 90's that was widely worn off station. THAT one is not suitable for this board!
There is the old standby. "Support Search and Rescue....and get lost"
Quote from: brent.teal on November 26, 2014, 04:14:58 AM
There is the old standby. "Support Search and Rescue....and get lost"
Which is OK until you are on an actual missing person search and their family sees it. Then you have a very pissed off Dad asking if you think your funny and an crying emotional wreck Mom asking why someone would wear something like that.
I have to ask, what the heck is a "CAP Operator?" We aren't ninjas delivering care packages to predators. We are CAP members. The things we do in service of others are cool in their own right. Attempting to label ourselves with tactikewl terminology smacks of amateur hour when we strive to be recognized as volunteer professionals.
Rant off.
Fun tee shirts and the like can have their place. Such things can also be detrimental to the CAP image or brand. Will your PAO and CC agree with the message you present? Will parents of cadets be impressed? Relatively few people know about CAP; we don't have a surplus of goodwill to offset "funny or die" moments.
Happy Thanksgiving!
All good points. I don't think I would condone anything "funny" with any CAP branding.
In that vain something less offensive...maybe.
Search and Rescue we save yours....picture of donkey.
Not originaly I heard of this somewhere.
Brent-
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In that vain vein FTFY something less offensive...maybe.
For years, the company that produces the ELT distress beacon finder uses that message as promotion.
Another name for donkey is Jackass, shortened to Ass.
The Little L-Per company logo is an helicopter picking up the Ass, with the phrase "We save yours" although they do not say exactly what, the donkey is positioned so you have no mistake what they are talking about.
See http://www.ltronics.com/index.htm (http://www.ltronics.com/index.htm)
In my view, that slogan is as bad and unprofessional as saying "Support search and rescue... GET LOST!"
Sure I like it in a funny way. But would I take it to a mission? I do not think so!
Since some in here think it is OK to use CD for Cease and Desist, and having other uses and meanings for CD and Support Search and Rescue... Get Lost, would you like another meaning for CD, as in...
CAP, Confused and Disoriented?
After all, that is how many in here appear to see CAP because they criticize the regulations, how the regulations are implemented, the changes in IT, and how they are implemented, the policies and how they are implemented, the uniforms and how they are arrived at, the Safety policies and how they have been implemented, etc... I can go on and on and on...
Things like the "CD" are in some circumstances good internal morale builders, however knowing what and when to keep things "internal" is where the problem comes in. Don't feel bad I see the same issues in the RM. Ie morale patches and unit shirts..... we all laugh and giggle during private time, but forget sometimes the humor isn't seen by those on the "outside".
MK
Quote from: wuzafuzz on November 27, 2014, 01:20:53 PM
Fun tee shirts and the like can have their place. Such things can also be detrimental to the CAP image or brand. Will your PAO and CC agree with the message you present? Will parents of cadets be impressed? Relatively few people know about CAP; we don't have a surplus of goodwill to offset "funny or die" moments.
+1 Why is this so hard to understand?
CAP members HAVE NO STEAM TO BLOW OFF. Stressed? GO HOME. No one gets stressed in a way that needs "reliving"
in the 2-hours a week most members are active in CAP.
And no, not even during NBB, HMRS, NESA, or the average encampment. Why? Because yo want to be there and can leave whenever you like.
Want stress? Talk to the PSC from Sandy. That's stress. And so few CAP members ever do anything on that level or scale that the number is statistically zero.
When missions, proficiency, and general success approach that of the military, you can start talking about being "wacky", until then,
spend the time just working the book, or not and move on.
Quote from: Eclipse on December 01, 2014, 02:57:44 AM
CAP members HAVE NO STEAM TO BLOW OFF. Stressed? GO HOME. No one gets stressed in a way that needs "reliving"
in the 2-hours a week most members are active in CAP.
Horse hockey!
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20011228X02465&ntsbno=LAX02FA049&akey=1 (http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20011228X02465&ntsbno=LAX02FA049&akey=1)
Relevant excerpt:
The airplane was found in an upright attitude. A ground fire consumed the inboard portions of both wings, the instrument panel, the entire passenger cabin, and the cockpit.
I was on the ground team on-site after the crash was located by an aircrew. You don't forget things like that. Ever.
Quote from: GroundHawg on November 27, 2014, 12:33:34 PM
Quote from: brent.teal on November 26, 2014, 04:14:58 AM
There is the old standby. "Support Search and Rescue....and get lost"
Which is OK until you are on an actual missing person search and their family sees it. Then you have a very pissed off Dad asking if you think your funny and an crying emotional wreck Mom asking why someone would wear something like that.
I'm not even a fan of the retro style "Goofy" emergency services patch. The WW2 era Disney-like cartoon characters were used on military patches, planes, etc. as a light hearted way to cope with the seriousness of an horrific war, and they were popular with that generation. I like the history of the Goofy ES patch, but I think it looks unprofessional on our uniforms today. Imagine the same scenario Groundhog described; a CAP member is interviewing the parents or spouse and has a four inch frowing cartoon dog on his chest. I cringed when it was reintroduced, and I still roll my eyes when I see them today.
Quote from: SarDragon on December 01, 2014, 03:28:08 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on December 01, 2014, 02:57:44 AM
CAP members HAVE NO STEAM TO BLOW OFF. Stressed? GO HOME. No one gets stressed in a way that needs "reliving"
in the 2-hours a week most members are active in CAP.
Horse hockey!
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20011228X02465&ntsbno=LAX02FA049&akey=1 (http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20011228X02465&ntsbno=LAX02FA049&akey=1)
Relevant excerpt:
The airplane was found in an upright attitude. A ground fire consumed the inboard portions of both wings, the instrument panel, the entire passenger cabin, and the cockpit.
I was on the ground team on-site after the crash was located by an aircrew. You don't forget things like that. Ever.
That's literally the exception that proves the rule. You've had some stress, I have, LordMonor, probably PHall, a handful of others here,
but as a whole? No. I'd put a Venti on the line that on the whole, maybe 5% (no way it's more then 10%) of the membership has
ever had days which justified needing to "de-stress".
And even with that, being "stressed"doesn't give you the cool points for wacky shirts, etc.
This kind of stuff is what costs CAP credibility it doesn't have, which is why it's generally in a credibility deficit when it
walks into the room. That occasionally it can get "back to zero" is beside the point.
I think it would be cool to have a Shirt with the L-Tronics logo on it.
Eclipse.....we can also take ourselves too seriously.....which we don't have the cool point for either.
So....in the immortal words of Sgt Hulka....."Relax Francis". :)
Quote from: Devil Doc on December 01, 2014, 03:49:41 PM
I think it would be cool to have a Shirt with the L-Tronics logo on it.
Go check out their web site, they used to sell that exact shirt, I have one!
Quote from: lordmonar on December 01, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
Eclipse.....we can also take ourselves too seriously.....which we don't have the cool point for either.
So....in the immortal words of Sgt Hulka....."Relax Francis". :)
The day CAP starts taking things seriously, let alone too seriously, I'll let you know.
Quote from: lordmonar on December 01, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
Eclipse.....we can also take ourselves too seriously.....which we don't have the cool point for either.
So....in the immortal words of Sgt Hulka....."Relax Francis". :)
+1 >:D >:D >:D >:D
The only real "stress" I've had in CAP was at encampment.
How'd we cope? After all the cadets were asleep, we'd be sitting in the Shark Tank, laughing like crazy about the most mundane things, or cracking terrible jokes.
Quote from: lordmonar on December 01, 2014, 03:57:28 PM
Eclipse.....we can also take ourselves too seriously.....which we don't have the cool point for either.
So....in the immortal words of Sgt Hulka....."Relax Francis". :)
If you're going to quote Sgt. Hulka, get it right - "Lighten up, Francis!" ;)