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Started by ♠SARKID♠, January 21, 2008, 07:25:27 PM

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afgeo4

Quote from: Ned on March 05, 2008, 05:20:29 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on March 05, 2008, 02:33:01 PM
I went to the commissary a few times and while the prices and stuff were nice, I found it really aggravating to shop there.  All the aisles were 1-WAY, it was full of old people who smelled like those FEMA trailers we have and since they only shop once a year they were all dragging around multiple carts.


Yeah, those darn old veterans can sure be annoying, can't they?  Worse, some of them are in wheelchairs or have assistance animals.  Shame on them for blocking your access.

Sigh.

Elderly folks -- and especially seniors with disabilities -- have access and mobility issues you and I cannot really imagine.  Age and disabilities limit their ability to enjoy the few privledges and benefits their years of service to our nation have earned them.


Perhaps if you offered to help them get out more often, they wouldn't need multiple carts.  Maybe if more CAP folks dropped by to visit and help them with basic tasks like cooking and cleaning, their personal sanitation and dignity could be improved.

Remember, you and I will be the elderly veterans someday.  I hope nobody is ashamed of me as I use the commissary.

Ned Lee
Retired Army Guy
And those people that asked for you to pay them to bag your groceries... probably dependents of military personnel who can't work off post because military bases are usually located in areas with little employment possibilities.
GEORGE LURYE

bosshawk

After the last 10 or so posts on this topic, I suspect that there are some folks who are in "duck and cover" mode.  Probably a good idea not to piss off a bunch of "old veterans" about the benefits that they EARNED in the military.

A word of advice: if you haven't walked the walk, it is probably better to not try to talk the talk.

Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777

Hawk200

Quote from: RiverAux on March 05, 2008, 11:17:46 PM
Never been to a commisary, and probably never will.  Thats not the point.  I'm not going to tip somebody who should be getting paid fully by their employer.  Unfortunately, we're seeing more and more places in our culture where tipping is expected and I don't like it.  Call me a grinch, but there it is. 

To be fair, there are a lot of places that expect tips, and there that tipping is not appropriate. It is appropriate to tip a waiter or waitress, a driver delivering food, barbers/stylists, even some of the places that make specialty coffees while you wait. There's a few others, I'm sure people know what they are.

I don't think that the sandwich maker at Subway, or a person that just sells you a bottle of water falls into that category. Most of them aren't working for a company claiming tip credit. Anyone at a place like that that asks you to, doesn't deserve it. A lot of places like that have employees putting up tip jars. It's not appropriate for them to do so. Just because it's expected, doesn't mean it's appropriate.

RiverAux

Why would you tip a barber?  They have a set price for a haircut.  If they think that is too low, then they should raise the price.  What is the difference between what they are doing and the mechanic fixing my car? 

Be aware that if you pay for your meal at a restaurant with a credit card that some restaurants are starting to take part of the tip that is charged to that credit card away from the server. 

Anyway, we're off topic.  Sorry.

afgeo4

Quote from: RiverAux on March 06, 2008, 11:20:49 PM
Why would you tip a barber?  They have a set price for a haircut.  If they think that is too low, then they should raise the price.  What is the difference between what they are doing and the mechanic fixing my car? 

Be aware that if you pay for your meal at a restaurant with a credit card that some restaurants are starting to take part of the tip that is charged to that credit card away from the server. 

Anyway, we're off topic.  Sorry.
Because prices at barber shops are set by the owners, not the employees and because the standard practice is to to have a salary (per day) for the barber which includes some quota of haircuts. Anything the barber does after that quota is met gets split 50/50 or 60/40 (depending on agreement). Anyway, most money made by barbers and manicurists/facialists comes from tips, not wages.  I know this because my mother owns a salon.
GEORGE LURYE

mikeylikey

^ The AAFES policy for barbers and stylists working on posts/ bases is they get 4 bucks an hour, and everyone who worked that day splits the tips that go into a central till.  It is a fair system.  So I pay 5 bucks at the AAFES barber shop, or 2 bucks if I go to the O-Club (one of the benefits if you join, not to mention the 5 cent drinks between 5PM and 6PM each night).  Guess you can see why I like to get out of work at 430PM.....enough time to make it to the club to spend 50 cents on beer and 5 bucks for a cab home!  Woot!
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pixelwonk

theres a topic in here somewhere.

mikeylikey

^ Um ya ....

QuoteAre CAP IDs issued in a constant progression, or are they decommissioned as members leave/die and reissued to new people that come in?

I think it is constant progression.  Not sure about when the member leaves or dies.  However, had one member leave in 2004, come back last month and he has his same CAPID number.  So I would imagine once you receive a CAPID number, its yours for life.
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jb512

Quote from: mikeylikey on March 08, 2008, 09:14:58 AM
^ Um ya ....

QuoteAre CAP IDs issued in a constant progression, or are they decommissioned as members leave/die and reissued to new people that come in?

I think it is constant progression.  Not sure about when the member leaves or dies.  However, had one member leave in 2004, come back last month and he has his same CAPID number.  So I would imagine once you receive a CAPID number, its yours for life.

Yep.  Mine survived a 15 year break.

mikeylikey

^ there you go case solved, thread can be locked!
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SSgt Rudin

Quote from: jaybird512 on March 08, 2008, 10:45:14 AM
Quote from: mikeylikey on March 08, 2008, 09:14:58 AM
^ Um ya ....

QuoteAre CAP IDs issued in a constant progression, or are they decommissioned as members leave/die and reissued to new people that come in?

I think it is constant progression.  Not sure about when the member leaves or dies.  However, had one member leave in 2004, come back last month and he has his same CAPID number.  So I would imagine once you receive a CAPID number, its yours for life.

Yep.  Mine survived a 15 year break.


They didn't have CAPID's 15 years ago though.... 11 years ago when I joined your CAPID was your SSN, it was fun trying to convince the people at NHQ that the Admin officer messed up my social by accidentally replacing all the 7's with 3's  ???  ::) side note, if you have glasses, wear them. However (theoretically) we still have about 500,000 more members to join before we have to worry about it.
SSgt Jordan Rudin, CAP

ßτε

In 1998, they were still using SSN. I have my ID card still. I believe the transition was either in late 1998 or in 1999.

Tim Medeiros

My first CAPID was my SSAN, back in Aug 99, I believe it changed that Oct.  It should also be noted that employees also get a CAPID number, so its not just a membership number.
TIMOTHY R. MEDEIROS, Lt Col, CAP
Chair, National IT Functional User Group
1577/2811

jb512

Hmm.  I don't really remember what number was used when I was a cadet, I just assumed it was a capid.  I posted earlier that I was a cadet in 91 to 92 and my stuff was still in eservices when i re-joined last year.  I got a capid of 162xxx.  Most everyone else in my squadron has 300,000 and 400,000 numbers.

I just assumed, but now I'm not sure where the number came from.

SSgt Rudin

Quote from: jaybird512 on March 08, 2008, 07:22:31 PM
Hmm.  I don't really remember what number was used when I was a cadet, I just assumed it was a capid.  I posted earlier that I was a cadet in 91 to 92 and my stuff was still in eservices when i re-joined last year.  I got a capid of 162xxx.  Most everyone else in my squadron has 300,000 and 400,000 numbers.

I just assumed, but now I'm not sure where the number came from.

Well you defiantly received a lower number because you used to be a member, defiantly confused on how the numbers were assigned now though. doing the math based on my number if they assigned a CAPID to everyone who was ever a member from 1941-1997(when I joined) that would work out to about 4251 numbers per year; theoretically feasible.
SSgt Jordan Rudin, CAP

AlphaSigOU

Quote from: 2d Lt Rudin on March 08, 2008, 07:46:42 PM
Quote from: jaybird512 on March 08, 2008, 07:22:31 PM
Hmm.  I don't really remember what number was used when I was a cadet, I just assumed it was a capid.  I posted earlier that I was a cadet in 91 to 92 and my stuff was still in eservices when i re-joined last year.  I got a capid of 162xxx.  Most everyone else in my squadron has 300,000 and 400,000 numbers.

I just assumed, but now I'm not sure where the number came from.

Well you defiantly received a lower number because you used to be a member, defiantly confused on how the numbers were assigned now though. doing the math based on my number if they assigned a CAPID to everyone who was ever a member from 1941-1997(when I joined) that would work out to about 4251 numbers per year; theoretically feasible.

Not necessarily so... I was a cadink and s'member from 1977 until 1988 back in the day when the CAPID was the same as the SSAN. When I returned to CAP in 2005 my new CAPID was in the 400000 series; there's gotta be a point somewhere when NHQ CAP went fully electronic. I think it was the early to mid-1990s.

It's entirely possible that there may be a very low CAPID number correlated to my old CAPID, but I wouldn't be surprised that my previous CAP membership survived the transition.
Lt Col Charles E. (Chuck) Corway, CAP
Gill Robb Wilson Award (#2901 - 2011)
Amelia Earhart Award (#1257 - 1982) - C/Major (retired)
Billy Mitchell Award (#2375 - 1981)
Administrative/Personnel/Professional Development Officer
Nellis Composite Squadron (PCR-NV-069)
KJ6GHO - NAR 45040

jimmydeanno

I joined in 1997 and at the time it was my SSAN, about 2 years later it switched to the current system, I ended up with a 229 number.

Another member of my current squadron who rejoined after a break since the 1992 was able to get his "old CAPID" number which was in the 110 arena. 
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

BuckeyeDEJ

There's only two people in my unit with CAPIDs with a start digit of "1" -- mine starts 113 and the other, a 50-year member, starts with 101.

I joined in May 1984 as a cadet. I never really thought about my ID number until this thread, other than that it's curious that mine's only 1s and 3s... and that 13 is my baseball jersey number.

Four of my 50+ members have CAPIDs that start with a 2. The others? Mostly 4s.


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